In Russia the would be poisened, in China dissapeared, what is becoming of Thailand, it makes my stomach sick.

I wonder if all of the business owners on Sukhumvit Road who lost a shitload of money during the shutdown can sue for damages. I, for one, would be happy to.

"....would never flee the country."

 

That would be the world's third (Thailand's number one) biggest lie after:

1.) The check/cheque is in the mail.

2.) I will not c*m on your face.

3.) I will not flee the county.

 

It is a logical step from the junta they must have to do it before any election, even if it is really disguising in many respects. The name of the game is politics. The word comes from ancient Greece. Those Greek males, who were interested in the affairs and business of the town were called to politics and those who not, were called to idiotes... That was an other "democracy". The word has changed a lot since....

Thanks Admin for the topic. Great to see all of the 'junta paranoids' together on the one topic.

18 hours ago, Ricardo said:

 

I wonder whether the plan is to go with tradition, and have him escorted to the border by a policeman, if he looks in-danger of being convicted ?

You are wrong.

The Thai tradition is that he will be convicted to keep the masses pleased;
A few pictures of him in jail clothes will be shared;
And then he pays some poor family a monthly allowance to have a family member take his place in prison.

But you know that, he Ricardo?

Anyone notice several of the charges are similar to what coup leaders actually do also?

Oh well, the more things change the more they stay the same. 

10 hours ago, heybruce said:

Thaksin came to power through elections.  Democracy may have been a means to an end for him, but it was how he came to power, and the only way he tried to continue in power.

 

Democrats don't stage coups, they let the military stage a coup then hand power to them.  That is how Abhisit became Prime Minister, and what the Democrats where hoping would happen after the 2014 coup.  That is why they supported Prayut.

I'm sure the Dems now don't support Prayuth, Abhisit have came out in opposition with many of the things Prayuth proposes. The funny thing is that if the Dems and PTP came together to form one party, things may actually look good for Thailand.

3 hours ago, TomAikins said:

I wonder if all of the business owners on Sukhumvit Road who lost a shitload of money during the shutdown can sue for damages. I, for one, would be happy to.

Well the Bangkok Shutdown had minimal impact on business compare to the ones staged by the PTP when they shutdown roads permanently in many parts of Bangkok.

Has anyone ever noticed that the only politicians that face charges here are former politicians? Or former cops. Or former officials. Always former. Never current. 

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Has anyone ever noticed that the only politicians that face charges here are former politicians? Or former cops. Or former officials. Always former. Never current. 

I'm sure everyone noticed, and are not surprised. Lol

44 minutes ago, mike324 said:

Well the Bangkok Shutdown had minimal impact on business compare to the ones staged by the PTP when they shutdown roads permanently in many parts of Bangkok.

Not sure about that. Bangkok Shutdown was in 7 locations and were longer. The one near Central Lad Prao closed my restaurant for few months. I had to move out eventually. But agree with you that these kind of demonstrations must be stopped and any public places disallowed for demonstrations. Most countries have strict rules on approving demonstration sites and number of days. I hope the new laws have all these provisions.  

54 minutes ago, mike324 said:

Well the Bangkok Shutdown had minimal impact on business compare to the ones staged by the PTP when they shutdown roads permanently in many parts of Bangkok.

That will be a solid defense for Suthep: "but but but Taksin .... ".

21 minutes ago, Bob12345 said:

That will be a solid defense for Suthep: "but but but Taksin .... ".

well I was just replying to the other commenter who was questioning on the effects on business. Which the truth was that it had minimal effect. But guess you don't know much about the issue, which is fine.

 

I'm not defending Suthep, this dog should be in jail long time ago.

Edited January 25, 20188 yr by mike324

25 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Not sure about that. Bangkok Shutdown was in 7 locations and were longer. The one near Central Lad Prao closed my restaurant for few months. I had to move out eventually. But agree with you that these kind of demonstrations must be stopped and any public places disallowed for demonstrations. Most countries have strict rules on approving demonstration sites and number of days. I hope the new laws have all these provisions.  

More locations sure, but most roads were open still which allow people to freely move in and out, so compare to the red shirt protest. It really had minimal impact. The economic loss caused by the red shirts were much greater. But both groups broke the law, so I'm not trying to justify anything to be honest other than pointing out the economic lost which one commenter was inquiring.

21 hours ago, seminomadic said:

Good news. Put a muzzle on this PoS, please.

 

Remember that face, contorted and sinewy in self-righteous indignation, all those "THAKSIN PIT" punctuated speeches?

 

Look at that face now. Have a good look at his face in that picture above. That's the countenance of a true PoS. Can't hide it. Does it not tweak your punch reflex?

 don't forget that he meanwhile enjoyed a lengthy mental overhaul in a temple - do not punch s.b. who recently majored in Buddhism

Only about 4 years too late.

 

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Has anyone ever noticed that the only politicians that face charges here are former politicians? Or former cops. Or former officials. Always former. Never current. 

Per definition, active officials can not be charged when in office.

Why?

Separation of powers.

That's why the police should never enter parliament, provincial or local councils.

Lawmakers, in function, stand above upholders of the law.

Edited January 25, 20188 yr by hansnl

No mention of "Red Shirts" here.

If the police had done their job in the first place by stopping them set up tents etc on main roads

this would never have escalated as it did . But most of the force at least sympathetic to their cause

so just ignored the warning signs & stayed away.

15 minutes ago, natway09 said:

No mention of "Red Shirts" here.

If the police had done their job in the first place by stopping them set up tents etc on main roads

this would never have escalated as it did . But most of the force at least sympathetic to their cause

so just ignored the warning signs & stayed away.

Escalating, using violence and intimidation to obstruct government and prevent an election, and creating a justification for a coup was Suthep's plan from the beginning.  It was failing, the protests were dying, so the military stepped in before it lost all justification.

11 minutes ago, natway09 said:

No mention of "Red Shirts" here.

If the police had done their job in the first place by stopping them set up tents etc on main roads

this would never have escalated as it did . But most of the force at least sympathetic to their cause

so just ignored the warning signs & stayed away.

The police were powerless thanks to the court and the Constitution.

When police attempted to clear PDRC from the Government House by water hoses and riot gas, a court ruled that the protesters were only exercising their freedom of expression. Thereby, the government was told it could not intercede in the protests.

The government could not further call in the military to restore order because, as I understand, the government was under a caretaker PM when snap elections were declared in 2013. As such a State of Emergency could not be declared that would have given the military authority to mobilize. Of course eventually the military did mobilize on its own prerogative - to overthrow the government.

good it is about time

There's still a lot of support for Suthep out there in the South of course but also in the nuttier extremes of the Bangkok middle class.There is some correlation between Prayuth's declining fortunes I suspect.

Edited January 25, 20188 yr by jayboy

3 hours ago, mike324 said:

I'm sure the Dems now don't support Prayuth, Abhisit have came out in opposition with many of the things Prayuth proposes. The funny thing is that if the Dems and PTP came together to form one party, things may actually look good for Thailand.

They will never come together... they all want to be in power to feed of the corruption money. There is just not enough for both parties. There will be fights over who gets what and the alliance will break down. 

 

IF they genuinely would come together for the greater good.. sure... but I don't see them changing their habits. 

Probation

Snake show to pacify the red shirts?

suthep is just as bad as thaksin, they are 2 peas in a pod. all that matters to them both is money, the people of Thailand are a far distant second. This idiot needs to be locked up and put away, people in the south are well aware of him and his families "businesses", they are the same as thaksins, far from legal and all to profit the family and rip off the public. We can only hope he goes away for a long time but like all the other cretins that were in the red shirt blockade he will probably get off lightly, only the poor are held responsible here

On 1/24/2018 at 7:20 AM, webfact said:

Mr Suthep said before acknowledging the charges that he was ready to fight the case in accordance with justice procedure and would never flee the country.

That's a shame the country would be better off without him and a load of the others. could that be because no other country would give him asylum.

 

Justice here that will be the day Not guilty.

On 1/25/2018 at 1:09 PM, hansnl said:

Lawmakers, in function, stand above upholders of the law.

Isn't the NACC charged with investigation and prosecuting criminal allegations for Persons Holding Political Positions? https://www.nacc.go.th/ewt_news.php?nid=937

So in theory Thai lawmakers do not stand above the law.

 

However, the NACC requires a complaint. As such it cannot unilaterally initiate a case and its membership qualifications are defined by outside agencies that potentially exposes it to politicalization. So in practice the role of the NACC as a check & balance against unlawful, acts by public officials seems questionable.

On 24/01/2018 at 2:27 PM, Eligius said:

And of course Suthep is going to be found guilty and will spend years and years in jail - of course ...!

If found guilty the law also allows for him to be exacuted.