Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

[nontabury]

3 hours ago, dunroaming said:

I would think any day to day problems with Brexit will come after December 2020.   That is when the reality kicks in

That’s a pessimistic view. More to the point, we shall regain our sovereignty.

Our laws will not be made in Brussels but in Westminster, reflecting the needs of the British people. the authority of E.U. law in the U.K will end. In addition we will  take control of who is allowed to enter the U.K. Think possitive.

 

 

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, nontabury said:

That’s a pessimistic view. More to the point, we shall regain our sovereignty.

Our laws will not be made in Brussels but in Westminster, reflecting the needs of the British people. the authority of E.U. law in the U.K will end. In addition we will  take control of who is allowed to enter the U.K. Think possitive.

 

 

Our sovereignty? our laws? we will take control...? You are obviously one in a group of powerful MP's or are you just Joe Bloggs who eats his bowl of porridge but thinks he makes a difference ?

[simoh1490]

Shock and horror!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/21/brexiteers-furious-dutch-company-poised-win-contract-make-iconic/

 

Blue British passports will be made in the EU because they're £50 million cheaper to make, everyone will have their very own bit of the EU to carry around as a reminder....too funny.

[simoh1490]

10 minutes ago, nontabury said:

That’s a pessimistic view. More to the point, we shall regain our sovereignty.

Our laws will not be made in Brussels but in Westminster, reflecting the needs of the British people. the authority of E.U. law in the U.K will end. In addition we will  take control of who is allowed to enter the U.K. Think possitive.

 

 

Evoking the Churchillian spirit works every time, until the thrill wears off and reality smacks citizens in the face.

[nontabury]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Our sovereignty? our laws? we will take control...? You are obviously one in a group of powerful MP's or are you just Joe Bloggs who eats his bowl of porridge but thinks he makes a difference ?

I live in hope, which is far better than knowing, that if we were to remain in the hated E.U. Things would and will get worse.

[nontabury]

3 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Evoking the Churchillian spirit works every time, until the thrill wears off and reality smacks citizens in the face.

You sound like Neville Chamberlin.

[simoh1490]

2 minutes ago, nontabury said:

I live in hope, which is far better than knowing, that if we were to remain in the hated E.U. Things would and will get worse.

"the hated EU"...do you mean our hoped for future trading partners? You need to change your tune my lad otherwise they wont want to buy our cornish pasties and sticks of Bridlington rock.

[simoh1490]

1 minute ago, nontabury said:

You sound like Neville Chamberlin.

Do try hard to drag yourself into the 21st century, it can only help matters!

[simoh1490]

A great picture of Nigel Farage and two fishermen emptying a box containing half a dozen fish into the Thames in protest, the caption reads, "whilst it's said that in London you're never more than six feet away from a rat, the same is true of Nigel Farage whenever there's bad news to be had". A true Brexiteers protest, arf arf.

[soalbundy]

43 minutes ago, nontabury said:

I live in hope, which is far better than knowing, that if we were to remain in the hated E.U. Things would and will get worse.

How do you 'know' that? Not all 'hate' the EU even though we may disagree with the way some things are managed,rather like the Scots and the Welsh may not agree with the way the UK is run but they don't cut their ties and run. 

[tebee]

41 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

A great picture of Nigel Farage and two fishermen emptying a box containing half a dozen fish into the Thames in protest, the caption reads, "whilst it's said that in London you're never more than six feet away from a rat, the same is true of Nigel Farage whenever there's bad news to be had". A true Brexiteers protest, arf arf.

New Statesman had a good take on it and how it mirrrored the whole brexit process.

 

A botched hollow gesture with no contingency plan.

 

Honestly, it’s as if they don’t things through, isn’t it? It’s as if they prefer grand gestures to actually planning for real-life consequences. Funny, that.

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/03/brexiteers-disastrous-fishing-protest-thames-sums-brexit-perfectly

 

[aright]

1 hour ago, nontabury said:

You sound like Neville Chamberlin.

 

1 hour ago, simoh1490 said:

Do try hard to drag yourself into the 21st century, it can only help matters!

OK! Lets try one of the Chuckle Brothers then.......the little one.

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

New Statesman had a good take on it and how it mirrrored the whole brexit process.

 

A botched hollow gesture with no contingency plan.

 

Honestly, it’s as if they don’t things through, isn’t it? It’s as if they prefer grand gestures to actually planning for real-life consequences. Funny, that.

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/03/brexiteers-disastrous-fishing-protest-thames-sums-brexit-perfectly

 

Great stuff ?

[nauseus]

31 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Great stuff ?

Just shows the ridiculous state of the nation. Why should a private boat hire have anything to do with TFL?  

[soalbundy]

34 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Great stuff ?

shouldn't Farage get arrested for pollution? fly tipping? Not that the UK was ever bothered by pollution until the EU.

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

shouldn't Farage get arrested for pollution? fly tipping? Not that the UK was ever bothered by pollution until the EU.

What about all the fish that are dumped daily due to idiotic EU policy? 

[soalbundy]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What about all the fish that are dumped daily due to idiotic EU policy? 

Who dumps it and where? not in the Thames I hope.

[Airbagwill]

17 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What about all the fish that are dumped daily due to idiotic EU policy? 

So that is a reason to leave?

[Airbagwill]

Sovereignty my a.......

Once UK has left the EU it will have far less control over it's own destiny.

We have had a taste of things to come in the response to the alleged Russian activities in UK recently.

No one will give a flying fig what the UK thinks, they will just do what they please.

[tebee]

21 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What about all the fish that are dumped daily due to idiotic EU policy? 

 

3 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

So that is a reason to leave?

The EU have got rid of that policy  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-21598367

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Who dumps it and where? not in the Thames I hope.

Read up on it.

[simoh1490]

23 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What about all the fish that are dumped daily due to idiotic EU policy? 

Isn't it Farage's job as an MEP to help overturn such policy, perhaps if he devoted more of the past ten years towards doing just that, rather than his non-stop campaigning to stand in the footlights, perhaps the policy would now be different. The man simply hasn't done the job he's being paid to do.

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, tebee said:

 

The EU have got rid of that policy  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-21598367

This policy was phased in slowly and only partially; it still allows crews from several nations to dump fish rather than return all the way back to their home ports.

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Isn't it Farage's job as an MEP to help overturn such policy, perhaps if he devoted more of the past ten years towards doing just that, rather than his non-stop campaigning to stand in the footlights, perhaps the policy would now be different. The man simply hasn't done the job he's being paid to do.

MEP's or the EU Parliament as a body have little power to change any policy or laws. He soon learned that. That's why he has been so anti EU. I never liked his style and manner much but he has been consistent. 

[nauseus]

15 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

So that is a reason to leave?

Only one of many.

[aright]

34 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What about all the fish that are dumped daily due to idiotic EU policy? 

Stop carping! 

[soalbundy]

5 minutes ago, aright said:

Stop carping! 

He doesn't know his plaice or he is moaning on porpoise but he is whaling for nothing

[nauseus]

Just now, soalbundy said:

He doesn't know his plaice or he is moaning on porpoise but he is whaling for nothing

Am I to be the sole defender of British fish and fishermen? Or are you just trawling? 

 

 

[tebee]

19 minutes ago, nauseus said:

This policy was phased in slowly and only partially; it still allows crews from several nations to dump fish rather than return all the way back to their home ports.

Yes, but the fishermen are doing it because they want to - it's not the EU forcing people to do anything.

[aright]

6 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

He doesn't know his plaice or he is moaning on porpoise but he is whaling for nothing

He can afford to, he's worth a few squid