Cadet’s autopsy stalled

By The Nation

 

 

THE CENTRAL Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS) has still been unable to match the DNA of a deceased cadet and preserved organs that were believed to have been removed from his body, reportedly because of a shortage of required chemicals.

“We have to confirm via DNA tests first as to whether these organs really belong to Pakhapong Tanyakan before we proceed to determine what caused his death,” CIFS director Somn Promaros said yesterday. 

 

Pakhapong, an 18-year-old first-year student at the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School (AFAPS), died on October 17 in what his family believes were suspicious circumstances. 

 

The family submitted his body to the CIFS on October 25, while the school has maintained that Pakhapong succumbed to a cardiac arrest. 

 

After the CIFS performed an autopsy and informed the family that some of Pakhapong’s organs were missing, the family made a public statement calling for a transparent investigation into his death. 

 

The military-owned Phramongkutklao Hospital then said some organs had been removed from the body as part of the autopsy at its facility. The hospital returned the preserved organs to the family, which submitted them to the CIFS for a detailed examination on November 23. 

 

“We are carefully checking the organs in line with professional standards,” Somn said. 

 

He said the DNA tests for the organs took time because they had already been exposed to the preservative formalin. 

 

“We need a special formalin-fixed paraffin-embedded solution,” he said. 

 

A source said the CIFS had run out of the solution and would need to wait for funds to buy it. 

 

Somn had not mentioned the issue when asked about Pakhapong’s case. 

 

“Please give us time. We will work to the fullest of our ability in preparing the autopsy report. After we finish, we will forward it to Pakhapong’s family as well as police,” he said. 

 

Several investigations are ongoing to determine if anyone should be held responsible for Pakhapong’s death. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30332915

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-12-01

Unbelievable. 

How to wiggle out of helping this family against golieth. 

No funds to buy the solution , well there must be no state funds for salaries either since they can't do their job. 

Disgusting, lying, vile swine. 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

THE CENTRAL Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS) has still been unable to match the DNA of a deceased cadet and preserved organs that were believed to have been removed from his body, reportedly because of a shortage of required chemicals.

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

A source said the CIFS had run out of the solution and would need to wait for funds to buy it.

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

“We are carefully checking the organs in line with professional standards,” Somn said

Someone needs to look up the definition of ‘professional’. But this does nicely epitomize a culture of ‘it’s not what’s real it’s what we say it is’. 

4 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

 

 

Someone needs to look up the definition of ‘professional’. But this does nicely epitomize a culture of ‘it’s not what’s real it’s what we say it is’. 

They need to wait for money to but the stuff? If I was the father of the victim, I would no longer be responsible for my actions. 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Several investigations are ongoing to determine if anyone should be held responsible for Pakhapong’s death.

They have already said the spleen and liver were ruptured. Could it be that a general's son is involved? Now they're saying that they have to make sure the organs belong to the cadet but they haven't got the proper chemicals or the funds to get them. What a crok. What's next. "It seems as though we've 'misplaced' the organs"? "We now have the chemicals but the organs have degraded to such an extent we can't be 100% positive on identification"? 

As I said in previous post "big broom, carpet and sweeping".

As past government officials in prison found out. You never know when you put pen to deception, if it will come back to bite you in the arse later. Finding a way to not say anything such as no money to purchase chemicals is a great cop out. 

Unfortunately, at this point the family can trust no one. Since the organs have been preserved, perhaps the family could claim them and send them to doctor G for a fair and impartial examination. 

Black clouds are gathering rapidly 

Not a good end coming for the family, of 

khun Pakapong,

More coverups to come.

1 hour ago, greenchair said:

Unbelievable. 

How to wiggle out of helping this family against golieth. 

No funds to buy the solution , well there must be no state funds for salaries either since they can't do their job. 

 

Sadly, it's all too believable!

2 hours ago, webfact said:

“We are carefully checking the organs in line with professional standards,” Somn said. 

 

He said the DNA tests for the organs took time because they had already been exposed to the preservative formalin. 

 

“We need a special formalin-fixed paraffin-embedded solution,” he said. 

 

A source said the CIFS had run out of the solution and would need to wait for funds to buy it. 

The first and final paragraphs would seem to contradict each other. 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

“Please give us time. We will work to the fullest of our ability

That’s what’s so worrying. 

 

Is it possible you could work to the ability of someone competent?

Edited December 1, 20178 yr by Bluespunk

"Please give us time"

 

Unbelievable.

 

"Well, we'd like to finish the aytopsy but we got the memo from on high, and anyway, we ran out of sharp knives."

 

Unbelievable. And lame.

Please give us time. 

Wasn't there a famous song about that a few years ago. 

How far can time be stretched?

__________________________and so on. 

"A source said the CIFS had run out of the solution and would need to wait for funds to buy it."

Sounds like fake news to me, just stretch it out and hope people forget,the powers that be

dont want the facts of this case to see the light of day,and its not the first time cadets have

died,and facts covered up.

 

regards worgeordie

3 hours ago, webfact said:

A source said the CIFS had run out of the solution and would need to wait for funds to buy it. 

Endless excuses abound.  Submarines are vitally needed, but keeping the military's  behavior in check and good forensics, not so much.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Several investigations are ongoing to determine if anyone should be held responsible for Pakhapong’s death. 

predictable outcomes: 'not conclusive'

The first in a long line of excuses, obfuscations and lies, until the public interest dies down and the problem (for them) is over.

from what I understand, the cleaning will take some additional technical solutions that one would expect are part of the stock in the major forensic lab in a 60+ million people country, or can be ordered from an international supplier within days for a few thousand dollars. (or borrowed from a University that no doubt is researching DNA technology.)

No surprises there then, 

2 hours ago, nikmar said:

 

Sadly, it's all too believable!

Just another cold case It will never be solved

33 minutes ago, JAG said:

The first in a long line of excuses, obfuscations and lies, until the public interest dies down and the problem (for them) is over.

Spot on The Thais have learnt "Time heals" Soon to be forgotten

There are witnesses to this crime. The silence is deafening.

2 minutes ago, 300sd said:

There are witnesses to this crime. The silence is deafening.

Didn't you hear. 

All involved were summoned to make sure there was clear understanding of army protocol. 

How can anyone believe the PROFESSIALISM of so-called state agencies when they come up with idiotic and illogical reasons for NOT doing a job they are supposedly expert at. EH ??????????????????????

32 minutes ago, KKr said:

from what I understand, the cleaning will take some additional technical solutions that one would expect are part of the stock in the major forensic lab in a 60+ million people country, or can be ordered from an international supplier within days for a few thousand dollars. (or borrowed from a University that no doubt is researching DNA technology.)

Exactly. The excuse is absolutely unacceptable. 

 

2 hours ago, Sid Celery said:

"Please give us time"

 

Unbelievable.

 

"Well, we'd like to finish the aytopsy but we got the memo from on high, and anyway, we ran out of sharp knives."

 

Unbelievable. And lame.

Not 'lame, just disgusting and disgraceful, but sadly typical 

1 minute ago, greenchair said:

Didn't you hear. 

All involved were summoned to make sure there was clear understanding of army protocol. 

Memory poor, thanks.

Although army protocol could be the problem.

The public has a right to know what happened to this fine cadet that wanted to serve his country. 

The public has a right to know if pointless punishment caused this  death. The public has a right to know what safety measures will be put in place for future cadets. 

We have sons that will be conscripted.