Non-O 90 days expires Sunday but flying out Monday morning

[pj123]

I am on a non-O marriage visa and my 90th day since my last entry is Sunday. I have a flight to China on Monday morning at 00:30 so I will check-in and go through immigration on Sunday night. I think this will be OK but just thought I would check here if I should expect any issues. 

[elviajero]

No problem as you will exit (go through passport control) before midnight.

 

FYI. If you were to exit after midnight you would have a one day overstay, but would not be charged the 500 baht fine if leaving from BKK/DMK. One day overstay fines are waived. You might, however, get an overstay stamp.

[Bob12345]

5 hours ago, elviajero said:

No problem as you will exit (go through passport control) before midnight.

 

FYI. If you were to exit after midnight you would have a one day overstay, but would not be charged the 500 baht fine if leaving from BKK/DMK. One day overstay fines are waived. You might, however, get an overstay stamp.

Different experience here, although it happened 5 years ago.

 

I was in the same situation with a flight leaving at 2.30AM. 

Went through immigration and was told i would be on a 1-day overstay as my flight would leave after midnight.

Paid the 500 baht fine and got a red stamp in my passport.

 

Going through immigration is not the same as leaving the country; as soon as the plane leaves the ground they see you as having left the country (flight of 23:55 counts as leaving today although you probably still sit on the tarmac of the airport).

 

Edit: not sure i had to pay the 500 baht fine anymore, maybe back then they did not allow the first day fine being waived

[phuketrichard]

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".... Going through immigration is not the same as leaving the country; ..."

Once ur STAMPED out of a country,  your out

if u think otherwise, try and go back on the same visa

[Peabody]

I was once on a flight that was supposed to arrive at 2330, but arrived after 0000. They stamped me in for the day it was supposed to arrive.

[Scooby and Puppy]

Pj123,  If you knew your 90 day report fell on the Sunday, and knew you were flying out Monday, why didn’t you arrange to do your report on the Friday? if you were unsure of what might occur. 

Even if the flight was a last minute thing, surely you checked your 90 day date long time before, to see if it fell on a weekend, or even during Songkran...hmm!

 

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, Scooby and Puppy said:

Pj123,  If you knew your 90 day report fell on the Sunday, and knew you were flying out Monday, why didn’t you arrange to do your report on the Friday?

He has a 90 day entry that is ending on Sunday. He is not asking about doing a 90 day report at immigration.

[Scooby and Puppy]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

He has a 90 day entry that is ending on Sunday. He is not asking about doing a 90 day report at immigration.

?

[natway09]

I once got zapped by a grumpy Immigration Lady for just that.

She says it is the time that the flight is due to leave NOT when you get stamped out 

I stamped out 23.13, flight 0135, had to pay one day

so Phuket richard you comments are not as they see it

[ericthai]

10 hours ago, natway09 said:

I once got zapped by a grumpy Immigration Lady for just that.

She says it is the time that the flight is due to leave NOT when you get stamped out 

I stamped out 23.13, flight 0135, had to pay one day

so Phuket richard you comments are not as they see it

You shouldn't have had to pay!  Was this in BKK? BKK the 1st day is waived, it's been this way for as long as I've been in Thailand which is 25+ years. I have overstayed a few times anywhere from 1-4 days due to delays, flights changes etc. Never had to pay for the first day. If more than 1 day then you have to pay for all days. 

[pj123]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not worried about the fine but I don't want the overstayed stamp. I cannot change the flight date as I am travelling on business with two other people. 

[elviajero]

17 hours ago, Bob12345 said:

Going through immigration is not the same as leaving the country; as soon as the plane leaves the ground they see you as having left the country (flight of 23:55 counts as leaving today although you probably still sit on the tarmac of the airport).

Actually, you don't leave the country until you've left Thai airspace. If the plane took off and crashed, which country would it have crashed in? 

 

However, from an immigration point of view you leave when the departure stamp is stamped in your passport. They do not switch dates on the departure stamp based on peoples flight time. They will change the date stamp once around midnight, however, it's not always bang on midnight. 

[BuckBee]

I done this loads of times, last being 2 weeks ago at swampy (5:30am departure). guy at immigration counter presses buzzer, higher rank officer scribbles a note next to usual exit stamp (no red overstay stamp) and that it you on your way. Was little more curt about it that time but no bother if you respectful .

 

[jacko45k]

23 hours ago, Bob12345 said:

Different experience here, although it happened 5 years ago.

 

 

Same same here also some years ago, my flight was not long after midnight and they counted that day, and gleefully fined me, as that made 2 days!

[Bob12345]

6 hours ago, elviajero said:

Actually, you don't leave the country until you've left Thai airspace. If the plane took off and crashed, which country would it have crashed in? 

 

However, from an immigration point of view you leave when the departure stamp is stamped in your passport. They do not switch dates on the departure stamp based on peoples flight time. They will change the date stamp once around midnight, however, it's not always bang on midnight. 

If you read my comment well, you would have seen we say the same thing in the first sentence. We are both saying that they (immigration) sees you "leaving the country" while you are still on the tarmac or in Thai airspace.

 

Regarding your second part: my own experience tells otherwise and several people have told the same here already.

They do switch dates based on flight times: your official departure time is your "leaving time" just as your official landing time is your "entering time". 

[pj123]

A bit late but I would like to update about what happened when I departed Thailand. Nothing. Immigration officer made no comment. I went through Fast Track security/immigration. Did that make a difference? I don't think so but maybe.