O visa help

[britpop]

Hi, normally i had a retirement visa, left 3 years ago, accident in uk, so back now, come in on a single tourist, done extension for 1 month, that was because in uk O visa cost £100's with, criminal record, medical, signed by lawyers etc, then visa fee's & only deliver by hand, can go to penang, but im heading up NE, easy to cross into loas capital to thai consulate, of coarse visa for loas, but reading application online it says a CV, monies in bank now, police & medical report, it say 800,000 in bank for 3 month, i believed first O visa was application was 2 month, what sort of CV, medical check is it still 50B, police report as a non criminal should be ok, letter from bank easy, its just has anyone dont there O visa at vientiant loas, i think thats how its spelt & point out any points ive mist & things to look out for regarding application or a better option, im literally 2 hours away to drive to capital, cheers

 

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[Somtamnication]

Go to Savannakhet. No need to show funds. Search the visa forum. I wrote a comprehensive "to do".

[stevenl]

In UK should have been easy as well, police clearance is only required for O-A, not for O.

 

You could also convert pre3sent entry to O visa, or simply go to Laos.

 

I would recommend you ask a mod to place this in visa, since it seems not Phuket related, and general knowledge there is excellent.

[steve187]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

In UK should have been easy as well, police clearance is only required for O-A, not for O.

 

You could also convert pre3sent entry to O visa, or simply go to Laos.

 

I would recommend you ask a mod to place this in visa, since it seems not Phuket related, and general knowledge there is excellent.

YU non 'O' only available to over 65 in receipt of government  pension.

[stevenl]

21 minutes ago, steve187 said:

YU non 'O' only available to over 65 in receipt of government  pension.

Requirements which the op would have met in UK. In Laos much easier to obtain though.

[britpop]

Ah, this is exactly what has been happening, i ask a exact question, whats the procedure for Laos, in CV, police & medical reports & 800,000 in bank for how long, same as generally asking, different stories & answers, so to put it easier, ive done a extension to tourist visa, ive got 800,000 in the bank, no need to use companies, simply what is the correct & easiest procedures either Laos or somewhere else, infact do i have to leave, well lets see more incredible answers pls

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[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, britpop said:

Ah, this is exactly what has been happening, i ask a exact question, whats the procedure for Laos, in CV, police & medical reports & 800,000 in bank for how long, same as generally asking, different stories & answers, so to put it easier, ive done a extension to tourist visa, ive got 800,000 in the bank, no need to use companies, simply what is the correct & easiest procedures either Laos or somewhere else, infact do i have to leave, well lets see more incredible answers pls

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Ask in visa forum.

[britpop]

Ask in visa forum.

Thanks

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[ubonjoe]

32 minutes ago, britpop said:

Ah, this is exactly what has been happening, i ask a exact question, whats the procedure for Laos, in CV, police & medical reports & 800,000 in bank for how long, same as generally asking, different stories & answers, so to put it easier, ive done a extension to tourist visa, ive got 800,000 in the bank, no need to use companies, simply what is the correct & easiest procedures either Laos or somewhere else, infact do i have to leave, well lets see more incredible answers pls

You are on the visa forum now after it was moved to here.

Vientiane does require a medical and police clearance. They will accept both done here in the country.

It can take up to 30 days to get the police clearance certificate unless you use an agency (their suggested agency is http://www.a-plusservice.com/). You can only apply for it in Bangkok.

See: http://www.pcscenter.sb.police.go.th/eng/

Savannakhet Laos does not ask for the medical or police clearance. If using the 800k baht in the bank option they want proof of retirement which can be a income letter from your embassy proving any amount of income.

Penang has the same requirements as Savannakhet.

You can also apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration. You must have at least 15 days remain on your current permit to stay. Requirements are here: https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

 

 

[britpop]

You are on the visa forum now after it was moved to here.
Vientiane does require a medical and police clearance. They will accept both done here in the country.
It can take up to 30 days to get the police clearance certificate unless you use an agency (their suggested agency is http://www.a-plusservice.com/). You can only apply for it in Bangkok.
See: http://www.pcscenter.sb.police.go.th/eng/
Savannakhet Laos does not ask for the medical or police clearance. If using the 800k baht in the bank option they want proof of retirement which can be a income letter from your embassy proving any amount of income.
Penang has the same requirements as Savannakhet.
You can also apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration. You must have at least 15 days remain on your current permit to stay. Requirements are here: https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80
 
 

Hi, yip Savannakhet is closer to where i am in roi et, with having over million in the bank i presume i dont need a embassy letter as in i live in phuket for 17 years, my income is from thailand, again a bit confused from 3 years ago, i dont have to leave thailand every 3 month do i, just report to immigration, is a O visa the same as a retirement visa, the old me used to get a single entry O from uk, then turn that into retirement visa, so no need to leave, just report to immigration, only the once then just renew every year, but accident in uk & being away for nearly 3 years has changed, so id appreciate any further advice to have a visa that i dont need to leave phuket, just report in & easiest way to get it, sorry accident was slight brain damage, front lobe damage, so sometimes confusing kicks in easy, but youve been very helpful

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[stevenl]

Once you have your visa you can apply for an extension of stay based on retirement. With that extension you don't have to leave the country anymore.

[ubonjoe]

10 minutes ago, britpop said:

Hi, yip Savannakhet is closer to where i am in roi et, with having over million in the bank i presume i dont need a embassy letter as in i live in phuket for 17 years

At Savannakhet you need proof you are retired. That can be a income letter or you could do a statement at the embassy that your retirement. 

After getting the non-o visa you can apply for a one year extension of stay based upon retirement at immigration during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry from the visa.

Are you living in Roi Et or Phuket? 

There is a immigration office in Roi Et where you could apply for the visa if you have 15 days remaining on the 30 day extension of your tourist visa entry.

[britpop]

Once you have your visa you can apply for an extension of stay based on retirement. With that extension you don't have to leave the country anymore.

Hi, this is where im confused, can i get a single O from Laos, come back to phuket then get the extension for retirement, or have to get a multi entry O let that run for a year, then retirement extension, do you know at Savannakhet how long you have to show your 800,000 in the bank, i thought 2 month, but people say 3, when i cross to Savannakhet im 7 days short so would have to stay to get to 90 days + do i need a letter from uk embassy on income, i would have thought no as ive well over the 800,000 in bank, you can tell 3 years away

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[stevenl]

38 minutes ago, britpop said:

Hi, this is where im confused, can i get a single O from Laos, come back to phuket then get the extension for retirement, or have to get a multi entry O let that run for a year, then retirement extension, do you know at Savannakhet how long you have to show your 800,000 in the bank, i thought 2 month, but people say 3, when i cross to Savannakhet im 7 days short so would have to stay to get to 90 days + do i need a letter from uk embassy on income, i would have thought no as ive well over the 800,000 in bank, you can tell 3 years away

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Single entry is sufficient.

 

AFAIK it does not have to be seasoned, that would be for extension in country (first extension 2 month), but maybe somebody can confirm/correct.

[britpop]

At Savannakhet you need proof you are retired. That can be a income letter or you could do a statement at the embassy that your retirement. 
After getting the non-o visa you can apply for a one year extension of stay based upon retirement at immigration during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry from the visa.
Are you living in Roi Et or Phuket? 
There is a immigration office in Roi Et where you could apply for the visa if you have 15 days remaining on the 30 day extension of your tourist visa entry.

Hi ubonjoe, this is were im totally confused, im living in phuket, but going go roi et to visit friends, my impressions were ive got to leave thailand to get a single entry O visa to then re-enter thailand to turn into a retirement visa, so no need to keep leaving phuket, ive got 4 retirement visas in passport but been away from thailand because of road accident in uk, am i reading this correct if ive got 15 days left of my single tourist visa extension, which i have 28 days left, i can apply for a O visa in thailand, ive got 800,000 in the thai bank now for 60 days, got my residency slip in passport for a condo i own, ive even got a company which im the director for a house, now if going to Savannakhet for O visa if i have to, does 800,000 have to in the bank for 3 month, 2 month or just 1 day, if ive got over 800,000 in the thai bank, then i believe i dont need a uk embassy letter, im 56 so not officially uk retirement age, hope you can help on my confusing

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[Lite Beer]

You can apply for a Non Imm Visa in Phuket if you qualify for the 12 month extension.

800,000 in the bank

 

You can then apply for the 12 month extension in Phuket.

800,000 in the bank for 2 months.

Edited January 21, 2018 by Lite Beer

[britpop]

You can apply for a Non Imm Visa in Phuket if you qualify for the 12 month extension.
800,000 in the bank
 
You can then apply for the 12 month extension in Phuket.
800,000 in the bank for 2 months.

Hi lite beer, again confused, so my 60 day tourist + its 30 day extension, are you saying a further 12 month o visa extension i can get without leaving phuket because ive got my 800,000 in the thai bank, within 2 days ive heard so many different stories & procedures to follow, do or do i not have to leave phuket, why would i go to laos or penang if i can get a O visa extension right here in phuket, can someone please explain it in simple terms as though im a 5 year old kid

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[BritTim]

5 hours ago, britpop said:

Hi lite beer, again confused, so my 60 day tourist + its 30 day extension, are you saying a further 12 month o visa extension i can get without leaving phuket because ive got my 800,000 in the thai bank, within 2 days ive heard so many different stories & procedures to follow, do or do i not have to leave phuket, why would i go to laos or penang if i can get a O visa extension right here in phuket, can someone please explain it in simple terms as though im a 5 year old kid

It can be confusing. When you are here on a tourist entry, you cannot directly apply for an extension on the basis of retirement. You need to be in Thailand on a non immigrant entry. This, in principle, requires that you have a non immigrant visa when you enter Thailand. However, there is a special procedure known as "conversion" that effectively allows you to apply for a Non Immigrant visa without leaving Thailand, that is immediately marked "used", giving you a 90-day non immigrant entry. Towards the end of that 90-day stay, you then apply for the one-year extension. To apply for the conversion, you will need at least 15 days (possibly 21 days) left on your existing permission to stay. There are many threads on this board explaining the details of the conversion process..

[JackThompson]

8 hours ago, britpop said:

a further 12 month o visa extension i can get without leaving phuket because ive got my 800,000 in the thai bank, within 2 days ive heard so many different stories & procedures to follow, do or do i not have to leave phuket, why would i go to laos or penang if i can get a O visa extension right here in phuket,

You might have to go to Laos or Penang because some immigration offices throw up barriers to getting conversions done.  Each office operates as if it is its own country - making up whatever rules they want - and no one in Bangkok lifts a finger to get them to follow the laws/regulations on the books and do their jobs.  In some cases, this appears to be to drive applicants to agents, who will launder bribes to corrupt IOs from agent fees* - hence their motivation for not processing these honestly. 

(* generally 10x+ the cost of the service you should be able to get directly at the immigration-office). 

 

Therefore, you will not know for sure if your conditions get through Phuket-offices' requirements to process a "conversion" (absent "agent" assistance), unless/until you try try to get a Non-O entry from the office in Phuket.  Good Luck.

[Lite Beer]

Yes.

Pop along to Immigration in Phuket and ask.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, JackThompson said:

You might have to go to Laos or Penang because some immigration offices throw up barriers to getting conversions done.  Each office operates as if it is its own country - making up whatever rules they want - and no one in Bangkok lifts a finger to get them to follow the laws/regulations on the books and do their jobs.  In some cases, this appears to be to drive applicants to agents, who will launder bribes to corrupt IOs from agent fees* - hence their motivation for not processing these honestly. 

(* generally 10x+ the cost of the service you should be able to get directly at the immigration-office). 

 

Therefore, you will not know for sure if your conditions get through Phuket-offices' requirements to process a "conversion" (absent "agent" assistance), unless/until you try try to get a Non-O entry from the office in Phuket.  Good Luck.

Why make it so difficult for the OP? He is enquiring about Phuket, where the conversion can be done without problems, as indicated already earlier in the thread.

 

@ Britpop, also check this thread,

also a quick trip to Penang would be an option for you.

Edited January 22, 2018 by stevenl

[britpop]

Yes.
Pop along to Immigration in Phuket and ask.

Thanks, i definatly will, i spoke to a german lady who helps, when i got my extension for tourist visa, couldnt quite understand, but something was mentioned about before 15 days runs out, i bet it was this, so im along there today, what a easy fix if it is this or if someone knew how to get it done via the old money system in my passport as a back hander, all the immigration officers i knew have gone, who'd say no problem, of coarse for that back hander

[britpop]

Hi, yip went to immigration phuket, renewed recidency with chanote, letter & statements signed & stamped from bank, i was told that on extension of tourist visa application for O you had to have 15 days left on extension, its now 21 days, so i have 6 days to make O application without leaving thailand, tomorrow in there on opening, hopefully friday collect, then cant leave thailand for that 3 month O, but can within the last month change to retirement visa as long as 800,000 in the bank, german farang helper was very procise, very helpful & said get back tomorrow, & finished

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[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, britpop said:

hopefully friday collect, then cant leave thailand for that 3 month O, but can within the last month change to retirement visa

You can leave during the 90 day entry from the visa if you get single re-entry permit (1000 baht) to keep the remainder of the 90 days valid when you enter the country. The re-entry permit will be be valid for entry up to the date the 90 days end.

[britpop]

Yeah, all done, as usual its a massive paperchase, as usual if id listened to farang at immigration id have walked away, said it cant be done, youve got to go penang for sure, went in a 9:30am, residency paper in room 101, the O visa room 103, the application gets sort then put in passport, that why they need 21 days, to process the application, but done

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