EU still unhappy with Thai fishing

[webfact]

EU still unhappy with Thai fishing

By The Nation

 

 

The European Union has kept a yellow flag for Thailand over the country’s illegal, unreported and unregulated (IUU) fishing problems, a source at the Agriculture and Cooperatives Ministry revealed on Wednesday. 

 

The source said Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister Grisada Boonrach was already informed of the results from the EU’s review of Thailand’s performance. 

 

A delegation from the EU visited Thailand last month to discuss anti-IUU efforts. 

 

“Two issues behind the EU decision to not upgrade Thailand’s anti-IUU ratings are fleet management and laws enforcement,” the source said.

 

The EU apparently found discrepancies in boat categorisation at the Marine Department and expects to see strict laws enforcement, efficient management of administrative orders and clear timeframes. 

 

The source said the EU wanted Thailand to achieve visible progress within four months. 

 

Since 2015, Thailand has been slapped with a yellow flag for “shortcomings in its fisheries monitoring, control and sanctioning systems”. If the EU were to issue a red flag, Thailand’s seafood exports would be banned by EU members.

 

Deputy Prime Minister General Chatchai Sarikulya, who oversees a subcommittee on solutions to IUU, said the Fisheries Monitoring Centre (FMC) needed to upgrade its operations and staff. 

 

“I have also assigned the Command Centre for Combating Illegal Fishing to send five staff to the FMC to help train and monitor the workforce there over the next three months,” Chatchai said. 

 

He said he also instructed the legal authorities, from the police to public prosecutors and courts, to boost coordination and efficiency. 

 

“I expect to get clear and positive results by July,” Chatchai said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30345591

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-05-17

[YetAnother]

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

“I have also assigned the Command Centre for Combating Illegal Fishing to send five staff to the FMC to help train and monitor the workforce there over the next three months,” Chatchai said. 

so are the trainers qualified ? thailand continually fails to see that the rest of the world judges them on Results, not just talk and promises, which thailand is known for

[Chang_paarp]

20 minutes ago, webfact said:

 

“Two issues behind the EU decision to not upgrade Thailand’s anti-IUU ratings are fleet management and laws enforcement,” the source said.

 

Law enforcement means the authorities have to be seen to be doing their jobs, that means actually enforcing the laws and prosecuting those who break them. This will cause heartache to some personal cash-flow projections.

[grumbleweed]

25 minutes ago, webfact said:

“I have also assigned the Command Centre for Combating Illegal Fishing to send five staff to the FMC to help train and monitor the workforce there over the next three months,” Chatchai said

Danger! Cunning Plan In Progress

5 staff to do in 3 months what all the various departments have failed to do in 3 years.

The only take-away from this is that delusion has no limits. Maybe it has its own department

 

[mok199]

lawlessness and shamlessness,in a once amazing kingdom...sad

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Should be a Red flag and a total ban of their seafood in EU.

[Lungstib]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The EU apparently found discrepancies in boat categorisation at the Marine Department and expects to see strict laws enforcement, efficient management of administrative orders and clear timeframes. 

Clearly not something about to happen in a country where all of the above are famously missing.

[lovelomsak]

So they get a yellow flag big deal it is still business as usual so why bother.

 Give them a red flag and stop buying the sea food .Until that happens it is just noise. 

 Yellow flag does nothing it is just show.

Edited May 17, 2018 by lovelomsak

[Lupatria]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The EU apparently found discrepancies in boat categorisation at the Marine Department and expects to see strict laws enforcement, efficient management of administrative orders and clear time frames.

This is far more likely to happen:

[Misterwhisper]

I am shocked!

 

I distinctly remember someone bleating a mere two months ago that Thailand had complied with each and every issue regarding IUU fishing and that there was nothing to worry about when the next EU inspection team arrives, expressing "confidence" that the country would be taken off the yellow list.

 

Let me reiterate: I am shocked! Not because the situation appears far from having been fixed but because someone high up just couldn't keep their mouth shut. Once again, I might add.

[RichardColeman]

You only have to see the sheer amount of sea food on offer at the markets, shops and stalls to know that this will end badly for Thailand in some way. 

[SABloke]

Remember this gem:

 

https://news.thaivisa.com/article/16680/thailand-to-declare-iuu-free-thailand

 

 

[SABloke]

25 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

You only have to see the sheer amount of sea food on offer at the markets, shops and stalls to know that this will end badly for Thailand in some way. 

How? 3+ years ago, the EU gave Thailand 6 months to clean up the fishing industry. Thailand did jack shit, and the EU rescinded its threat of a red-card.

 

The fact is that as long as people in the EU want cheap fish products, the EU lawmakers will ignore what happens in Thailand.

[lovelomsak]

2 minutes ago, SABloke said:

How? 3+ years ago, the EU gave Thailand 6 months to clean up the fishing industry. Thailand did jack shit, and the EU rescinded its threat of a red-card.

 

The fact is that as long as people in the EU want cheap fish products, the EU lawmakers will ignore what happens in Thailand.

You are so right as long as money is to be made it will go on. Slavery will be overlooked or given lip service. Overfishing,illegal fishing all is forgiven if there is money to be made. EU just makes noise no substance.

[timewilltell]

The best thing that could happen to Thailand is for the rest of the world to stop toying with them and slap them with sanctions on every area they fail. They fail bevause of the horrendous corruption and with intent to hide the truth. They deserve financial ostracism and through it will come the urgency to tackle the things that truly would benefit their society and make Thailand a much better country for its citizens. 

 

This softly approach helps no Thai except the criminal and corrupt.

[CanuckThai]

Thai businesses based in Thailand, follow the engrained Thai acumen.  The fishing situation is one thing, the cosmetic/supplement and FDA fiasco of late is another.   Imagine what goes on behind the scenes, for the thousands of Thai food processing operations...

[RichardColeman]

13 minutes ago, SABloke said:

How? 3+ years ago, the EU gave Thailand 6 months to clean up the fishing industry. Thailand did jack shit, and the EU rescinded its threat of a red-card.

 

The fact is that as long as people in the EU want cheap fish products, the EU lawmakers will ignore what happens in Thailand.

I meant there will be no sea life left !

[PatOngo]

2 hours ago, grumbleweed said:

Danger! Cunning Plan In Progress

5 staff to do in 3 months what all the various departments have failed to do in 3 years.

The only take-away from this is that delusion has no limits. Maybe it has its own department

 

It has it's own country!

[happy chappie]

Well well the EU finds discrepancies,what a suprise.

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, hyku1147 said:

The EU are myopic ideologues who should focus on Europe's problems.  

 

Ensuring corporate and public sector social responsibility includes eliminating modern day slavery and corrupt practices. Given globalized supply chains and increased world trade it would actually be myopic to focus on one's own boundaries and ignore large parts of supply chains. 

 

The UK for one is really tightening up on organizations managed their supply chains responsibly and ensuring suppliers are ethical. Results are disappointing so far and are being addressed including the effective implementation of further legislation introduced last year.

 

What's myopic is third world countries and the rich elites in them thinking that developed nations won't take this very seriously or be fobbed off with the usual BS promises.

[sawadee1947]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The EU apparently found discrepancies in boat categorisation at the Marine Department and expects to see strict laws enforcement, efficient management of administrative orders and clear timeframes. 

There will be no change unless this govt will change. I expected law enforcement when they started to rule the country. A law and order country actually. That is what soldiers could achieve.

However nothing changed to the better. And EU can give 4 months time....the result will be the same.

So the best will be to ban Thailand from exporting fish products to EU for at least one year. Then even we have a new govt. Hopefully.

[Oziex1]

I no longer buy canned tuna and sardines in Australia it all comes from Thailand.

 

It's all I can do we cannot rely on the authorities to control this it has to be done by the consumers.

Education of the consumers is required it takes time but can make a difference.

 

[Krataiboy]

Since 2015, Thailand has been slapped with a yellow flag

 

Yet another big "fail" for the junta, reluctant to rock the boat of an industry whose record of slavery, graft and murder is a national disgrace. 

[cookieqw]

2 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

I no longer buy canned tuna and sardines in Australia it all comes from Thailand.

 

It's all I can do we cannot rely on the authorities to control this it has to be done by the consumers.

Education of the consumers is required it takes time but can make a difference.

 

very big tuna catching and processing plant in Mauritius john west i think, 

[KiwiKiwi]

8 hours ago, mok199 said:

lawlessness and shamlessness,in a once amazing kingdom...sad

 

Once amazing. Must have been a long time ago, I've been here for more than 10 years and it hasn't been amazing on any day in that time.

 

Perhaps I've just been unlucky.

[Cadbury]

The EU or the government should extend itself to checking the health issues related to Thailand farmed fish. They might just find them loaded up with pesticides, growth hormones, antibiotics, disinfectants and anti-fouling agents. I can't imagine Thai seafood farmers are any different to those land based farmers who throw excesses of chemicals around with great abandon.

[PREM-R]

51 minutes ago, cookieqw said:

very big tuna catching and processing plant in Mauritius john west i think, 

John West belongs to.......Thai Union Co.,  Samut Sakhon, Thailand

[Oziex1]

1 hour ago, PREM-R said:

John West belongs to.......Thai Union Co.,  Samut Sakhon, Thailand

That explains all the produce of Thailand on the cans. I have been unable to find canned fish sourced anywhere else.

[GoldEagle]

Ban Thailand fish export to EU.  At the same time ban Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines.  They are all IUU violators.

Within 2050 there will be no fish left in the South China Sea and the Gulf of Thailand.  All these nations are living today and do not think about the future.

[Eligius]

9 hours ago, timewilltell said:

The best thing that could happen to Thailand is for the rest of the world to stop toying with them and slap them with sanctions on every area they fail. They fail bevause of the horrendous corruption and with intent to hide the truth. They deserve financial ostracism and through it will come the urgency to tackle the things that truly would benefit their society and make Thailand a much better country for its citizens. 

 

This softly approach helps no Thai except the criminal and corrupt.

Totally agree with the above post. Whenever and wherever - in whatever sphere of human / animal activity - Thailand is shown to be cheating, law-breaking and lying, other countries should boycott Thailand and thus send a strong signal of intolerance of Thailand's multiple crimes.