We live in Northern Japan but might move back to Okinawa next month. I love riding in Okinawa so I definitely need to get a road bike.

 

 

Suspiciously beginning to sound like a penis size contest.  Enough drivel for me.  I'm gone and glad.

Bwahahaha.... 5 pages into the topic a curve ball about penis size joins the discussion after we agreed that we were actually agreeing! 

On 5/26/2018 at 11:01 PM, Kohsamida said:

Any bike that would make you sad if it got irreparably broke or stolen is a "high-end" bike in my book.  My Cannondale is such a bike.  It really has little to do with cost or what it's made of.  But yeah, top line components ain't cheap.

I wouldn't concentrate on the frame too much, reckon the groupset is more important. For me high end road would Shimano 105 upwards, and XT upwards for MTB. So far I managed with "lower end" components, but last year with 10000+ km I went to the shop twice to replace some bits. Further cannot get the gears indexed properly, I need "double actuations" way too much.

Edited June 6, 20188 yr by KiChakayan