anon789561 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) On 2/25/2018 at 2:04 AM, sanemax said: I do find that angle to be annoying : What they should say is : He thoroughly enjoyed his years taking *whatever he was taking* and that was all he cared about , took the drugs because he selfishly enjoyed being stoned i have to disagree with you on this one mate. and i'm not being argumentative. my old man did 23 years in the army with exemplary service and left as a colour sergeant. what he told me about, would refuse to tell anyone else about when he was a kid being brought up in children homes around lancashire and stuff in the army would shock most people. my Dad was loved and respected by all that knew him but alcohol a few years after he left the army and couldn't get used to civilian life sent him to an early death at sixty. when i used to visit him i heard the nightmares and screaming and i won't have anyone tell me he was selfish because he was not. he became a serious addict. we tried everything. he wouldn't say a word to anyone but me and made me promise to keep my mouth shut. i feel guilty everyday. but anyway. i don't think addiction is always selfish is my point. *when i say addiction, he was president of his local british legion and would down ten pints there from the morning and a couple of bottles of large whiskey sometimes 3 and hardly ate once he got home until his body just gave up. and i'm not looking for sympathy just telling you one my experiences of addiction Edited February 26, 2018 by Happy enough *add a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 9:04 AM, sanemax said: I do find that angle to be annoying : What they should say is : He thoroughly enjoyed his years taking *whatever he was taking* and that was all he cared about , took the drugs because he selfishly enjoyed being stoned Your post displays your complete ignorance about addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, canthai55 said: Your post displays your complete ignorance about addiction. I just feel that people who are addicted to something, should stop doing it and then they will not be addicted anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, sanemax said: I just feel that people who are addicted to something, should stop doing it and then they will not be addicted anymore if only it was that simple mate. i think it's mental health issues really. people can get help but many refuse for whatever reason. i don't believe for example after a year on heroin, a heroin addict actually wants to be on it anymore. and there's kind of scientific addiction where the body craves it like nicotine. i don't know, i'm no doctor. but yeah if they stopped doing it they may stopped being addicted however there is an argument that you are only ever an ex smoker but inside the addiction remains. same with those that give up alcohol and go on the wagon. lot's would after many years off the booze still refer to themselves as recovering alcoholics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Off topic posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 26/02/2018 at 1:38 PM, Artisi said: Don't include me in the collective "we", thank you. Ok pal. Consider yourself well and truly omitted from my use of the collective term "we". No need to thank me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I understand the op's dilemma. I have been struggling with issues relating to alcohol for over 30 years in Thailand. Wherever I go, I just can't seem to find a good beer at a reasonable price. Old timers might remember Kloster beer. It was sold in an attractive dark green bottle and tasted pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Obviously, the guy needs some serious mental medical assessment and therapy. Until then, he is a threat to society, no matter in which country. Edited February 27, 2018 by observer90210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 There are some people who prison and therapy won't ever work. They are better off drinking and drugging. Legalize it. Provide cheap and unadulterated these poor unfortunates are then rendered harmless. Lower cost to society than jailing them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 25/02/2018 at 2:19 PM, vogie said: Don't you dare lose your sense of humour, you must be a laugh a millenium. ???? You enjoy chuckling at tired old stereotypes , I prefer more subtle forms of wit , each to their own eh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said: You enjoy chuckling at tired old stereotypes , I prefer more subtle forms of wit , each to their own eh . The problem is perhaps you have become too subtle and nobody knows you are being witty eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, vogie said: The problem is perhaps you have become too subtle and nobody knows you are being witty eh. Quite possibly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 27/02/2018 at 4:02 PM, sanemax said: I just feel that people who are addicted to something, should stop doing it and then they will not be addicted anymore So stop posting then. I bet you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Justfine said: So stop posting then. I bet you can't. You won the bet . Beers for you for ten years . Gotta buy them yourself though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 1:02 PM, sanemax said: I just feel that people who are addicted to something, should stop doing it and then they will not be addicted anymore Addiction is defined as a chronic, relapsing brain disease that is characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use, despite harmful consequences. † It is considered a brain disease because drugs change the brain—they change its structure and how it works https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/drug-abuse-addiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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