SURVEY: Do you agree with cancelling the Iran Nuclear Agreement?

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Other than the topic not being about Hezbollah - you claimed that Hezbollah was not linked to terrorist attacks in Europe, facts indicate otherwise (as was linked above). Regarding Hezbollah's objectives - I don't know that killing foreign citizens out of the country does much to protect southern Lebanon, and the same could be said about Murdering a Prime Minister.

 

The rest of your nonsense ("expansion projects") is just the standard deflections. The fact stands that Iran breached NPT commitments, and that both the sanctions and the Iran Deal were international efforts.

The facts?

No one, including the CIA, has been able to show that Iran had not respected the deal.

 

Instead of focusing on Hezbollah and Iran supposed, and certainly debatable, crimes, you'd better give a close look at America's multiple atrocities: how many civilian deaths in Irak and for what? How many civilian deaths in Libya and for what?

 

Where are the sanctions for these terrible crimes?

 

America is involved in wars all over the world, when it is not busy organizing a coup, such as in Iran in 1953, or more recently in Ukraine.

 

Denying as much as you want won't change anything...the world is opening its eyes and discovering the new America.

 

Everything that doesn't fit your fabricated picture of reality is dismissed as nonsense...a reaction that is actually the same as that of the soviets when they were faced with facts they didn't like: deny, dismiss and focus the attention on something or someone else.

 

As a matter of fact, America is so afraid of the truth today that it imprisons dissidents, which it calls traitors...just like the soviets!

 

What a shame for America that a dissident such as Snowden must seek refuge in Russia, thinking that a few decades ago it was the Russian dissidents that were seeking refuge in America!

 

 

Edited May 14, 2018 by Brunolem

[Morch]

28 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

The facts?

No one, including the CIA, has been able to show that Iran had not respected the deal.

 

Instead of focusing on Hezbollah and Iran supposed, and certainly debatable, crimes, you'd better give a close look at America's multiple atrocities: how many civilian deaths in Irak and for what? How many civilian deaths in Libya and for what?

 

Where are the sanctions for these terrible crimes?

 

America is involved in wars all over the world, when it is not busy organizing a coup, such as in Iran in 1953, or more recently in Ukraine.

 

Denying as much as you want won't change anything...the world is opening its eyes and discovering the new America.

 

Everything that doesn't fit your fabricated picture of reality is dismissed as nonsense...a reaction that is actually the same as that of the soviets when they were faced with facts they didn't like: deny, dismiss and focus the attention on something or someone else.

 

As a matter of fact, America is so afraid of the truth today that it imprisons dissidents, which it calls traitors...just like the soviets!

 

What a shame for America that a dissident such as Snowden must seek refuge in Russia, thinking that a few decades ago it was the Russian dissidents that were seeking refuge in America!

 

 

 

There was no claim, in my posts, that there's been proof of a meaningful breach by Iran of the current agreement's terms. The reference was to the Iran's past actions, which led to the current state of things. You're either deflecting or having some comprehension issues.

 

I did not focus on Hezbollah, nor did I bring it into the discussion. That you can't handle your wide brush statements on Hezbollah challenged and debunked is, as one president would have said, "sad".

 

As much as you (and others) would like it to be so, the topic is not about the US's supposed sins. Implying that I deny this or that is yet another bogus claim. And the one who can't address the topic without constant forays into a host of other issues, is you.

[Scott]

I strongly suggest people stay on topic and post in a civil manner. 

 

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[Stargeezr]

I think with the badly formed agreement that Obama shamefully signed, being scrapped by Donny Trump, the other countries can maybe have a better time inspecting the sites in Iran that was being restricted. This may have been a good move in the USA being able to show what a bad agreement that Iran was able to get the previous bunch of people to sign. Hopefully Iran will behave and stay peaceful and honest.

Geezer

[Catoni]

5 hours ago, Brunolem said:

 

Instead of focusing on Hezbollah and Iran supposed, and certainly debatable, crimes, you'd better give a close look at America's multiple atrocities: how many civilian deaths in Irak and for what? How many civilian deaths in Libya and for what?

 

Where are the sanctions for these terrible crimes?

 

America is involved in wars all over the world, when it is not busy organizing a coup, such as in Iran in 1953, or more recently in Ukraine.

 

Denying as much as you want won't change anything...the world is opening its eyes and discovering the new America.

 

Everything that doesn't fit your fabricated picture of reality is dismissed as nonsense...a reaction that is actually the same as that of the soviets when they were faced with facts they didn't like: deny, dismiss and focus the attention on something or someone else.

 

As a matter of fact, America is so afraid of the truth today that it imprisons dissidents, which it calls traitors...just like the soviets!

 

What a shame for America that a dissident such as Snowden must seek refuge in Russia, thinking that a few decades ago it was the Russian dissidents that were seeking refuge in America!

 

 

 

 "The facts?

"No one, including the CIA, has been able to show that Iran had not respected the deal."

 

      55555....  Yeah.... you're correct.

      With the west having to give 24 day notice of inspection, and Iran refusing inspections in military areas....  not hard to show they are "respecting" the deal... huh ? ?

Inspectors with the International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations organization tasked with monitoring Iran's nuclear facilities, have not requested access to military sites since the agreement went into effect, according to experts monitoring the process.

"Americans will not be allowed to inspect the military bases," said Mohammad Bagher Nobakht, a member of Iran's nuclear implementation committee, according to state television.

For many Iranians — including those who support the nuclear deal — keeping inspectors out of military facilities is a point of national pride.

"It's our country, and any country's defense systems should be off-limits to international inspections," said Susan Saderi, a 44-year-old newspaper employee in Tehran. "I'd be unhappy if the government allowed inspections, even secretly."

Jaafari Mohammadi, a middle-aged motorcycle deliveryman, said access to the Parchin military complex outside Tehran was "a red line" for Iranians."We cannot compromise on our military sites," Mohammadi said. "It's our honor, or our wife — we cannot give access to others."

[Scott]

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