Jimdandy Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 10 hours ago, wabothai said: Not to forget the Carib. Yep and Majuro in the Marshall island is horrible. Glass, dead dogs, bottles, rusted car parts and that is keep it mild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, smedly said: lets not forget that "we" in the west and pretty much the rest of the world have had freedom of movement to go just about go where ever we like for a very long time, Chinese people are very new to holiday travel outside of China and IMO are being exploited in Thailand, their naivety is being prayed upon I wonder how many of them go home thinking - what was that all about, well I got a ride in an airplane for the first time and travelled on a luxury bus and got to go on a boat Exploitation on mass, don't get me wrong I think it is cool that these oppressed people get the opportunity to travel, but they are seriously being (deleted) over big time "... well I got a ride in an airplane for the first time and travelled on a luxury bus and got to go on a boat" 487,960,000 air travellers between Chinese destinations in 2016. China has changed a tad since you were last there I suspect. www.statista.com/statistics/275907/number-of-air-passengers-in-china Islamabad is now more popular than Ibiza with UK air travellers But then so has the "west" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/most-popular-destinations-britons-flights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Indeed - mene, mene, tekel, upharsin. The natural beauty of Thailand is a thing of the past, as is the innocence of their women. Welcome to the 21st century. Edited February 3, 2018 by nausea Punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Thailand's beautiful islands were trashed 20 years agoSent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Never happen! Just too much money involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Thailand needs to copy Bhutan's system on tourism. Imposing a daily fee of US$250.- on tourists that covers touring and hotel accommodation. It will then become a high value destination with Quality Tourists. Edited February 4, 2018 by PAIBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I live in Pattaya. I often wonder what is worse: living in pattaya and dealing with the Chinese tourists on a daily basis or some guy saving all his pennies for a dream vacation to Thailand alone or with his family and every single place he goes is packed with the screaming Chinese heathens. which is worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, soistalker said: Chinese heathens. What do you call men and women from other cultures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 9 hours ago, PAIBKK said: Imposing a daily fee of US$250 Is that anything like financial segregation? Rich only are welcome all others stay out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Jimdandy said: What do you call men and women from other cultures? Humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Jimdandy said: Is that anything like financial segregation? Rich only are welcome all others stay out! The rich are far less likely to be environmentally insensitive to your country when they visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 5:19 AM, rooster59 said: the signs are all there that the very reason tourists come could be destroyed by the visitors That's been true for decades now on the beaches. He's a bit behind the times. They were destroyed by Thais concreting the beaches in a greedy frenzy to attract the flashpacker brigade. On 2/3/2018 at 5:19 AM, rooster59 said: Billions being earned in tourist revenue by tourist spending and park fees was not being put back into the parks themselves in improved infrastructure. Nothing new there. Samet was probably the most blatant example of park officials with hands out for park fees and doing nothing at all to improve the place. They didn't even collect the rubbish. It was a disgrace last time I went there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puwa Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 8:29 AM, robertthesculptor said: Ah yes xenophobia and racism rule the day..... The article takes 30 seconds to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, soistalker said: The rich are far less likely to be environmentally insensitive to your country when they visit. It seems they are less likely to be environmentally insensitive at first glance. When you really look at it closer, wealthy people are less likely to advocate for or support initiatives which address global warming for example, instead choosing to invest in projects such as drilling for oil, cutting down forrest in the name of development or mining for precious metals all to seek an ROI (return on investment) It does seem like it on the micro level as far as visitations and travel where they are under the microscope but on the macro global financial level where you cannot see where the money is coming from they are the worse, all for the sake of the almighty dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, soistalker said: Humans. Let's just hope you never get injured or sick or need life saving surgery and the doctor happens to be Chinese....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimdandy said: It seems they are less likely to be environmentally insensitive at first glance. When you really look at it closer, wealthy people are less likely to advocate for or support initiatives which address global warming for example, instead choosing to invest in projects such as drilling for oil, cutting down forrest in the name of development or mining for precious metals all to seek an ROI (return on investment) It does seem like it on the micro level as far as visitations and travel where they are under the microscope but on the macro global financial level where you cannot see where the money is coming from they are the worse, all for the sake of the almighty dollar. Obviously, you don't know anything about the upper/upper-middle classes. And a public school education for you that ended before college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, Jimdandy said: Let's just hope you never get injured or sick or need life saving surgery and the doctor happens to be Chinese....... Have you ever had medical care in the third world? You don't know what you've just written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckio Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Greed and profit usually "trump" words of death and destruction. nothing is going to change until its too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 hmmm..given that Thais are some of the most environmentally unaware people, this smacks of hypocrisy. Most of the garbage in the sea comes from Thais (and their unregulated garbage dumping). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, soistalker said: Have you ever had medical care in the third world? You don't know what you've just written. Even in Western countries, a large proportion of doctors are of asian descent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, soistalker said: Have you ever had medical care in the third world? You don't know what you've just written. Third world? Isn't that just a little archaic, or do you really know of two worlds in addition to the one we all share... If you mean have I ever had medical care in country that is not Western Euro master race kind of thinking, I have. Edited February 5, 2018 by Jimdandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jimdandy said: Third world? Isn't that just a little archaic, or do you really know of two worlds in addition to the one we all share... If you mean have I ever had medical care in country that is not Western Euro master race kind of thinking, I have. How did your gender reassignment surgery turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, Jimdandy said: Third world? Isn't that just a little archaic, or do you really know of two worlds in addition to the one we all share... If you mean have I ever had medical care in country that is not Western Euro master race kind of thinking, I have. No. You're right. I'm sure the hygiene and cleanliness of the hospitals are commensurate in any country because we are all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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