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2 hours ago, falangjim said:

I hate this news. The Chinese are slowly taking over our condo complex. There are certain times we will not visit our local 7-Eleven due to the hordes of Chinese tourists running around like chickens with their heads cut off. They spit, smoke, and are a nuissance.  Why have they been rolled out the red carpet to dwell here?  Are there that many rich Chinese merchants? What's wrong with staying in Hong Kong? Grrrrrrr...

Wait till they start crapping on your doorstep. 

What a shame..... Thailand needs more Chinese tourists like a hole in the head.

The boss does not see that Alibaba will do what Alibaba wants to do to make more money for themselves at the cost of destroying what little  is worth visiting in Thailand ,,,, The Almighty $$$$$$$ rules

Myself and wife like break from home  2/3 hour drive to a nice beach hotel we know. When my wife calls to book they will give us dates when they have a break from chinese tour groups. They do understand why we like to be their when it's eu tourists and not chinese.

Well some of the girls are nice. But what about the million shitloads of these hapless Chinese males smoking cigarettes all day. Boo.

Just what Thailand needs like a hole in the head.......40 more thieves !

Might be a good business idea to have a hotel with a no Chinese policy. Westeners would flock in.

The poster who spelled out the difference between Amazon and Alibaba was absolutely correct and why I refuse to buy anything Chinese unless absolutely necessary. Now, the US Government needs to do the same. The Chinese are purchasing American debt at an alarming rate and have a huge surplus of dollars to spend.  

Alibaba is basically funded by the Chinese Government and their  goal is simply to colonize the World in order to ensure that there are places for the Chinese to travel and invest and keep the public docile so the Chines Communist Party and its minions remain elite.

Thailand will get very little out of this deal-look what zero dollar tours have done- there is no trickle down.  The Thai Government is selling it's very soul to get a fast influx of more tourists  in the hope that Alibaba will expand and share its technology with the Thais.  It won't share and will gain control over Thailand's most important industries.

 

As much as I dislike Donald Trump- he is right about the Chinese- they have been keeping their markets closed; 'stealing' foreign technology; manipulating it's currency and needs to be stopped. The World needs to  stop providing higher education to the Chinese; stop allowing them to invest in critical industries; stop selling any military equipment to them and stop allowing them to purchase debt and stop buying any product made in China and force the product to be made in the country of origin of the technology. Yes- the prices will go up but that is the price that must be paid to save a countries sovereignty.

9 hours ago, YetAnother said:

news i cringe at; i live on the edge of one of the most well-known tourist areas in thailand; Already we have marked off no-go areas on our normal living areas due to the chinese invaders

let me guess, Chiang Mai, if so I used to live there and loved the place, I moved to Hua Hin after 3 yrs.

I was back a few months ago and went to the Sunday market street by Thapai Gate, as soon as I got there I turned away as the Chinese were entering the street in droves and walking over the top of anything in there path.

What a shame I loved that relaxing Sunday stroll around.

Chiang Mai has changed a lot, not the same anymore, sadly the bus loads of Chinese are turning up in Hua Hin, storming into restaurants , dumping butts everywhere and leave with crap littered all over the tables.

 

I know the behaviour of these corrupt tours run by crooked tour operators, as I used to drive tours and was a first hand observer of the shocking way they act. 

6 hours ago, smew said:

Good move Thailand. More Chinese to vandalize Buddhist places and defecate in taxis and other public places !! 

That might be so, but after the flang bar room crapper we can't shout to loud, these days!

that's all Thailand needs, more chinese "tourist" washing their feet in face basins and taking a dump on the streety!  both of these stories have been in thai visa so I am not spreading rumors! well, they asked for it!

 

5 hours ago, the guest said:

Many of my European friends are now bypassing Thailand, as it's just become a melting pot of greed, catering for their new found Chinese friends, the Thai-ness has long gone.

 

The allure of new money, has taken the country from being a beautiful paradise, to one of pure commercialism, and in the process has clogged the whole system.

 

The costs also have increased to an unjustifiable levels, which makes Thailand very expensive in comparison to other countries in South-East Asia. 

I understand. But where are they going to go? Laos and Cambodia are even more under the Chinese thumb. Beautiful, pristine Laos is being strip-mined.  And Myanmar is still stuck with China. That leaves Vietnam, Philippines, and Malaysia. Malaysia is a tender box, just waiting for ethnic conflict b/w Chinese and Malays to erupt again someday. Philippines are Mexico-East, an almost failed state succumbing to crime and irrational leaders. So, Vietnam it is, I guess, although Vietnam is becoming very expensive.

Went to the Grand Palace over the summer. Will never go back! Dangerous numbers of tourists mostly Chinese

35 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said:

That might be so, but after the flang bar room crapper we can't shout to loud, these days!

Probably a Russian, one of China's allies.

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5 hours ago, overherebc said:

Myself and wife like break from home  2/3 hour drive to a nice beach hotel we know. When my wife calls to book they will give us dates when they have a break from chinese tour groups. They do understand why we like to be their when it's eu tourists and not chinese.

I just spent 4 days in Bangkok in a 4 star hotel with the wife. Overrun with Chinese tourists....big buses etc. Very nice and polite people without exception. Many  (not all)spoke conversational English as did the French and Italians too. The Indian couples seemed nice too.

3 hours ago, thaimelody said:

Went to the Grand Palace over the summer. Will never go back! Dangerous numbers of tourists mostly Chinese

What do you define as a dangerous number of tourists?

So long as they keep to the existing main tourist areas, it will just make them more crowded.  Perhaps the novelty will wear off in a few years and they will decide it is not worth the trip, they don't plan on learning to speak Thai or want to stay here aside from the few entrepreneurial mostly young.  There is a lot to see in China still and that is where they know how to really make money.

Bad news all round!!!!

On 4/29/2018 at 6:50 AM, Samui Bodoh said:

 

I can't really blame Jack Ma and/or the Chinese; when a country like Thailand offers up the entire e-commerce industry for sale, I'd buy it too if I had the cash.

 

Thailand, when you sell the digital infrastructure of your economy, you are also selling your actual economy. It'll take a few years before the entire purchase/take over is complete, but it is almost impossible to reverse once it really begins.

 

I hope Prayut and his cronies enjoy their thirty pieces...

 

And I strongly suggest that Thai kids be given crash courses in Mandarin; they'll need to be able to talk with their overlords.

 

It is so sad to see a once fine country go down this path, but I guess the lessons of Cambodia and Burma have to be learned all over again...

 

 

 

 

oh u did not know that chinese is already beeing teached at the "better"thai schools ,our 6 year old is on its second year now!

soon all the abusive shit happening in the bars are no longer a privacy to the farang drunk tourists, the chinese will take that over too

if my country did not have a shitty climate and a shitty tax climate , i would be gone al ready

i did business on ali baba and china for 10 years, after beeing cheated for 10 years i transferred my  business to taiwan 

they look the same but are so pleasantly different, good luck to all thai dummy's who are as ussuall willing to give up anything as long as U give them enough bath's

as far as I know from my friends at Phuket and that area. Chinese have package tours, they maximum have one dinner out. They do not like to pay to the local tourist agencies or so. I think Thais should  pay more efforts to cope with the new tourist challenge.

Did the Book says something on Yellow Peril?5555555

4 hours ago, wazzupnow said:

oh u did not know that chinese is already beeing teached at the "better"thai schools ,our 6 year old is on its second year now!

What is wrong in this? There is a good portion of the population speaking Chinese.

Just wondering where all those Chinese speaking Thai tourist guides are going to come from.

I should imagine that Alibaba will be able to come to an arrangement which allows them to use their own guides.

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oh u did not know that chinese is already beeing teached at the "better"thai schools ,our 6 year old is on its second year now!

I think it is part of the national curriculum.

Makes sense really, when you consider that China is by far the largest and most influential country in the region.

Much the same idea as British children learning French and/or German.

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I wish them good luck.

 

Thailand deserves what it sows.

5 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

I wish them good luck.

 

Thailand deserves what it sows.

As does every nation in the world that we are totally destroying.

We can't stop the total destruction that is coming due to our own greed for the better life, whatever that is.

Technology and scientific advances won't fix it, don't put your faith in them. It might be a bang or it might be a whimper but it's on the cards.

Just now, overherebc said:

As does every nation in the world that we are totally destroying.

We can't stop the total destruction that is coming due to our own greed for the better life, whatever that is.

Technology and scientific advances won't fix it, don't put your faith in them. It might be a bang or it might be a whimper but it's on the cards.

 

 

Thailand is near the head of the pack.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

Thailand is near the head of the pack.

 

 

 

Nowhere is perfect that's true.

Spent my life all over the world since I was 18 and now at my age I can't really see a difference anywhere. Everywhere you go people are so proud to point out what they have that is better than what you have.

I have what I need, roof over my head, a wife who thinks the way I do, and she's a really good cook, like me, two nice dogs and no offspring to worry about.

I try very hard not to get serious about things and even on TV most of my posts are tongue in cheek, unless I'm answering an obviuos pratt. ?

Let Thailand have all the tourists they want and make the money from them, why should Thailand be different from any other country in that respect.

22 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Nowhere is perfect that's true.

Spent my life all over the world since I was 18 and now at my age I can't really see a difference anywhere. Everywhere you go people are so proud to point out what they have that is better than what you have.

I have what I need, roof over my head, a wife who thinks the way I do, and she's a really good cook, like me, two nice dogs and no offspring to worry about.

I try very hard not to get serious about things and even on TV most of my posts are tongue in cheek, unless I'm answering an obviuos pratt. ?

Let Thailand have all the tourists they want and make the money from them, why should Thailand be different from any other country in that respect.

 

 

Agreed and the country/government deserves what it gets..