Prayut: shaken, defensive and easily riled

[faraday]

57 minutes ago, Happyman58 said:

Pm Prayuth doing an interview on Tv 

 

The reporter asks Mr. Pm can you list the achievements of the junta in the last 4 years.

 

Answer  mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

 

Reporter Well Mr. Pm what are they?

 

Pm  Shut-up or you will be re-educated  That is one achievement we have done, Re-educated a lot of Thais

Get Cathy Newman to interview him.

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, Eligius said:

Ha ha, good one, Bluesofa! I like your crack about the puppet operating Prayut.

By the way - it was Sandie Shaw who sang 'Puppet on a String'; Petula Clark was famous for 'Downtown'.

Oh sh1t yes, you're right. I stand (well, sit) corrected, cheers. My memory isn't what it used to be.

 

[Anak Nakal]

Prayut just little boy.

Thailand need adult.

[JAG]

14 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Oh sh1t yes, you're right. I stand (well, sit) corrected, cheers. My memory isn't what it used to be.

 

Neither, sadly, are Petula Clark or Sandy Shaw...

[mtls2005]

He sees himself as Prem 2.0.

 

Not sure why he doesn't just toddle off to the Privy Council?

[Artisi]

Might be time for someone to report in sick, along with Dr certificate of course and to ask for extended sick leave - gracefully back out and suggest elections be held as soon as possible as he can no longer fight the good fight due to his poor health - - win win. 

[JAG]

20 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

He sees himself as Prem 2.0.

 

Not sure why he doesn't just toddle off to the Privy Council?

I have for some time thought that was the real"road map".

 

Waiting for the vacancy I suppose...

[KiwiKiwi]

3 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

True..

 

But something is brewing-what that actually is I do not really know.

 

Perhaps a part of the Amart are intimating that it is time for Beethoven to roll over or for Gus to get on the bus..

 

Personally, I think it's a lot worse than that, and am awaiting the signs that point to a huge and disastrous reversal of backing, and I'm convinced that others, including our friends in Dubai and London also know it's coming. Tears before bedtime for out Mr Childish I fear.

 

Under the bus he is definitely going, and I would not be surprised to see a counter-coup, which will be Thailands last little game of soldiers.

 

I believe that history will record this disaster being laid directly at the door of Prayuth with his family and Mr Piggy withhis watches and both men with their arrogance.

 

Yesterday's men indeed, but the Thai people appear not to much like getting the government they deserve. In the meantime, I only hope the dopey buggers wake up to themselves and start to get a grip. The good Loed knows it would not be before time.

 

 

Edited May 30, 2018 by KiwiKiwi

[bluesofa]

4 minutes ago, JAG said:

27 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

He sees himself as Prem 2.0.

 

Not sure why he doesn't just toddle off to the Privy Council?

I have for some time thought that was the real"road map".

 

Waiting for the vacancy I suppose...

I think he'll get dumped before he even gets anywhere near the queue.

 

[Eligius]

7 minutes ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

Personally, I think it's a lot worse than that, and am awaiting the signs that point to a huge and disastrous reversal of backing, and I'm convinced that others, including our friends in Dubai and London also know it's coming. Tears before bedtime for out Mr Childish I fear.

 

Under the bus he is definitely going, and I would not be surprised to see a counter-coup, which will be Thailands last little game of soldiers.

 

Yesterday's men, but the Thai people appear not to much like getting the government they deserve. In the meantime, I only hope the dopey buggers wake up to themselves and start to get a grip. The good Loed knows it would not be before time.

 

 

Yes, recent developments are all very interesting and could indeed point to a loss of support for Prayut from high, celestial spheres (if you know what I mean). More and more people are speaking out against him (the head of the Election Commission's directly and publicly contradicting Prayut on the right of Thanathorn's party to agitate for a scrapping of the 2017 Constitution is a salient indicator), and one wonders if word has got round in such circles that Prayut is no longer 'approved of'. Speculation - but one wonders ...

 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Eligius

[Lupatria]

2 hours ago, Thailand said:

The headline is a scary description of the man who controls the guns..

He already has plans to avoid such headline descriptions of him in the future:

 

      

[KiwiKiwi]

11 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I think he'll get dumped before he even gets anywhere near the queue.

 

Fully agree. With both. He was definitely aiming for the PC and he's going to get a rather large disappointment. I hate to see grown men cry, but in this case I will be hard-pressed to feel any sympathy at all. This man is unfit from the top of his raggy head to the tips of his raggy toes.

 

I only hope that his absence from the line opens up a clear shot by someone at his miserable brother and his even more miserable and grasping brother's wife.The army must clean the stables of it's own soil or perish, this is not 1992, and a certain person on high has been quietly building up military strength of his own for years. I have an odd feeling that some old markers are being called in, not for Mr T's benefit, that time has long gone, but for persons or people close. In general, mothers do not leave their babies...

Edited May 30, 2018 by KiwiKiwi

[ChidlomDweller]

Wow, how much The Nation has changed their tune.  From being out and out junta supporters to this.  Remember the particularly shameful episode where they reprimanded and pushed out their own staff reporter when he got rounded up for "attitude adjustment"?

[KiwiKiwi]

2 minutes ago, ChidlomDweller said:

Wow, how much The Nation has changed their tune.  From being out and out junta supporters to this.  Remember the particularly shameful episode where they reprimanded and pushed out their own staff reporter when he got rounded up for "attitude adjustment"?

 

The Nation is a dreadful rag but remember they've had a change of ownership. Perhaps some professionalism came riding in on the back of that. Time will tell., though I think the opportunistic leopard will not change it's spots, certainly not easily...

Edited May 30, 2018 by KiwiKiwi

[Eligius]

5 minutes ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

The Nation is a dreadful rag but remember they've had a change of ownership. Perhaps some professionalism came riding in on the back of that. Time will tell., though I think the opportunistic leopard will not change it's spots, certainly not easily...

Perhaps The Nation's change in direction is interlinked with higher changes that might be going on and which are 'felt in the air', or suspected ...

[Becker]

14 minutes ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

The Nation is a dreadful rag but remember they've had a change of ownership. Perhaps some professionalism came riding in on the back of that. Time will tell., though I think the opportunistic leopard will not change it's spots, certainly not easily...

Not to be bashing Thailand (there's enough of that already) but professional journalism in this country is almost impossible to achieve due to the very severe limitations on what subjects can be covered lest one end up in a jail cell or worse.

[KiwiKiwi]

16 minutes ago, Eligius said:

Perhaps The Nation's change in direction is interlinked with higher changes that might be going on and which are 'felt in the air', or suspected ...

 

Possible. I think the whole piece above is a puff-piece. Tha Nation know's very well it wasn't Prayuth's hand on the dagger that did in Buddha Issara, and (perhaps more to the point) they know very well whose hand it was.

Edited May 30, 2018 by KiwiKiwi

[KiwiKiwi]

10 minutes ago, Becker said:

Not to be bashing Thailand (there's enough of that already) but professional journalism in this country is almost impossible to achieve due to the very severe limitations on what subjects can be covered lest one end up in a jail cell or worse.

True enough. And when the opportunity for professionalism does not exist, rags like the Nation (and others) will snatch at the opportunities that do exist (generally to fill their troughs). Thais being Thais...

 

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Edited May 30, 2018 by KiwiKiwi

[tomta]

10 minutes ago, Becker said:

Not to be bashing Thailand (there's enough of that already) but professional journalism in this country is almost impossible to achieve due to the very severe limitations on what subjects can be covered lest one end up in a jail cell or worse.

Yes , and as this coded exchange with its "celestials" and "persons on high" demonstrates, if proper journalism is impossible so is proper discussion of topics like this on forums like this. Don't get me wrong; it's all very interesting to me and I feel sufficiently informed to read much of the code (never all of it though). But imagine a person without much knowledge of Prayuth's shaken defensive and easily riled state who genuinely wants to learn something. What could he find out here? Not much. He would walk away irritated and almost as ignorant as when he came in. Thailand will only begin to sort out its troubles when a flood of free and open speech starts happening. It could be quite a ride. And quite scary.

 

Thailand is terrified of its own shadows.

[Eligius]

6 minutes ago, tomta said:

Yes , and as this coded exchange with its "celestials" and "persons on high" demonstrates, if proper journalism is impossible so is proper discussion of topics like this on forums like this. Don't get me wrong; it's all very interesting to me and I feel sufficiently informed to read much of the code (never all of it though). But imagine a person without much knowledge of Prayuth's shaken defensive and easily riled state who genuinely wants to learn something. What could he find out here? Not much. He would walk away irritated and almost as ignorant as when he came in. Thailand will only begin to sort out its troubles when a flood of free and open speech starts happening. It could be quite a ride. And quite scary.

 

Thailand is terrified of its own shadows.

Excellent points, Tomta. This is why I welcome Thanathorn's brave speaking out about the need to get rid of the bogus 2017 Constitution. As far as I know, until Thanathorn came along, no Thai politicians dared speak this unutterable truth. Thanathorn has been brave in doing so - and amazingly his wish has even found tacit support from the head of the Electoral Commission. 

Like you - I dream of the day (if ever?) when Thailand can grow up and discuss ALL matters and persons freely and openly. But we certainly are nowhere near that point yet. There are huge battles to be fought, and Thailand has barely even begun  ...

 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Eligius

[tomta]

Perhaps we are nowhere near that  point. It may last forever. It has gone on for a long time.  But maybe a tipping point is just around the  corner. And someone will start vomiting out what they really think. 

 

A story from Milan Kundera's Book of Laughter and Forgetting set in Czechoslovakia during the days of Stalinist repression of free speech

 

“In Wenceslaus Square, in Prague, a guy is throwing up. Another guy comes up to him, pulls a long face, shakes his head, and says: "I know just what you mean.”

 

 

[Odysseus123]

1 hour ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

Personally, I think it's a lot worse than that, and am awaiting the signs that point to a huge and disastrous reversal of backing, and I'm convinced that others, including our friends in Dubai and London also know it's coming. Tears before bedtime for out Mr Childish I fear.

 

Under the bus he is definitely going, and I would not be surprised to see a counter-coup, which will be Thailands last little game of soldiers.

 

I believe that history will record this disaster being laid directly at the door of Prayuth with his family and Mr Piggy withhis watches and both men with their arrogance.

 

Yesterday's men indeed, but the Thai people appear not to much like getting the government they deserve. In the meantime, I only hope the dopey buggers wake up to themselves and start to get a grip. The good Loed knows it would not be before time.

 

 

The Thai certainly march to the beat of a different drum then us Westerners do..for certs..but then so does the rest of Asia.

 

Please watch this and I think that it isn't really off topic altho' perhaps my intention is a little disguised.

 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Odysseus123

[ratcatcher]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

He sees himself as Prem 2.0.

 

Not sure why he doesn't just toddle off to the Privy Council?

Not sure why he doesn't just toddle off to the Privy Council?

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, ratcatcher said:

Not sure why he doesn't just toddle off to the Privy Council?

Not sure he needs one - seems quite capable of taking the p155 out of himself.

 

[Eric Loh]

53 minutes ago, ChidlomDweller said:

Wow, how much The Nation has changed their tune.  From being out and out junta supporters to this.  Remember the particularly shameful episode where they reprimanded and pushed out their own staff reporter when he got rounded up for "attitude adjustment"?

More baffling is that the Nation being bought by Chai Bunnag right wing group who supported Prayut and the military. Is this purely business as Nation has been losing revenues due to the bad junta economics or something more political. 

[tigermoth]

4 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Even with unassailable authority Mr. Grumpy is losing his grip on political reality. And just about everyone can see it. I suspect it is even obvious to his toadying cronies and they won't want to back a loser.

Every chance he will go into emotional meltdown before the year is out and the election approaches.

If he goes into an emotional breakdown that will cause absolute chaos for the beautiful Thai people. He will simply go back to what he knows, enforcement by deadly force. He must surely know he is disrespected by the vast majority of Thais. They all turn off their televisions when he starts his evening rants or change to another station.

[Eligius]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

More baffling is that the Nation being bought by Chai Bunnag right wing group who supported Prayut and the military. Is this purely business as Nation has been losing revenues due to the bad junta economics or something more political. 

I agree, Eric: it is surprising. I had expected to see a lurch to the Right (and greater support for Prayut and the junta) under The Nation's new ownership. Perhaps even they can see that they won't make many sales if they support this very unpopular regime. Or perhaps things really are beginning to change in Thailand. It is beginning to feel that way. Thanathorn, for example, comes as a breath of fresh air (although I think one should still be cautious about him - he has not yet been tried and tested - but he certainly offers a refreshing new vision of Thailand ....).

[CanuckThai]

The PM General's "behind the scenes backers", are the troubling thought.  Let's hope 4 years at the trough was profitable enough for them to go away peacefully.   Mr. Grumpy is nothing but a chosen face, it's painfully obvious he is not smart or stable enough to strategize or figure any of this out for himself.

 

 

 

 

[Mad mick]

5 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

Prayut and Co. should just bail out while their bank accounts are looking good.

There will be no legitimacy to be gained if they carry on with this farcical, pantomime of an "election".

Threatening the opposition is about as low as you can stoop. He is running scared and so he should.

In a free and fair election, with adequate campaigning time, he wouldn't stand a chance !!

Bank account almost full, once yellow submarine arrive from china all aboard off abroad new life UK the new Brazil of Europe Rich and on the run head straight to UK pay upon entry all good new id, passport, 10 year visa book audience with King Thaksin Shinawatra have a chat quiet chardonnay or 2 thanking him for leading the way how to rob Thai poor to give to rich only one thing as PM he got wrong thais dont love him like love Shinawatra family for robbing them , 

[cornishcarlos]

3 minutes ago, Mad mick said:

Bank account almost full, once yellow submarine arrive from china all aboard off abroad new life UK the new Brazil of Europe Rich and on the run head straight to UK pay upon entry all good new id, passport, 10 year visa book audience with King Thaksin Shinawatra have a chat quiet chardonnay or 2 thanking him for leading the way how to rob Thai poor to give to rich only one thing as PM he got wrong thais dont love him like love Shinawatra family for robbing them , 

 

And breathe ?