British minister preparing to resign and denounce PM May - Sun newspaper

[SheungWan]

10 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Maybe you should concentrate on an MPs' policies, ideas, political intelligence and ability, rather than looking for silly tabloid style stories to put people down with.

I never agreed with people attacking Corbyn for his scruffy attire and lack of a tie etc. But it seems people are going to be using similar tactics with Rees Mogg, except at the other end of the scale, i.e. attacking his upper class background.

This would be the same Rees-Mogg who said of John Prescott that 'his accent certainly stereotypes him as an oaf'.

[SheungWan]

On 2/3/2018 at 6:37 PM, malagateddy said:

You obviously do not like JRM..I think he is what Britain needs at this time..a man of substance..not a globalist fat cat
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Yes, a man of substance who when accused of touring his constituency in a Bentley, described this as 'scurrilous' and said that, actually, it had been a Mercedes.

[SheungWan]

7 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

You'll be telling us he's got a degree in dressmaking next.

Rees-Mogg went to Eton and studied History at Oxford.

[malagateddy]

Face facts please..financially the UK was a basket case under war criminal blair and pension thief brown..the tories had to begin cleaning up their financial mess.
Sure..the pound sterling has dropped but as a British expat living in Thailand..I will take the "hit" as I care about my friends, their kids and grand-kids over in the UK.
I want a better future for them. I do not want any more muslims nor eastern europeans in the UK..neither do they. My home city was Glasgow where now there are 2 areas full of muslim and eastern european immigrants.
When Doctors/Nurses/Carers for the Elderly Ambulances/Paramedics on motorbikes/the Fire Brigade go on call to these 2 areas..they have to have a Police escort..DISGRACEFUL
You wonder why people voted to leave the crummy eu???!!!

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[RuamRudy]

4 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Face facts please..financially the UK was a basket case under war criminal blair and pension thief brown..the tories had to begin cleaning up their financial mess.
Sure..the pound sterling has dropped but as a British expat living in Thailand..I will take the "hit" as I care about my friends, their kids and grand-kids over in the UK.
I want a better future for them. I do not want any more muslims nor eastern europeans in the UK..neither do they. My home city was Glasgow where now there are 2 areas full of muslim and eastern european immigrants.
When Doctors/Nurses/Carers for the Elderly Ambulances/Paramedics on motorbikes/the Fire Brigade go on call to these 2 areas..they have to have a Police escort..DISGRACEFUL
You wonder why people voted to leave the crummy eu???!!!

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Clearing up their mess? Your definition of clearing up is clearly very different to mine. 

In 2010 the UK national debt was £980 billion, 65% of GDP. 

Under the careful stewardship of the Tories, it is now £1,731 billion, 89% of GDP. 

Any suggestion that the Tories have positively affected the UK finances is indicative of a failure to understand what is happening around you. That is why we have Brexit.

[malagateddy]

Immigration was the brexit driver..immigrants are very costly to the taxpayer..housing..education..health care giving them money..crime thro the roof..my home city Glasgow is a perfect example..perhaps you should live in a Glasgow area called Govanhill for a few months..I think you would change your mind re Brexit

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[billd766]

Is this the ex Minister?

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42955553

 

quote " "They are not the Tory party I joined 40 years ago and it is about time Theresa stood up to them and slung 'em out. They have taken down Major, they took down Cameron, two great leaders neither of whom stood up to them."

 

I did notice that she carefully omitted which group brought Margaret Thatcher down.

 

So what. 40 years ago it was a completely different world and to class John Major and David Cameron as "great leaders" shows how far out of touch she is IMHO.

 

 

Edited February 6, 2018 by billd766
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[RuamRudy]

6 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Immigration was the brexit driver..immigrants are very costly to the taxpayer..housing..education..health care giving them money..crime thro the roof..my home city Glasgow is a perfect example..perhaps you should live in a Glasgow area called Govanhill for a few months..I think you would change your mind re Brexit

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These emergency services that are under attack - is that from Eastern European or Muslim attackers? My experience of Scottish neds is that they tend, to a man (or boy), to be pasty white and speak with broad  local accents.

[malagateddy]

Muslims and eastern europeans..I keep in touch with friends back in Glasgow..some of their kids are serving police officers in Glasgow

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[billd766]

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

These emergency services that are under attack - is that from Eastern European or Muslim attackers? My experience of Scottish neds is that they tend, to a man (or boy), to be pasty white and speak with broad  local accents.

 

I have a memory of working both in Glasgow and Edinburgh in the early 1990s, and eating in Indian and Chinese restaurants where the waiters were Indian and Chinese and spoke with a broad Scottish accent that I as a southern Englander had a lot of trouble understanding.

 

The food was good but I drew a line at both curried and sweet and sour haggis.

[malagateddy]

So a bitter remoaning snowdrop is gonna spit out the dummy..who also thought the likes of Cameron was a great PM.
Roll on the day when JRM is PM[emoji2][emoji2][emoji2]

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[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Clearing up their mess? Your definition of clearing up is clearly very different to mine. 

In 2010 the UK national debt was £980 billion, 65% of GDP. 

Under the careful stewardship of the Tories, it is now £1,731 billion, 89% of GDP. 

Any suggestion that the Tories have positively affected the UK finances is indicative of a failure to understand what is happening around you. That is why we have Brexit.

IMO Brown so destroyed the British economy that the Tories inherited a lost cause. I doubt any mere human could sort it.

Blair didn't help by being a "poodle" to Bush and wasting a lot of money in Iraq. I still have that awful image of him wearing that pullover and grinning like some puppy being stroked by it's human.

 

BTW, I was working in the NHS when Brown threw 6 billion quid away on it and let the managers waste it all on more managers and flash buildings. Pity it didn't go to patient care.

Edited February 6, 2018 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Is this the ex Minister?

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42955553

 

quote " "They are not the Tory party I joined 40 years ago and it is about time Theresa stood up to them and slung 'em out. They have taken down Major, they took down Cameron, two great leaders neither of whom stood up to them."

 

I did notice that she carefully omitted which group brought Margaret Thatcher down.

 

So what. 40 years ago it was a completely different world and to class John Major and David Cameron as "great leaders" shows how far out of touch she is IMHO.

 

 

Major + great leader does not belong in the same sentence.

I am old enough to remember his time as PM.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Immigration was the brexit driver..immigrants are very costly to the taxpayer..housing..education..health care giving them money..crime thro the roof..my home city Glasgow is a perfect example..perhaps you should live in a Glasgow area called Govanhill for a few months..I think you would change your mind re Brexit
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Londoners wouldn't be seen dead in Glasgow. Scottish immigrants can be a bit tiresome on occasion though.

[SheungWan]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Brown so destroyed the British economy that the Tories inherited a lost cause. I doubt any mere human could sort it.

Blair didn't help by being a "poodle" to Bush and wasting a lot of money in Iraq. I still have that awful image of him wearing that pullover and grinning like some puppy being stroked by it's human.

 

BTW, I was working in the NHS when Brown threw 6 billion quid away on it and let the managers waste it all on more managers and flash buildings. Pity it didn't go to patient care.

Pet whinges and their whingers taking a ride on Brexit.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, SheungWan said:

This would be the same Rees-Mogg who said of John Prescott that 'his accent certainly stereotypes him as an oaf'.

That may not be a PC statement, and IMO accents are not indicative of anything much, but I don't disagree with him that Prescott was not a particularly impressive politician.

[SheungWan]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That may not be a PC statement, and IMO accents are not indicative of anything much, but I don't disagree with him that Prescott was not a particularly impressive politician.

2 Jags could certainly run Rees-Mogg close as a buffoon, but no cigar. Rees-Mogg a total comedian with his swivel-eyed Brexiteer fan-base.

[malagateddy]

Sheung wan..most of my mates here are cockneys..they also say that London is now a slum clearance due to immigration

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[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

So a bitter remoaning snowdrop is gonna spit out the dummy..who also thought the likes of Cameron was a great PM.
Roll on the day when JRM is PM
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whereas the Brexiteer fan club for Rees-Mogg hold on to their dummy.

[malagateddy]

Lets face facts..remoaners are but bitter snowflakes

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[SheungWan]

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

Sheung wan..most of my mates here are cockneys..they also say that London is now a slum clearance due to immigration
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Probably live in some grotty dump part of London.

[malagateddy]

Seems to me that all the BREXIT remoaners will just have to SUCK IT UP

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[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Probably live in some grotty dump part of London.

That's the only part of London ordinary people can afford to live. I know.

[SheungWan]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's the only part of London ordinary people can afford to live. I know.

Don't worry. After Brexit you can come and live with me in Zone 1.

[CG1 Blue]

11 hours ago, SheungWan said:

That's right. When I go into TT Exchange to buy some baht I ask for the Forwards Brexiteer Certainty Rate. They are so happy to offer me 55 baht to the pound.

You're missing the point.  Neither side has certainty at the moment. And neither will have certainty until negotiations are complete. That's when the pound will firm up.

 

But I know one thing that is certain.  All the negativity and disruption being caused by hard remainers will damage our chances of getting the best deal possible.

[SheungWan]

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

You're missing the point.  Neither side has certainty at the moment. And neither will have certainty until negotiations are complete. That's when the pound will firm up.

But I know one thing that is certain.  All the negativity and disruption being caused by hard remainers will damage our chances of getting the best deal possible.

'That's when the pound will firm up'. Sure, that's certain.

[thaibeachlovers]

37 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Don't worry. After Brexit you can come and live with me in Zone 1.

I did live in Zone one. Only because I was an "essential worker" and qualified for special housing.

[SheungWan]

52 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's the only part of London ordinary people can afford to live. I know.

 

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I did live in Zone one. Only because I was an "essential worker" and qualified for special housing.

So affordable then for you at the time. I hope it wasn't South of the River.

[CG1 Blue]

4 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

'That's when the pound will firm up'. Sure, that's certain.

You have a good point, I'll give you that! 

 

Correction: the pound should firm up. I believe it will, because the FX market is heavily discounting GBP in case of a disastrous deal with the EU, and zero benefits from leaving. So as Yazz once said, the only way is up! (in my opinion)

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Brown so destroyed the British economy that the Tories inherited a lost cause. I doubt any mere human could sort it.

Blair didn't help by being a "poodle" to Bush and wasting a lot of money in Iraq. I still have that awful image of him wearing that pullover and grinning like some puppy being stroked by it's human.

 

BTW, I was working in the NHS when Brown threw 6 billion quid away on it and let the managers waste it all on more managers and flash buildings. Pity it didn't go to patient care.

My opinion is different - the Tories used the situation to implement quantatative easing, a process that has long been known to be nothing other than a cash grab by the rich, to borrow billions of pounds to give to their rich friends and donors, while passing the bill to future generations of working class people to pay. Blame Brown all you like, but 8 years of Tory greed and corruption, and  the country that has never been more decrepit.