Justgrazing Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Damrongsak said: Apparently had a power band about 2,000 RPM wide? Off - On - Off. Raw horsepower. Hey, it's dirt track. Let the kid worry about handling. Yep bit Wild West back then .. Those things are part speedway bikes on acid needing the most judicious of throttle applications when power sliding off bends lest you wander too far into the deadly zone of the power band after which everything goes topsy turvy .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Justgrazing said: Just for you mate .. Here's another one no-one will to ride unless you have big dosh. Another Honda engineering out the box project V4 32 valve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted July 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 Then there's my favourite...…………..!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, xylophone said: Then there's my favourite...…………..!!!! I understand motorbikers liking 2 stokes but was so glad of the development of 4 stoke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Here's another one no-one will to ride unless you have big dosh. Another Honda engineering out the box project V4 32 valve. Ahh yes the NR750 .. There was one of these hanging around in Pattaya 'bout 10 yrs ago , the only other one I've seen in the flesh was in a dealership showroom .. Thanks man .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Here's another one no-one will to ride unless you have big dosh. Another Honda engineering out the box project V4 32 valve. 2 other super rare 70's birds from the house of Yamaha were the GL750 and RZ rotary .. The rotary was developed around the same time as Suzuki's RE5 rotary but it seems Yamaha were reluctant to push ahead with production for various reasons .. The GL750 was a 4 cyl 2 stroke that Yamaha helped develop a fuel injection system for and was to have been their headboy in the big bike class up against the Suzook GT750 and Kawasaki's mental KH750 but Yamaha it is said sensed the wind of change was blowing against big 2 strokes and chose instead to develop a 4 stroke , the TX750 .. A choice that is now seen as the correct one as both the Kawa and Suzook were dropped by the mid'dish to late 70's .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) This one was exciting. Edited July 15, 2018 by Vacuum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdrokit Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 A 1961 Ducati Diana 250. I was 14 years old. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Vacuum said: This one was exciting. And worth a fortune in Britain now especially UK registered first bikes ( rare as hen's teeth ) but even top drawer US imports demand big money .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 R1 is hard to beat Used to commute to bkk on it daily Felt like everything else was going in slow motion late at night on viphawadi rangsit Had to sell it or I would have gotten killed, too hard to ride it slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Justgrazing said: 2 other super rare 70's birds from the house of Yamaha were the GL750 and RZ rotary .. The rotary was developed around the same time as Suzuki's RE5 rotary but it seems Yamaha were reluctant to push ahead with production for various reasons .. The GL750 was a 4 cyl 2 stroke that Yamaha helped develop a fuel injection system for and was to have been their headboy in the big bike class up against the Suzook GT750 and Kawasaki's mental KH750 but Yamaha it is said sensed the wind of change was blowing against big 2 strokes and chose instead to develop a 4 stroke , the TX750 .. A choice that is now seen as the correct one as both the Kawa and Suzook were dropped by the mid'dish to late 70's .. Yes Honda never liked 2 stokes I think at the time they got involved with the flow but 2 stokes had to go as in MotoGP, and IMHO opinion good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Never a road bike though seems to have raced in a road race? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Yes Honda never liked 2 stokes I think at the time they got involved with the flow but 2 stokes had to go as in MotoGP, and IMHO opinion good. Indeed Sir .. Honda resisted the rampaging 2 strokes of the 60/70's staying true to the 4 stroke principle but in racing as the NR500 of the late 70's showed it was an uphill struggle culminating in big H thereselves building stroker GP bikes like the truly evil NSR's .. But since the Motogp class returned to 4 strokes Honda are again arguably the best on the grid .. Personally the CBX1000 of the late 70's layed out what Honda could do not withstanding the mostest biggest selling ve-hickle of all time by a long way is also a Honda 4 stroke .. The Cub .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted July 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 The Honda CB750 maybe more than any other motorcycle from Japan was the one that signalled the beginning of the end of the Brit bike industry as up until this came out Japan was considered a small bike maker who couldn't make big stuff .. Classic Brit motor industry indifference that also pervaded the car industry at the same time .. This baby blew that myth away totally .. 5 speed , electric-start , front disc , super-smooth ride , Honda reliable , a looker with some real cool colours available and cheap compared to some of the competition .. Probably one of THE bikes of the 20th century .. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Justgrazing said: The Honda CB750 maybe more than any other motorcycle from Japan was the one that signalled the beginning of the end of the Brit bike industry as up until this came out Japan was considered a small bike maker who couldn't make big stuff .. Classic Brit motor industry indifference that also pervaded the car industry at the same time .. This baby blew that myth away totally .. 5 speed , electric-start , front disc , super-smooth ride , Honda reliable , a looker with some real cool colours available and cheap compared to some of the competition .. Probably one of THE bikes of the 20th century .. Yabbut. Was it the most EXCITING motorcycle YOU have ever ridden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: Yabbut. Was it the most EXCITING motorcycle YOU have ever ridden? At the time it was for me, my first proper motorcycle that I never had any trouble with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luk AJ Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 The first “heavy” motorbike I bought was the Yamaha VMAX 1200. Super fast but super dangerous. Didn’t had a good road feeling. I am still alive because I sold it before it could kill me.In Thailand 2001, I had a 1000 CBR fantastic machine but since we are not allowed to enjoy the highway not much fun left and I swapped it for a BMW 650 enduro. Didn’t like the vibration (1 cylinder) today I have no bike anymore, got scared and that’s IMO the moment to quit. I enjoy cars now :)Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Justgrazing said: The Honda CB750 maybe more than any other motorcycle from Japan was the one that signalled the beginning of the end of the Brit bike industry as up until this came out Japan was considered a small bike maker who couldn't make big stuff .. Classic Brit motor industry indifference that also pervaded the car industry at the same time . For me I think it was the intro of the Honda 250cc CB as that's when I compared the British oil-leaking clunkers to these gleaming newcomers that two of my friends bought. The Hondas ticked over like sewing machines, whereas the others sounded like steam trains at rest! I saw a type of clinical beauty in those, which I couldn't see in the old outdated AJS, Royal Enfield and some Triumphs, or my brother-in-law's Velocette Venom come to that. Norton did try with a new 400cc electric start, but too late. They are cheap and nasty and won't last was the outcry at the time...………... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 For me, this one heralded the beginning of the end of the British motorcycle industry. Honda Dream C77 1960-1967 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundas Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said: Yabbut. Was it the most EXCITING motorcycle YOU have ever ridden? For me at that time on my CB750, yes. It wallowed a bit but in other ways it was flawless. Smooth, reliable, and good power at highway speeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, lvr181 said: For me, this one heralded the beginning of the end of the British motorcycle industry. Honda Dream C77 1960-1967 Forget what us English rockers use to call em, it was insulting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, xylophone said: They are cheap and nasty and won't last was the outcry at the time...………... Haha yea I recall all the dyed in the wool traditional bikers saying the same .. As they reached for another tube of hermetite gasket sealer .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: Yabbut. Was it the most EXCITING motorcycle YOU have ever ridden? Sorry Guzz' I got carried away wandering down memory lane with that one .. The first time I rode a CB back in the 70's after getting into bikes via angry buzzing 2 strokes the 750 was a revelation .. Smooth , fast ( for the time ) well built and with 4 exhausts pointing out the back .. But I retain a fondness for the madness strokers of the 70's even though they ain't really practical anymore .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, lvr181 said: For me, this one heralded the beginning of the end of the British motorcycle industry. Honda Dream C77 1960-1967 The CB72 250cc was the one I was meaning and it looked just like this...……..my mistake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 hours ago, lvr181 said: For me, this one heralded the beginning of the end of the British motorcycle industry. Honda Dream C77 1960-1967 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Forget what us English rockers use to call em, it was insulting. Hideous? 4 hours ago, xylophone said: For me I think it was the intro of the Honda 250cc CB as that's when I compared the British oil-leaking clunkers to these gleaming newcomers that two of my friends bought. The Hondas ticked over like sewing machines, whereas the others sounded like steam trains at rest! I saw a type of clinical beauty in those, which I couldn't see in the old outdated AJS, Royal Enfield and some Triumphs, or my brother-in-law's Velocette Venom come to that. Norton did try with a new 400cc electric start, but too late. They are cheap and nasty and won't last was the outcry at the time...………... Yep. Sewing machines not proper engines - correct. Cheap yes. In hindsight, nasty - no. But reading the above, you and me are on different sides of the fence. No problem, i'm generally always the odd one out....? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, xylophone said: For me I think it was the intro of the Honda 250cc CB as that's when I compared the British oil-leaking clunkers to these gleaming newcomers that two of my friends bought. The Hondas ticked over like sewing machines, whereas the others sounded like steam trains at rest! I saw a type of clinical beauty in those, which I couldn't see in the old outdated AJS, Royal Enfield and some Triumphs, or my brother-in-law's Velocette Venom come to that. Norton did try with a new 400cc electric start, but too late. They are cheap and nasty and won't last was the outcry at the time...………... Yes for sure Honda were already signalling their intent during the 60's with the CB pressed frame bikes and of course the ubiquitous Cub but the Brit' bike industry continued to believe the notion that Japan only made small bikes and couldn't do the bigger stuff which is why the debut of the CB750 in the late 60'd not only stunned but flat footed them also and from that moment on they were playing catch trying invigorate old designs like the Commando , Bonneville and Trident .. As I'm sure you know anyway Kawasaki were ready to debut a 750cc 4 cyl bike in the very late 60's but Honda holeshotted them with the CB 750 so Kawasaki went away and redesigned their bike into the apocalyptical Z1 which was then in production by '72 , 3 yrs after the Honda debuted .. The Brit' bike industries response was to put electric starters on engine's that weren't designed for them and already dodgy electrical systems that couldn't handle them .. It took 'till nearly the mid 70's for the Commando with its pre war design engine to get an electric starter ( which never worked that well ) .. And by the time they had managed to rehash the Trident into the half decent T160v the damage was already done and a terminal tail spin into bankruptcy and oblivion was almost inevitable .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, Justgrazing said: CB750 in the late 60'd not only stunned but flat footed them also and from that moment on they were playing catch trying invigorate old designs Bonneville Yeah but who copied who. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Justgrazing said: It took 'till nearly the mid 70's for the Commando with its pre war design engine to get an electric starter ( which never worked that well ) .. I seem to recall a Norton 400cc bike with an electric start sometime in the late 60s? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, xylophone said: I seem to recall a Norton 400cc bike with an electric start sometime in the late 60s? Indeed they did but that in itself was a bit of a pig in a poke that suffered reliability issue's that they never learned from when it came to the 750's and later 850 electric start during the 70's .. just at the time they needed it with Japan storming ashore with good reliable cheap big ( ger ) bikes .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: Hideous? Nah it was more like beginning with faggot f f c s bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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