webfact Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Thailand's Fish Catch Seven Times Higher than Reported By MarEx Fish catches by Thailand’s distant-water fleet fishing throughout the Indo-Pacific are almost seven times higher than what the country reports to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, a new study by the Sea Around Us claims. For example, in 2014, the Asian country caught 3.7 million tons of fish outside its Exclusive Economic Zone but reported only 247,000 tons. This figure, although substantial, represents a decline from peak numbers reached in the mid-1990s when the more relaxed rules of Thailand’s neighbors allowed for massive catches of over seven million tons per year. Back then, as much as 80 percent of the catch was unreported and much of it likely obtained illegally, the study states. “Fishing by Thai vessels outside of Thailand’s waters takes place around the South China Sea, the Indonesian archipelago, the Bay of Bengal as well as the Western Indian Ocean, under both official and unofficial agreements, as well as illegally,” says Brittany Derrick, lead author of the study and a researcher with the Sea Around Us initiative at the University of British Columbia’s Institute for the Oceans and Fisheries. Full story: https://maritime-executive.com/article/thailands-fish-catch-seven-times-higher-than-reported -- THE MARITIME EXECUTIVE 2017-12-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 And that Gentlemen is how people of influence can afford 4,000,000 baht watches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Face Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Does this mean that the world can not trust Thailands' integrity. Please say it isn't so. I always trusted Thai to keep their word, to be honest and above reproach. Now I'm beginning to have doubts about the existence of Santa Claus. My world is crumbling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Shh...the eu might hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Like almost everything else in this country, almost all datas are fugded massaged and manipulated to suit/hide agendas and true profits or to keep the public clueless and avoid criticism and scrutiny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Even if everyone followed the agreed upon quotas, it is likely that we would still be over-fishing the oceans. However, it seems like we don't even limit ourselves to what we think is sustainable... Perhaps the Matrix was correct; we humans ARE a disease, a cancer on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I wonder how much over the domestic catch was? Anybody recall this guy yelling at Prayut because he wasn't allowed to fish more? --------------- "an unidentified man approached the prime minister with a petition for the government to amend fishing regulation allowing fishing boats to fish only 220 days in a year. He wanted the fishing period to be extended so fishermen will have more income to cope with their expenses." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) those no budget Asian tour groups love the free'' all you can eat seafood buffet''...why else do you think they come here..... Edited December 12, 2017 by mok199 speliing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bowman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Far from the ocean are fisherman here in rural Phitsanulok. They make massive nets by hand and keep everything they catch. Everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ezzra said: Like almost everything else in this country, almost all datas are fugded massaged and manipulated to suit/hide agendas and true profits or to keep the public clueless and avoid criticism and scrutiny.... Exactly every figure ever stated is either massaged up or down in order to appear better...That 'our' western governments AND embassies ignore this particular fudge and many more in order to keep thier own personal gravy trains running is despicable and they also should be held accountable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: Back then, as much as 80 percent of the catch was unreported and much of it likely obtained illegally, the study states. How sad. Thailand pollutes the waters then over fishes them. Complete disrespect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 These figures are achieved because Thai police concentrate on the little fish whilst allowing the big ones to go free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Presumably much of this unreported catch is poached from within territorial waters of neighbouring countries. I recall reading some little time ago about how the Chinese had apprehended Thai fishermen working within their waters. It seems to be accepted that poaching goes on by all these Asian countries. The international law decrees that in such instances it is appropriate to confiscated the catch and gear and send them on their way. A few years back the Royal Thai Navy apprehended a Vietnamese fishing boat working in their waters. So under the military junta rule what did the brave trigger happy men of the RTN do? They confiscated the catch and gear but only after they gunned down the unarmed crew killing one and injuring others. They also rammed and sank two vessels. Shows how little respect Thailand has for international fishing laws. http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/vietnam-demands-probe-after-thai-navy-attacks-its-fishermen-at-sea-64049.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconutman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I wonder how much is wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If you are going to lie, lie big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Cadbury said: Presumably much of this unreported catch is poached from within territorial waters of neighbouring countries. I recall reading some little time ago about how the Chinese had apprehended Thai fishermen working within their waters. It seems to be accepted that poaching goes on by all these Asian countries. The international law decrees that in such instances it is appropriate to confiscated the catch and gear and send them on their way. A few years back the Royal Thai Navy apprehended a Vietnamese fishing boat working in their waters. So under the military junta rule what did the brave trigger happy men of the RTN do? They confiscated the catch and gear but only after they gunned down the unarmed crew killing one and injuring others. They also rammed and sank two vessels. Shows how little respect Thailand has for international fishing laws. http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/vietnam-demands-probe-after-thai-navy-attacks-its-fishermen-at-sea-64049.html As the Chinese claim the whole South China sea part or there territorial waters I don't particularly care what they have to say. Besides all of the SEA countries are the same when it comes to accurate reporting. I would have guessed halving their true catch amounts but I see from this and the skim of park entrance fees I am far off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Then you still got people here on Thaivisa defending the Thai fishermen and getting angry with the PM who tries to take a tough stance. The reality is that fishermen will never be thinking of anything but their income not sustainability. They need to be controlled and a lot better than what is done currently. The PM has implemented many good measures enough to have the EU agree that progress has been made, that is already far more then others before him have done. Still its not enough and more should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On the good-news front, many of these fish come already-wrapped, in discarded Thai plastic-bags ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 hours ago, ezzra said: Like almost everything else in this country, almost all datas are fugded massaged and manipulated to suit/hide agendas and true profits or to keep the public clueless and avoid criticism and scrutiny.... As it is the case in nearly all countries of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Which means they are overfishing and then some. Hey, I know!!! Let's arrest some farangs on jetskis and charge them with disturbing ecologically delicate area in National Parks. Hey, hey, don't look at the over fishing, look over here at the bad farangs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, connda said: Which means they are overfishing and then some. Hey, I know!!! Let's arrest some farangs on jetskis and charge them with disturbing ecologically delicate area in National Parks. Hey, hey, don't look at the over fishing, look over here at the bad farangs!!! Don't forget the disgusting evil crime of feeding breadcrumbs to a fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Always thought there was something fishy about their catch quotas being reported new rules to be put in plaice and enforced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchega Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Way way higher than reported. numerous fisher types report only to buddha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, jaywalker said: I wonder how much over the domestic catch was? Anybody recall this guy yelling at Prayut because he wasn't allowed to fish more? --------------- "an unidentified man approached the prime minister with a petition for the government to amend fishing regulation allowing fishing boats to fish only 220 days in a year. He wanted the fishing period to be extended so fishermen will have more income to cope with their expenses." The small fishermen are strangled to death with laws and rules, while the big companies are allowed to over fish and employ slave labor. Edited December 13, 2017 by SOUTHERNSTAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, shackleton said: new rules to be put in plaice and enforced Lol.... you no unnerstan! new rules to be put in place and unenforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 8 hours ago, kaorop said: That 'our' western governments AND embassies ignore this particular fudge and many more in order to keep thier own personal gravy trains running is despicable and they also should be held accountable.. Mmmm.... and yet international pressure is forcing many strict measure to be imposed on the fishing fleet, including independent monitors on board fishing boats avoidance of these international recommendations, as agreed to be adopted by Thailand, to maintain international market share, is something that the Thai government needs to action (or suffer sanctions) so.... maybe not so despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDinosaw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 14 hours ago, ezzra said: Like almost everything else in this country, almost all datas are fugded massaged and manipulated to suit/hide agendas and true profits or to keep the public clueless and avoid criticism and scrutiny.... all data are fudged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 13 hours ago, yellowboat said: How sad. Thailand pollutes the waters then over fishes them. Complete disrespect. No different to the land.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ricardo said: On the good-news front, many of these fish come already-wrapped, in discarded Thai plastic-bags ! Quoted cause thats gold Ricardo GOLD..???? Edited December 13, 2017 by kaorop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 hours ago, Coconutman said: I wonder how much is wasted. In S E A not much. In responsible Western countries which adhere to regulations ( ahem ) over 50 % ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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