janclaes47 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Dustdevil said: You're so right. The notion is absolutely absurd. Victim-blaming in a gang rape doesn't impress me at all. The victim also identified the rapists, so how some can blame the police for a setup is also very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, colinneil said: Did they do it or not? They are Burmese case closed, serious jail time for them. They said it was consensual, so they certainly shagged the girl. Its the consensual bit that needs to be clarified.. 2nd thoughts on her part maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Not much of a re enactment pic. Pointing to the outside karsi could of made a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said: They said it was consensual, so they certainly shagged the girl. Its the consensual bit that needs to be clarified.. 2nd thoughts on her part maybe. Well if your A&$%S is on the line & had very little in life looking at 20 yrs, wouldn't you try it on. As you mentioned just needs to be clarified & after watching the police make them do the re enactment on the news, I have a funny feeling it might not go their way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmh2009 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 yeah when they say Burmese, Laos, Cambodian here you really need assess the situation again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said: They said it was consensual, so they certainly shagged the girl. Its the consensual bit that needs to be clarified.. 2nd thoughts on her part maybe. Yes i agree with you, but my point was they are Burmese, so in the eyes of Thai justice they are guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, colinneil said: Yes i agree with you, but my point was they are Burmese, so in the eyes of Thai justice they are guilty. I have to agree with you there colinneil , as soon as a headline says ' Burmese arrested for .............' don't need alleged , guilty as charged . One two , one two , mind yer fingers clang ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 hours ago, BEVUP said: That's an interesting question Must of been a whole 20 mtrs away behind the shop (maybe also an external rear door for the shop as well ) Wouldn't one think it was strange that the whole 3 of them followed her to the toilet Where were the sounds of screaming or a struggle before the time they had to (maybe ) gag her So during the struggle how long would it of taken 3 men to rape her ( maybe longer then 5 minutes ) At that stage it seems like her boyfriend wasn't worried ..maybe he had three drinks lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted April 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2018 16 hours ago, observer90210 said: Not sure on this issue, but if a girl starts getting drunk, socializing (not flirting of course) with strangers by a roadside shop, in an unfamiliar country, that to when her boyfriend is present....what is the outcome to expect ? No judgement on this particular issue, just a comment on a behavioural pattern, that can lead to misunderstandings and a dirty end ! . . . what is the outcome to expect ? Are you serious? Do you imagine any woman out with her boyfriend would choose to be gang-raped by three total strangers in a toilet? I can almost hear Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein applauding you from the wings. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingjock Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Something fishy here, they said she agreed, why no yelling, screeming etc etc maybe the booze got the better of her????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 It can’t be the Burmese they are always innocent must be the mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Some women do take along time in the bathroom and if the bathroom was located behind the restaurant the boy friend never would have seen them follow. Very sad that she did not fight them probably already had victim written all over her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 hours ago, colinneil said: Did they do it or not? They are Burmese case closed, serious jail time for them. You mean you don't think the court will just fine them up B40,000, as allowed by law and let them off the up to 20 year sentence because they had exemplary records as construction workers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 It seems rather odd that the victim would have agreed to consensual sex with three construction workers in a toilet while her boyfriend was waiting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted April 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jingjock said: Something fishy here, they said she agreed, why no yelling, screeming etc etc maybe the booze got the better of her????? Perhaps they held their hands over her mouth. There were three of them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryofcrete Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Mickmouse1 said: Ozie or S Asian? amI clear ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Could be a cultural thing. She thought she was having a friendly chat over a drink, but from the little I know of the Burmese culture, any woman who did that there WOULD be looking for more. An American probably wouldn't have known that. As to whether it was forced though.................? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemaker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, Dogmatix said: It seems rather odd that the victim would have agreed to consensual sex with three construction workers in a toilet while her boyfriend was waiting. Sounds like a Script for a Porno Movie, although i never watch it myself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: . . . what is the outcome to expect ? Are you serious? Do you imagine any woman out with her boyfriend would choose to be gang-raped by three total strangers in a toilet? I can almost hear Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein applauding you from the wings. Apparently my dear poster, you are totally unaware of the behavioural patterns linked to causality (more commonly referred as cause and effect), so it will be a bit hard to carry on this conversation with you. Thank you for your tabloid references nevertheless... Edited April 28, 2018 by observer90210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 19 hours ago, BEVUP said: That's an interesting question Must of been a whole 20 mtrs away behind the shop (maybe also an external rear door for the shop as well ) Wouldn't one think it was strange that the whole 3 of them followed her to the toilet Where were the sounds of screaming or a struggle before the time they had to (maybe ) gag her So during the struggle how long would it of taken 3 men to rape her ( maybe longer then 5 minutes ) At that stage it seems like her boyfriend wasn't worried Means you run after Your girlfriend/wife if she dont show up after 5 min in toilet...??... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 20 hours ago, petermik said: She went to the restroom where the 3 Burmese allegedly followed and "gang raped" her......so what was the boyfriend doing during this time and was he not alarmed when the men all left at a similar time to her.....strange I assume it is a mens restroom as well at the same location means it not strange that it is a mixed trafic to and from the restrooms. I assume the bf were busy With his phone chatting in line or surfing on internet which is pretty normal nowadays.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soistalker Posted April 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) First off, there's a lot of naive tourists who think that part of their glorious first experience overseas is to become friendly wnd familiar with the locals. I have seen white chicks hugging people they don't even know like it is some wonderful connection they've just made with Somchai the local Thai guy or the fruit lady. This is idiotic. Secondly, lengthy conversations with foreign construction workers from an even poorer country than the poor country you are visiting is a stupid thing to get into. And as the boyfriend, it is my responsibility to shut the sh!t down. If they are eyeing up my girlfriend, they are either going to get punched or probably I'd insist we walk away. Last, the boyfriend sat there whilst the girlfriend was followed to the bathroom by all three? The family of that woman should make sure she never sees him again or he is under the ground. Edited April 28, 2018 by soistalker 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Max66 Posted April 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, soistalker said: First off, there's a lot of naive tourists who think that part of their glorious first experience overseas is to become friendly wnd familiar with the locals. I have seen white chicks hugging people they don't even know like it is some wonderful connection they've just made with Somchai the local Thai guy or the fruit lady. This is idiotic. Secondly, lengthy conversations with foreign construction workers from an even poorer country than the poor country you are visiting is a stupid thing to get into. And as the boyfriend, it is my responsibility to shut the sh!t down. If they are eyeing up my girlfriend, they are either going to get punched or probably I'd insist we walk away. Last, the boyfriend sat there whilst the girlfriend was followed to the bathroom by all three? The family of that woman should make sure she never sees him again or he is under the ground. That was the most realistic and on point explanation . I see it too ,these backpacking girls fawning all over anyone local. Completely blind to the message they're sending. And yeah the boyfriend is a waste but that's because the guys have the same half assed naive mentality as the idiotic females. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, observer90210 said: Apparently my dear poster, you are totally unaware of the behavioural patterns linked to causality (more commonly referred as cause and effect), so it will be a bit hard to carry on this conversation with you. Thank you for your tabloid references nevertheless... You can run but you can't hide your pathetic attempt at victim blaming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 what was the boyfriend doing in the meantime? I suppose the 3 weren't as fast as "Speedy Gonzales"? So it would have taken a while. And why she was not screaming? Or lock the door? Very strange. We don't know if there is any evidence from any side...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 She is american, so probably not too smart and most probable lying... Too many so-called facts do not add up: - 3 guys gang rape her in a new world record in a tiny space - bf story is hard to believe (I assume he is american as well) - No sounds?!? (screaming out of fear/pleasure) - No fighting from girl?!? It just doesn't add up.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, JulesMad said: bf story is hard to believe (I assume he is american as well) Where did you find this as I haven't come across it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, BEVUP said: Where did you find this as I haven't come across it yet It is an assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 22 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: All I can say is, I had many tourist visits to Thailand as an American before moving here. And of all those, I can't ever remember one time where I ended up sitting at a mini-mart/grocery store drinking and socializing (?) with three Burmese construction workers, or any Burmese construction workers for that matter. I must have missed that part of the tourist routine. Not unusual for Thais drinking out front near roadside to invite you to join them, happened to me many many times when working in Bangkok and also in my village now. Burmese construction workers I cant say but wouldnt imagine any different especially if they have been here a while. Maybe I just have a friendly face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Did anybody notice the last sentence of the Khao Sod article? "Khaosod English does not reveal the identity of potential victims of sexual violence. " ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.png.3b3332cc2256ad0edbc2fe9404feeef0.png)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now