Trump can probably pardon himself, but has no plan to -Giuliani

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

A while back there was a sentiment expressed by some Trump supporters on this score. To simplify, they "won", and as  the baiting, gloating and rubbing it in lose their novelty, things get back to "normal", from their point of view. Other than some regular diehards, most will not surface until the next elections. It is quite normal for the opposition to be more active on such political debates. Maybe it's seen as unnecessary, or a waste of energy by the side that won. 

 

Far as I can tell, it's been like that for as long as I joined TVF. This also applies to baiting the other side about not "showing up", though.

 

Wouldn't know that all Trump supporters like everything he does and says. That's ignoring some of his appeal apparently being grounded on simply not being HRC. Expecting all Trump supporters to be mindless drones is a cop out. Some are, some are not. Expecting all of them to defend whatever Trump does is bogus.

You miss my point.

 

I don’t expect all Trump supporters to defend his assertions that he is above the law, I don’t even expect the diehards to either.

My point is, here in these assertions of being above the law Trump goes beyond what is defendable in a democracy.

 

We are seeing exactly where Trump wishes to take America, into tyrrany.

 

 

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You miss my point.

 

I don’t expect all Trump supporters to defend his assertions that he is above the law, I don’t even expect the diehards to either.

My point is, here in these assertions of being above the law Trump goes beyond what is defendable in a democracy.

 

We are seeing exactly where Trump wishes to take America, into tyrrany.

 

 

 

I didn't miss your "point" at all. Even referred to it directly.

In order to make your "point", there wasn't any real need to evoke the issue of Trump supporters not showing up to defend Trump, though. As it stands, more to do with baiting then making an actual "point". And to a degree, they have it coming. Fair enough (if someone's into that).

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Morch said:

 

I didn't miss your "point" at all. Even referred to it directly.

In order to make your "point", there wasn't any real need to evoke the issue of Trump supporters not showing up to defend Trump, though. As it stands, more to do with baiting then making an actual "point". And to a degree, they have it coming. Fair enough (if someone's into that).

Forgive me, I missed the need to go easy on the feelings of Trump supporters.

I’ll try softer next time.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Forgive me, I missed the need to go easy on the feelings of Trump supporters.

I’ll try softer next time.

 

There wasn't anything said about a "need to go easy on the feelings of Trump supporters".

[selftaopath]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You miss my point.

 

I don’t expect all Trump supporters to defend his assertions that he is above the law, I don’t even expect the diehards to either.

My point is, here in these assertions of being above the law Trump goes beyond what is defendable in a democracy.

 

We are seeing exactly where Trump wishes to take America, into tyrrany.

 

 

Oh how long have I been saying this? And I also felt for a/b 1.5 yrs. Swamp king is willing to have a "hot civil war" to keep himself in office.... at all costs. Hell it wouldn't surprise me if he suggests "war games" WITH his puppet master's army. 

[mtls2005]

Seems like Rudy Giuliani has gone missing, has anyone seen his face on a milk carton yet.

 

What a buffoon.

 

Looks like Rupert Murdoch is sending a message to tRump.

 

Rudy Giuliani bragged about affair with ‘big-boobed’ married woman

 

https://pagesix.com/2018/06/13/rudy-giuliani-bragged-about-affair-with-big-boobed-married-woman/

 

 

 

Rudy Giuliani’s wife says he’s a cheating liar

 

https://pagesix.com/2018/06/12/rudy-giulianis-wife-says-hes-a-cheating-liar/

 

 

 

Rudy Giuliani’s son loses West Wing access

 

https://nypost.com/2018/06/13/rudy-giulianis-son-loses-west-wing-access/

 

 

[riclag]

Poll shows Mueller’s public image at all-time low

 

"Mueller’s unfavorable numbers have hit highs among both Democrats and independents, at 24 percent and 33 percent, respectively. Thirty-six percent of all registered voters are also seeing Mueller unfavorably, which represents the highest level since the polling first raised the topic 11 months ago. Back then, 23 percent of all voters said they viewed Mueller negatively".

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/13/mueller-investigation-trump-poll-643491

The tweets and  and sustained attacks on the credibility of the Russian interference investigation by Fox news and other conservative outlets are shedding some light,more to come with the IG report.

I think many people have forgotten what the original purpose of the investigation was !

[Ron19]

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[Opl]

"Desperate Giuliani and Trump Just Tampered With Mueller’s Witnesses"

"In an interview with the New York Daily News, Giuliani said: “When the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons,” the former New York mayor told the Daily News. "

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/15/giuliani-trump-witness-tampering.html

"Why it matters: The comment came just hours after Paul Manafort was sent to jail after his bail was revoked following an attempt to tamper with two witnesses in the Russia investigation."

https://www.axios.com/rudy-giuliani-paul-manafort-e20dd209-d2a3-4cfe-98ed-f3cb7c098927.html

Edited June 15, 2018 by Opl