UK ideas on post-Brexit ties are "pure illusion", EU's Tusk says

[billd766]

21 hours ago, Jane Dough said:

It is a pity they didn't listen to the more sensible "children". The younger voters would have insisted on remain. But then, they are far less racist. 

 

However many of those sensible "children" as most of us have been didn't bother to vote, either way. If they didnt't vote then don't complain about the result.

 

Can you offer an age range for those sensible "children" and an estimate of thier life experience?

 

Would you say that someone who is 18, just left school for university has more or less knowledge and life experience than someone of perhaps 65 and retired?

[Chomper Higgot]

I'm rather warming to Brexit.

 

Not that I in anyway support the madness, but when the government's own analysis clearly indicates that the areas of the UK that voted for Brexit will be worst hit by the consequences, I am at least comforted in the thought there is some justice in the forthcoming decimation of the Brexit voting local economies. 

 

Meanwhile Brexit voters keen to 'stick one on the elite' can rejoice as the post Brexit bonus of reduced worker rights, reduced environmental protections, reduced controls over banks and tax dodging shaft the workers and enrich the elite. 

 

'Deregulated' Britain is going to be a very 'interesting' place for anyone who's not already loaded. 

 

Enjoy.

 

 

[mfd101]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I'm rather warming to Brexit.

 

Not that I in anyway support the madness, but when the government's own analysis clearly indicates that the areas of the UK that voted for Brexit will be worst hit by the consequences, I am at least comforted in the thought there is some justice in the forthcoming decimation of the Brexit voting local economies. 

 

Meanwhile Brexit voters keen to 'stick one on the elite' can rejoice as the post Brexit bonus of reduced worker rights, reduced environmental protections, reduced controls over banks and tax dodging shaft the workers and enrich the elite. 

 

'Deregulated' Britain is going to be a very 'interesting' place for anyone who's not already loaded. 

 

Enjoy.

 

 

Oh, you are so cruel.

 

But it's hard not to laugh. Certainly, collective suicide is an interesting phenomenon ...

[citybiker]

I dislike this guy on sight, but he is correct.

 

As I said yesterday, it is time for the UK to stop this Brexit nonsense for a generation because there is no consensus in the UK. You may have voted to leave (what you DON'T WANT), but without a concurrent thought/plan on what you DO want, that vote is both meaningless and idiotic.

 

Swallow your pride, rejoin the EU, and if there is a desire have another referendum in twenty years with some kind of potential plan in place, then have it.

 

The U.K. Did swallow its pride, democratically and the majority spoke, the ex Polish PM is entitled to his opinion however like many other's ARE wrong.

 

The majority voted and do want out of the EU, its disappointing that many still fail to respect or grasp this fact along with it being very controversial the time is to just get on with it.

 

The EU had an 'opportunity' and arrogantly ignored the pleas, request from former PM David Cameron on his lame pathetic deal attempt now Brussel's are playing the political bully boy.

 

Quite frankly your post is substandard, meaningless and insulting.

 

 

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[aright]

22 minutes ago, citybiker said:

 

Quite frankly your post is substandard, meaningless and insulting.

 

 

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I agree. They still don't get it do they.

The EU's contempt for the Brexit vote is in keeping with the EU's contempt for democracy, viewed as an inconvenience which you have to give lip service to but in fact treat it as an irrelevance. No regard is  given to the EU populace because they are less important than the success of the Federalist European Project. They are merely a source of funds.

The cleverest totalitarian system is one where the citizens don't realise they live under a dictatorship

[Air Smiles]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I'm rather warming to Brexit.

 

Not that I in anyway support the madness, but when the government's own analysis clearly indicates that the areas of the UK that voted for Brexit will be worst hit by the consequences, I am at least comforted in the thought there is some justice in the forthcoming decimation of the Brexit voting local economies. 

 

Meanwhile Brexit voters keen to 'stick one on the elite' can rejoice as the post Brexit bonus of reduced worker rights, reduced environmental protections, reduced controls over banks and tax dodging shaft the workers and enrich the elite. 

 

'Deregulated' Britain is going to be a very 'interesting' place for anyone who's not already loaded. 

 

Enjoy.

 

The cherry on the cake will be the insurge of 3rd world immigrant, mainly Africans, who will come to fill the places of the EU workers that dont want to be in the UK any longer, except they wont be arriving hidden in the back of lorries, they will instead be invited and offered incentives by the UK government to prop up the stalled UK economy.

 

Bring on hard Brexit, it will be worth it just to see the look on the faces of UKIP/EDL devotees ....no doubt Muslims will get the blame.

Edited February 25, 2018 by Air Smiles

[beautifulthailand99]

On 2/24/2018 at 12:38 AM, markaoffy said:

Meaningless and idiotic post! A failing and outdated EU is what UK is Leaving! The EU And Tusk Want UK money,simple to understand !


Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect

Thanks for those considered words of wisdom. And for beautifully summing up most of the Brexit argument in three sentences. Now if only the adults would listen as well we would be off and running .

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Air Smiles said:

 

The cherry on the cake will be the insurge of 3rd world immigrant, mainly Africans, who will come to fill the places of the EU workers that dont want to be in the UK any longer, except they wont be arriving hidden in the back of lorries, they will instead be invited and offered incentives by the UK government to prop up the stalled UK economy.

 

Bring on hard Brexit, it will be worth it just to see the look on the faces of UKIP/EDL devotees ....no doubt Muslims will get the blame.

Is this Project Fear warming up again? 

[Air Smiles]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Is this Project Fear warming up again? 

 

Nah, It's Project Economic Reality responding to Project Misty Eyed Nationalistic Delusion. 

[nauseus]

8 minutes ago, Air Smiles said:

 

Nah, It's Project Economic Reality responding to Project Misty Eyed Nationalistic Delusion. 

Economics is the only argument that you dearies have and you'll be wrong there too. 

[Air Smiles]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Economics is the only argument that you dearies have and you'll be wrong there too. 

 

The UK economy is very important to most rational people.  And, it's 1 argument more than the Brexiteers have

 

There is no need to wait until the future to be proven right, we only have to look at the devaluation in the pound following the referendum to see the negative effects of Brexit are real.

[citybiker]

 
Nah, It's Project Economic Reality responding to Project Misty Eyed Nationalistic Delusion. 

Utter tosh.

It’s unknown territory and it’s causing many of the economists to scratch they’re head’s as Post result has gone against all known models.

Even more, a few of the credible economists admit many of the reports are flawed & are being bought to question.

The only thing misty eyed, is remainers & Brexit haters to continue they’re frothing rants....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Sir Dude]

UK is leaving and it will be fine. Get used to it snowflakes, as you will have to get out of your safe area, risk a 'trigger' subject that your safety blanket might not protect you from. Geez...it's like trying to leave the Borg collective in Star Trek for goodness sake. There was a time when people took risks and were rewarded for getting it right. Project Sneering Fear should shut the Fc*k up.

[Air Smiles]

13 minutes ago, citybiker said:

Utter tosh.

It’s unknown territory and it’s causing many of the economists to scratch they’re head’s as Post result has gone against all known models.

Even more, a few of the credible economists admit many of the reports are flawed & are being bought to question.

 

Can we have links to these "credible economists" ?

 

Please no links to daily express articles etc..

 

 

Edited February 25, 2018 by Air Smiles

[citybiker]

 
Can we have links to these "credible economists" ?
 
Please no links to daily express articles etc..
 
 

The BBC is just one of a few source’s that’s interviewed economists, research is at your fingertips as I’m enjoying the closing ceremony.

As apposed to The Mirror, Bloomberg & the Guardian?

You could always trawl through previous Brexit threads for links, mind you it’s all ongoing so the situation is fluid.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Air Smiles]

2 minutes ago, citybiker said:

The BBC is just one of a few source’s that’s interviewed economists, research is at your fingertips as I’m enjoying the closing ceremony.

As apposed to The Mirror, Bloomberg & the Guardian?

You could always trawl through previous Brexit threads for links, mind you it’s all ongoing so the situation is fluid.

 

It's up to you to provide evidence for your statements, you seem to have plenty of time to reply so why cant you provide a link?

 

Ether provide Supporting links to "credible economists"  admitting  "many of the reports are flawed & are being bought to question" ....or it simply didn't happen.

[Sir Dude]

Even the hopelessly biased liberal agenda driven BBC has done a report about the City of London finding a way round things and looking to the future...and it's about competing with New York, not the EU...especially after the corp tax reductions in the US recently. They may be a bunch of b(w)ankers but when it all boils down to it, they are pragmatic and good at self-preservation. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43088856

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Even the hopelessly biased liberal agenda driven BBC has done a report about the City of London finding a way round things and looking to the future...and it's about competing with New York, not the EU...especially after the corp tax reductions in the US recently. They may be a bunch of b(w)ankers but when it all boils down to it, they are pragmatic and good at self-preservation. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43088856

People calling the BBC liberal either don't know the meaning of the word or are extreme right wingers for whom everyone conservative is a liberal.

Edited February 25, 2018 by stevenl

[Air Smiles]

8 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Even the hopelessly biased liberal agenda driven BBC has done a report about the City of London finding a way round things and looking to the future...and it's about competing with New York, not the EU...especially after the corp tax reductions in the US recently. They may be a bunch of b(w)ankers but when it all boils down to it, they are pragmatic and good at self-preservation. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43088856

 

That article is about The UK financial services industry not the UK economy, also it's completely unrelated to the previous claim made by soibiker: 'credible economists admitted many of the reports are flawed & are being bought to question'.

[Sir Dude]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

People calling the BBC liberal either don't know the meaning of the word or are extreme right wingers for whom everyone conservative is a liberal.

People that think the BBC is fair and balanced and doesn't have an agenda are hopelessly lost.

[Air Smiles]

8 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

People that think the BBC is fair and balanced and doesn't have an agenda are hopelessly lost.

 

So the implications for your BBC article/link are what?

[Sir Dude]

Zzzzzz...didn't read my post properly, never mind.

 

Edited February 25, 2018 by Sir Dude

[Air Smiles]

I'm just confused why you're posting an article from a news outlet you think is corrupt?

Edited February 25, 2018 by Air Smiles

[Grouse]

4 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Oh, you are so cruel.

 

But it's hard not to laugh. Certainly, collective suicide is an interesting phenomenon ...

Is "lemmings" an acceptable collective noun?

[Sir Dude]

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Is "lemmings" an acceptable collective noun?

I think, as a bipartisan comment, the collective noun regarding either or side or a general comment for idiots is a 'thicket' of such people.

[Sir Dude]

Double post....due to lame Internet connection.

Edited February 25, 2018 by Sir Dude

[citybiker]

 
It's up to you to provide evidence for your statements, you seem to have plenty of time to reply so why cant you provide a link?
 
Ether provide Supporting links to "credible economists"  admitting  "many of the reports are flawed & are being bought to question" ....or it simply didn't happen.

Or simply didn't happen?

Words fail me..

Sent from my SM-A500FU using Tapatalk

[Air Smiles]

35 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Even the hopelessly biased liberal agenda driven BBC has done a report about the City of London finding a way round things and looking to the future...and it's about competing with New York, not the EU...especially after the corp tax reductions in the US recently. They may be a bunch of b(w)ankers but when it all boils down to it, they are pragmatic and good at self-preservation. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43088856

 

Lets drill down into the detail and de-construct your article:

 

What is the article about:

Quote

Financial services is the UK's biggest export sector, employs 1 million people and pays 12% of all UK taxes. Like it or loathe it, its importance to the UK economy is enormous.

 

25% of which comes from the EU

Quote

Miles Celic, the Chief Executive of financial lobbying group, TheCityUK, explained: "Of the business done in the City, 25% is UK domestic, 25% is EU related and 50% is international.

 

So, what is the plan after Brexit?

The below is smoke and mirrors rhetoric which essentially says the UK can have any rules they like as long as the conform to existing EU rules, lol:

Quote

 

A new idea has emerged which many in London are pinning their hopes on. It's already been given a number of snappy titles.

"Enhanced equivalence", "managed divergence" or "mutually recognised regulation" all essentially mean the same thing, that UK and EU rules are allowed to diverge by continual agreement thrashed out at regular meetings between regulators from both jurisdictions.

 

 

What does the UK government think about this plan?

Quote

The Chancellor of the Exchequer Phillip Hammond got behind this idea at his Mansion House speech last June as did Dexeu Secretary David Davis at a speech at the UK headquarters of Swiss bank UBS.

 

But, more importantly what does the EU think?

Quote

But what does the EU think? Its Chief negotiator Michel Barnier has been clear - there is no special deal for the City.

 

[Sir Dude]

Nice try...but fail. We are done here alt for someone who hasn't the sand to post on their main, haha. Good day.

Edited February 25, 2018 by Sir Dude

[Air Smiles]

1 minute ago, citybiker said:

Words fail me..

 

You might be choking on your imaginary economic reports that show sunshine and blueskies for the UK economy after Brexit?