Trump's military parade could cost up to $30 million-budget chief

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Trump's military parade could cost up to $30 million-budget chief

By Katanga Johnson

 

U.S. President Donald Trump holds a meeting at the White House in Washington, U.S., February 13, 2018. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The military parade that President Donald Trump wants to stage, likely in Washington, would cost U.S. taxpayers up to $30 million, the White House budget chief said on Wednesday in remarks on the administration's fiscal 2019 spending plan.

 

Mick Mulvaney, who in a congressional hearing continued a broad defence of the $4.4-trillion plan he began earlier this week, was asked about the parade, which Trump's spending plan does not break out as a specific item.

 

"The estimates I’ve seen, they’re very preliminary, is between $10 million and $30 million, depending upon the length," said Mulvaney, director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB). "Obviously an hour parade is different from a five-hour parade in terms of the cost and the equipment and those types of things."

 

According to media reports, Trump came up with the idea of showing off U.S. military might after a 2017 trip to France when he and French President Emmanuel Macron reviewed that country's defence forces marching down the Avenue des Champs-Elysees in Paris. 

 

Trump ordered the Defense Department to look into a comparable display of military might that he could review.

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said last week he believed Trump wants Washington to host the parade but left open the possibility that it could be staged elsewhere.

 

Critics have ridiculed the idea of a costly display of troops and weapons at a time when the Pentagon is struggling to cover the expenses of training, support and personnel.

 

Democratic Representative Barbara Lee questioned Mulvaney at a House of Representatives Budget Committee hearing about the costs. She noted, "You know the parade is very similar to those held in authoritarian countries like North Korea."

 

Mulvaney said at the hearing, "We've actually had many military parades in this country before. I think we had one as recently as the 1990s, and maybe one more recently than that."

 

MULVANEY SAYS BACKS BUDGET

 

Ahead of Mulvaney's testimony, Republican committee Chairman Steve Womack asked about the deficit impact of Trump's spending plan. Mulvaney faced similar inquiries earlier this week.

 

At a Senate panel hearing on Tuesday, he was asked if he would vote for the Trump spending plan if he were still in Congress, which he was before Trump hired him to run OMB.

 

"I probably would have found enough shortcomings in this to vote against it," Mulvaney said at the time.

 

On Wednesday, Mulvaney walked that back, telling the House panel he thought he had been asked not about Trump's budget, but about a narrower two-year spending-caps deal.

 

“I read in the newspapers this morning that someone reported that I wouldn’t support this budget if I were in Congress. That is absolutely false,” Mulvaney said. “I absolutely, without reservation, support this budget."

 

(Additional reporting by Richard Cowan; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh and Cynthia Osterman)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-02-15

[F4UCorsair]

If it serves notice, as it undoubtedly will,  on the vertically challenged twerp from North Korea, worth every cent, and more.

[Jingthing]

It would make the USA look weak, not strong.

So how many "trump" Florida golf weekends would pay for the "trump" self glorification parade? 

[ilostmypassword]

55 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

If it serves notice, as it undoubtedly will,  on the vertically challenged twerp from North Korea, worth every cent, and more.

Interesting to see you acknowledge in effect that what Trump has done so far in this respect hasn't been of much use.

[Becker]

55 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

If it serves notice, as it undoubtedly will,  on the vertically challenged twerp from North Korea, worth every cent, and more.

Yes, because Kim needs a "notice" that the US military is ready for him.

 

Seriously, I don't know why I even bother replying to some of these "challenged" (not vertically but...) posters.

[boomerangutang]

There are military parades, thousands, each year in the US.  They take place in towns and cities, and feature smiling old men in 1960's convertibles, and embellished with cheerleaders, confetti, babies, and other locals.  No problem with that, except for having to sweep up all the confetti and trash afterwards.

 

Trump's idea of a military parade in DC is ridiculous in comparison.  Everyone outside of the Oval Office will ridicule its posturing.  Note: whenever feds make an estimate of something's cost, it's alway costs 2 to 5 times more.   It's happening with the ridiculous wall, and....

 

Just maintaining that US's nukes aren't leaking costs $70 million/year. ....for a few people to walk around silos with geiger counters.

 

 

[Peterw42]

Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper for Donald and Kim just to meet and compare penis sizes ??

[Guest]

Poor Trump missed all the action in Vietnam and now he simply wishes to be part of the great military; somewhere where it's safe for him. 

[silverhawk_usa]

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper for Donald and Kim just to meet and compare penis sizes ??

Unlikely.  Trump would only enter a contest he could win.

[Becker]

1 hour ago, oilinki said:

Poor Trump missed all the action in Vietnam and now he simply wishes to be part of the great military; somewhere where it's safe for him. 

Are you sure standing up while the whole parade passes by won't negatively affect the man-child's painful bone spur condition?

 

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

If it serves notice, as it undoubtedly will,  on the vertically challenged twerp from North Korea, worth every cent, and more.

Yes and all the Trump adepts can wave their 2 little USA flags in the air shouting USA, USA, USA. Don't forget to dress in USA flag designed clothes too.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It would make the USA look weak, not strong.

So how many "trump" Florida golf weekends would pay for the "trump" self glorification parade? 

 

Trump's a millionaire, right??? (If you forget about all those past bankruptcies and tax issues...)

 

If he wants his Russia, China, North Korea style military parade so bad, let him pay for it himself out of pocket change...  I'm sure he's got a spare $10-$30 million laying around somewhere....

 

Or if not, he could always raise the rent/lease prices at Trump Towers, where all the foreign governments and business entities are paying influence peddling money to his company every month. Deal done, no problem.

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

33 minutes ago, Becker said:

Are you sure standing up while the whole parade passes by won't negatively affect the man-child's painful bone spur condition?

 

Sen. Tammy Duckworth had an interesting take on that lately....

 

Quote

 

She’s even tried beating Trump at his own nickname game, dubbing the president “Cadet Bone Spurs” – a reference to his Vietnam War draft deferment.
 

Duckworth, who lost both her legs and the partial use of her right arm when serving in the Iraq War in 2004, explained the origins of that moniker: “I just think it’s descriptive. I think bullies need to have a taste of their own medicine, and he is a bully. And you stand up to bullies.”
 

“He was a cadet in a prep school,” she said. “And the bone spurs thing, I just think it’s ironic that you have an injury that is so severe it keeps you out of serving your country, but you don’t remember which foot it was in, or whether it was in both feet.”

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/14/duckworth-i-cant-technically-take-maternity-leave-407279

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

Let's see if I can even begin to recap this:

 

We've got a guy who..

--cheated his way out of the Vietnam war

--has a checkered business past of bankruptcies and tax issues

--has been accused of assault and similar by something like 16 women

--his lawyer recently paid a $130,000 settlement to a porn star with whom Trump allegedly had an affair.

--he and/or others in his campaign and administration may have colluded with the Russians to influence the Presidential election, and then engaged in obstruction of justice in trying to hinder the investigation into that by firing the FBI director --  both of which are the subject of a current government investigation.

--He has a pretty well documented pattern and habit of being a liar and a bully who demeans anyone who tries to oppose him.

--He's a Republican in name who just put forward a federal budget that's going to balloon the federal deficit, while at the same time giving huge tax cuts to corporations.

 

And this is the guy Americans elected as President of the United States???

Edited February 15, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

government investigation.

--He has a pretty well documented pattern and habit of being a liar and a bully who demeans anyone who tries to oppose him.

--He's a Republican in name who just put forward a federal budget that's going to balloon the federal deficit, while at the same time giving huge tax cuts to corporations.

 

And this is the guy Americans elected as President of the United States???

[Silurian]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Yes and all the Trump adepts can wave their 2 little USA flags in the air shouting USA, USA, USA. Don't forget to dress in USA flag designed clothes too.

 

Donald has his outfit all picked out. Hmm, probably have to add a few more medals. Maybe that purple heart that someone gave him during the campaign.

 

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by Silurian

[Boon Mee]

Better to put that money towards building the southern wall. 

[smotherb]

6 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

If it serves notice, as it undoubtedly will,  on the vertically challenged twerp from North Korea, worth every cent, and more.

So, you really think KJU doesn't know how strong the US is? Tell how that parade is worth it to the next vet you see who cannot get the medical care he needs.

[spidermike007]

Though I stand 6'2", my equipment is small, and quite inferior for a man of my stature. Therefore, I have carried that insecurity, lack of self esteem, and lack of self love with me since I was a young man. Women have commented on my lack of prowess often. It is one of the reasons why I am such an incredible blowhard, and why I need to brag, and engage in bluster every time I open my foul mouth. As everyone knows, everything I say is false, so when I brag about things like my equipment, of course that is false too. Like my hands, everything else is small. I am constantly striving to make up for that in everything I do and say. 

 

So, this is one of the reasons I need a parade. I do not care how much it costs. I think you can tell by now, the deficit and balancing the budget mean nothing to me. Doing what is right for the nation means nothing to me. Always count on me to do the wrong thing. That is just who I am. I cannot help it. The French president had a very big parade. So, I need one too. Forget about the fact that their parade commemorated the anniversary of the year the US got involved in WWI. That is not important. History is not important. The only thing in this world that is important is me, and what I want and what I say. You need to listen. I am the preeminent authority and expert on everything.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

if this parade happens then Trump checks 9 out of 10 boxes for the criteria of a dictator. If he starts wearing a military uniform then he will be 10/10, wait for it.

 

 

[spidermike007]

4 minutes ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

if this parade happens then Trump checks 9 out of 10 boxes for the criteria of a dictator. If he starts wearing a military uniform then he will be 10/10, wait for it.

 

 

You gotta love it when a coward who got five deferments, excusing him from venturing into harms way, and fighting for his nation, drums up the fervor for the military. A uniform would be fitting, for this charlatan. Everything else about him is fake. Why not a uniform for a man who not only has never served his nation, but would wet his pants, at the very sound of live ammunition firing.

[speckio]

I can't help but be amused 

 

It doesn't surprise me that Donald Trump would want a military parade...

 

-It's flashy

-It's expensive

-It is pointless

-It's tacky

- It's a way to brag and inflate one's self-worth without any actual substance.

 

Haha this pretty much is definition of Donald Trump!

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by speckio

[tryasimight]

14 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

There are military parades, thousands, each year in the US.  They take place in towns and cities, and feature smiling old men in 1960's convertibles, and embellished with cheerleaders, confetti, babies, and other locals.  No problem with that, except for having to sweep up all the confetti and trash afterwards.

 

Trump's idea of a military parade in DC is ridiculous in comparison.  Everyone outside of the Oval Office will ridicule its posturing.  Note: whenever feds make an estimate of something's cost, it's alway costs 2 to 5 times more.   It's happening with the ridiculous wall, and....

 

Just maintaining that US's nukes aren't leaking costs $70 million/year. ....for a few people to walk around silos with geiger counters.

 

 

Links? 

[tryasimight]

12 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Yes and all the Trump adepts can wave their 2 little USA flags in the air shouting USA, USA, USA. Don't forget to dress in USA flag designed clothes too.

And made in the USA.

[tryasimight]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And you stand up to bullies.”

She can't 

[tryasimight]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Let's see if I can even begin to recap this:

 

We've got a guy who..

--cheated his way out of the Vietnam war

--has a checkered business past of bankruptcies and tax issues

--has been accused of assault and similar by something like 16 women

--his lawyer recently paid a $130,000 settlement to a porn star with whom Trump allegedly had an affair.

--he and/or others in his campaign and administration may have colluded with the Russians to influence the Presidential election, and then engaged in obstruction of justice in trying to hinder the investigation into that by firing the FBI director --  both of which are the subject of a current government investigation.

--He has a pretty well documented pattern and habit of being a liar and a bully who demeans anyone who tries to oppose him.

--He's a Republican in name who just put forward a federal budget that's going to balloon the federal deficit, while at the same time giving huge tax cuts to corporations.

 

And this is the guy Americans elected as President of the United States???

And apparently won the Presentation of the United States of America.... Must be doing something right 

[tryasimight]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

government investigation.

--He has a pretty well documented pattern and habit of being a liar and a bully who demeans anyone who tries to oppose him.

--He's a Republican in name who just put forward a federal budget that's going to balloon the federal deficit, while at the same time giving huge tax cuts to corporations.

 

And this is the guy Americans elected as President of the United States???

Apparently so.... Any more questions? The people have spoken.... Don't like it?  You'll have another chance to have your say in a couple of years. 

[tryasimight]

9 hours ago, smotherb said:

So, you really think KJU doesn't know how strong the US is? Tell how that parade is worth it to the next vet you see who cannot get the medical care he needs.

The vet thing is so overblown. Change the term to cannon fodder and get it into perspective. 

The government wants you to fight for their ideology but don't care about the consequences..... Been like this for hundreds of years. 

 

Proud vet..... Idiot in my book. Sure you may get a pension..why I do not know....i bet it won't  be around for ever. 

[tryasimight]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Though I stand 6'2", my equipment is small, and quite inferior for a man of my stature. Therefore, I have carried that insecurity, lack of self esteem, and lack of self love with me since I was a young man. Women have commented on my lack of prowess often. It is one of the reasons why I am such an incredible blowhard, and why I need to brag, and engage in bluster every time I open my foul mouth. As everyone knows, everything I say is false, so when I brag about things like my equipment, of course that is false too. Like my hands, everything else is small. I am constantly striving to make up for that in everything I do and say. 

 

So, this is one of the reasons I need a parade. I do not care how much it costs. I think you can tell by now, the deficit and balancing the budget mean nothing to me. Doing what is right for the nation means nothing to me. Always count on me to do the wrong thing. That is just who I am. I cannot help it. The French president had a very big parade. So, I need one too. Forget about the fact that their parade commemorated the anniversary of the year the US got involved in WWI. That is not important. History is not important. The only thing in this world that is important is me, and what I want and what I say. You need to listen. I am the preeminent authority and expert on everything.

Yes I agree... 

A lot of your posts seem to reflect this. 

Especially the interminable rants about the idiots who can't drive and then blame their shortcomings on the police

 

Edited February 15, 2018 by tryasimight

[tryasimight]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You gotta love it when a coward who got five deferments, excusing him from venturing into harms way, and fighting for his nation, drums up the fervor for the military. A uniform would be fitting, for this charlatan. Everything else about him is fake. Why not a uniform for a man who not only has never served his nation, but would wet his pants, at the very sound of live ammunition firing.

Where did you serve? 

1st command 2nd keyboard warrior? 

Or just mentioned in dispatches? 

Edited February 15, 2018 by tryasimight