Thai students score less than half by average in ONET exam

[webfact]

Thai students score less than half by average in ONET exam

By Thai PBS

 

 

Mathayomsueksa 6 students have scored less than 50 out of 100 marks by average for all subjects in ONET (Ordinary National Education Test) examination for 2017 educational year.

 

The average scores for each subject is as follows: 49.25 marks for Thai language subject; 34.70 marks for social science, religious and cultural affairs subject; 28.31 for English; 24.53 for mathematics and 29.37 for science.

 

Mr Samphan Panpruek, director of The National Institute of Educational Testing Service, said Monday that the students’ average performance in Thai and English languages last educational year was better than a year earlier although the average score for all subjects was less than half the 100-mark score.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thai-students-score-less-half-average-onet-exam/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-04-03

[Samui Bodoh]

Sooooooo

 

The average Thai student failed in every subject at school.

 

There is a simple equation for the benefit of education in a country; if a country has a good education system, it will have a good future (whatever that may be). if a country does not have a good education system, then it will not have a good future.

 

Again; the average Thai student failed in every subject at school.

 

God help Thailand.

 

[Mango Bob]

I have seen questions from past test for English.  They should be firing those who come up with the test.  I am sure other sections are no better.

[Get Real]

Unfortunately there are too many factors that complete a soup of disaster in this area. That the education programme, and the level of knowledge and common sense to solve problems doesn´t even exist in the techers mindset we already know. That´s only one part of the soup, though.

 

The country has an ingrained lack of disciplin, and an even greater lack of respect for human beeings, lifes and moral values.

 

As for the disciplin, that starts already at a very early age. Here you can, in almost all areas, see children from the age of 2-3 years old. They are running free in the street, only to be taken care of by their 1 or 2 year older siter or brother. Where is the parents? Oh, I can tell you! They are deeply connected to their mobile phone screen, checking up everything that goes on in their little virtual kingdom. In other words, they have totally forgot about what the children needs from start, in form of a stable family with moral values and disciplin in all areas needed.

 

When the brain is mush from start, the knife cuts very deep.

[greenchair]

My son is fine. He passed in every subject. From the 49 kids split between 2 classes, only 3 passed. He did not attend a cram school because we could not afford it. But we did things differently to other parents. 

1. No telephone games. 

2. Sleep before 9 o'clock. 

3. We studied half an everyday at home. 

4. We studied together during holidays. 

5. Healthy home cooked food. 

6. We played a lot of boardgames. 

So basically, I spent a lot of time with my son. 

All the children that passed have a similar routine to the above. 

 

[greenchair]

The 2 greatest contributers to the failure of thai students are unlimited access to Internet games and extreme lack of sleep. 

Their brains are literally being eaten away. 

It's a national health crisis !!!!

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, greenchair said:

The 2 greatest contributers to the failure of thai students are unlimited access to Internet games and extreme lack of sleep. 

Their brains are literally being eaten away. 

It's a national health crisis !!!!

no different in western nations

 

[Prairieboy]

47 minutes ago, webfact said:

24.53 for mathematics

No wonder every shop owner needs a calculator for the simplest transaction. 

[halloween]

My daughters had to learn 3 languages - Thai, English and some mongrelised mixture their so-called English teacher inflicted on them.

[Samui Bodoh]

If (God forbid!) I were given the use of Article 44 for a day, I would fire the top 50 people in the Ministry of Education as well as the top 10 people in each provincial education office. The people at the very top and their immediate subordinates have created an education system that does not work and that is beyond repair by them.

 

Next, I would swallow that old Thai pride and ask countries in the region to lend Thailand some of their education experts to reform the system; Singapore, S Korea, Taiwan and Japan would be on the top of that list.

 

Following that, I would empower headmasters of schools to be able to hire and fire staff, BUT I would also tie their compensation to the performance of the students. There is a danger of schools simply 'teaching to the test' under this system, but the state of Thai schools is so desperate that I would risk it.

 

Finally, I would give parents (nationwide) a ruddy good talking to regarding the education of their children and the role of parents within the system.

 

After the completion of these initial steps, I would really get at reforming the system!

 

Do I think any of this is going to happen? Sadly, no.

 

The phrase "sticking one's head in the sand" is reverberating around my head...

 

 

Edited April 2, 2018 by Samui Bodoh
Lack of coffee

[ezzra]

That's not fair, had they were tested for their skills in texting, FB, Line,

Twitter, instagram and other trivial social media platforms ,

they would have got top marks...

[YouYouYou]

Blame the teachers, blame the parents, blame how society is today with all our gadgets. But is could just be as simple that the tests are unrealistic given the benchmark ....just sayin.

[mok199]

but on the bright side ,Thailand is #1 at road carnage, and the party is just getting started..Let the good times roll....

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Get Real said:

Unfortunately there are too many factors that complete a soup of disaster in this area. That the education programme, and the level of knowledge and common sense to solve problems doesn´t even exist in the techers mindset we already know. That´s only one part of the soup, though.

 

The country has an ingrained lack of disciplin, and an even greater lack of respect for human beeings, lifes and moral values.

 

As for the disciplin, that starts already at a very early age. Here you can, in almost all areas, see children from the age of 2-3 years old. They are running free in the street, only to be taken care of by their 1 or 2 year older siter or brother. Where is the parents? Oh, I can tell you! They are deeply connected to their mobile phone screen, checking up everything that goes on in their little virtual kingdom. In other words, they have totally forgot about what the children needs from start, in form of a stable family with moral values and disciplin in all areas needed.

 

When the brain is mush from start, the knife cuts very deep.

Did you know that Thai kids have to sweep the floor in the yard, so they clean what the messed up. They start with singing the national anthem. They be taught to respect their teachers (not techers).

Have a look at the kids in your own country first before you sprout a lot of nonsense. 

[stereolab]

1 hour ago, AYJAYDEE said:

generalize much? lol

 

The OP is spot on with his comments, a tour around our local villages will confirm what he says. We are in daily contact with a number of local families, only one is a proper nuclear unit, with Mother and Father both present. 

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, stereolab said:

The OP is spot on with his comments, a tour around our local villages will confirm what he says. We are in daily contact with a number of local families, only one is a proper nuclear unit, with Mother and Father both present. 

so what? our experience is the opposite of that. thats why I said he generalized

 

[greenchair]

1 hour ago, AYJAYDEE said:

no different in western nations

 

The western nations are not failing in every subject in abysmal proportions. 

Especially in the subjects of science, math and their own language. 

I prefer to stay with the topic at hand, which is focused on thailand. 

[anon467848]

I guess Prayut will have to put his dream of Thailand being compared to Singapore on hold for a while longer, perhaps another 50 years...

[anon467848]

Just as well there wasn't a test for geography, they would get a big fat zero in that subject...

[HLover]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

earlier although the average score for all subjects was less than half

Mum always said, "never be average".

[AYJAYDEE]

10 minutes ago, greenchair said:

The western nations are not failing in every subject in abysmal proportions. 

Especially in the subjects of science, math and their own language. 

I prefer to stay with the topic at hand, which is focused on thailand. 

my point being then your reasons are suspect bnecause this happens in the other countries too:  unlimited access to Internet games and extreme lack of sleep. 

[RichardColeman]

Who needs schooling and education when nepotism and bribery is rife in the country ? 

[taichiplanet]

if the plan was to to keep the general populace uneducated so they can be controlled more easily, then it is probably working!

[LazySlipper]

2 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

I have seen questions from past test for English.  They should be firing those who come up with the test.  I am sure other sections are no better.

 

Problem is that it is written by Thais. They think they have more skills than a native QUALIFIED English teacher. 

 

or,

 

Maybe they can't afford to pay for a temporary work permit for a boxida (falang) to write the test!

[Emster23]

"It takes a village to make a village idiot" -me

[Cadbury]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai students score less than half by average in ONET exam

The important thing they are NOT saying about the ONET exam is what the actual average of the marks was. Too embarrassing perhaps?

From the ONET website:

 

The O-NET is a high-stake and mandatory examination. The final score which determines promotion to the next grade is based on the O-NET score and the score obtained on school-based assessments held during the academic year; the O-NET contributes 20% and school-based assessments contribute 80% of the final score. In the near future, the O-NET will contribute 50% of the final score. 

 

So on the present system the school-based assessment (80%) is the ultimate decider of whether the child passes.....which they all do! That in itself nicely covers up the failure of the schooling system. Every child gets a certificate!

 

[teatree]

2 hours ago, greenchair said:

My son is fine. He passed in every subject. From the 49 kids split between 2 classes, only 3 passed. He did not attend a cram school because we could not afford it. But we did things differently to other parents. 

1. No telephone games. 

2. Sleep before 9 o'clock. 

3. We studied half an everyday at home. 

4. We studied together during holidays. 

5. Healthy home cooked food. 

6. We played a lot of boardgames. 

So basically, I spent a lot of time with my son. 

All the children that passed have a similar routine to the above. 

 

I like the board game idea.  Develops strategy, critical thinking and planning - things which are lacking in Thai society.  The kind of board games available today are a far cry from Monopoly or Cluedo, and are so much more engaging and fun.  There is a vast selection of games available with all sorts of themes and mechanics. 

 

It does seem that board games are increasing in popularity in Thailand given the number of board game cafes that are springing up.  Let's hope it isn't just a passing fad as I really believe it trains the intellect.

[AYJAYDEE]

The 2015 OECD ratings dont show Thailand to be  much worse than many other countries:

 

https://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisa-2015-results-in-focus.pdf

[Get Real]

56 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Did you know that Thai kids have to sweep the floor in the yard, so they clean what the messed up. They start with singing the national anthem. They be taught to respect their teachers (not techers).

Have a look at the kids in your own country first before you sprout a lot of nonsense. 

Sorry for the spelling mistake! Very relevant indeed.
Yep, sure, cleaning up after the mess is done. How would it be to know that you throw the garbage in designated places instead of making a mess? Almost same like later in university when somebody is getting stabbed to death by rival gangs. What should they du then? Bring him back to life, by cleaning up the mess?

I can look at my country, and I will see sort of same, but that does not mean I have to agree with it. I just choosed to comment on the part of the world I reside in at this particular time.

Appearently, that wasn´t a lot of nonsense. Even if you choose to think that. One reaction leads to another, which always start a foreseen event of happenings.

[darksidedog]

A bunch of posts, Off Topic, Bickering Baiting and Trolling have all been removed.

This topic is about the not very good results in the school tests. Please stick to it.