9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump shares your hope.

 

He and his shrills are working overtime to discredit the FBI, the DOJ and the security services in an attempt to undermine the criminal charges headed Trump’s way.

 

 

Please keep me out of your off topic reply's,this isn't about PT

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by riclag

16 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It's about the conduct of the FBI in investigation  of Clinton's emails. Not about Hillary Clinton. Nowhere did I read that the IG criticized Comey or othe agents for granting granting partial immunity to potential witnesses. And once again, your invocation of the FBI's granting immunity to potential witnesses only vitiates the case you make. But congratulations once again on indulging your predilection for bringing Hillary Clinton into the conversation.

 

Have you ever served on a jury?  Ever watched Court TV? A grant of immunity is EXTREMELY rare. I mean almost NEVER do you see it. Yet it was granted in varying degrees at least 5 times with respect to the Clinton email investigation. Why might that be?  The FBI is a powerful investigative agency. They're not offering anyone immunity as they go after Manafort or Papadopolous or Flynn and nor should they. So why was it necessary to offer varying degrees of immunity to staff workers about a case of emails?  I know why, and you probably know why. It's only your wrong view you need to protect. Let it go. You'll be better for it.

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

Hey, you said you read  the IG report,  "Nowhere did I read that the IG criticized". 

I got news for you. The IG report isn't the only place you can read information about what was written there. And as I and someone else pointed out, if that information was there, by now it would have been plastered all over the right wing media. 

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Have you ever served on a jury?  Ever watched Court TV? A grant of immunity is EXTREMELY rare. I mean almost NEVER do you see it. Yet it was granted in varying degrees at least 5 times with respect to the Clinton email investigation. Why might that be?  The FBI is a powerful investigative agency. They're not offering anyone immunity as they go after Manafort or Papadopolous or Flynn and nor should they. So why was it necessary to offer varying degrees of immunity to staff workers about a case of emails?  I know why, and you probably know why. It's only your wrong view you need to protect. Let it go. You'll be better for it.

And you keep on being misleading about it. It was partial immunity that was granted. But most importantly,  the IG doesn't agree with you that there was anything improper about it. Clearly this is just more of your HC obsession at work.

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

Please keep me out of your off topic reply's,this isn't about PT

PT requested the invetigation!

 

Now the results turn out not to be what Trump has been telling his supporters they would be... suddenly it’s no longer about Trump.

 

It’s all about Trump.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

PT requested the invetigation!

 

Now the results turn out not to be what Trump has been telling his supporters they would be... suddenly it’s no longer about Trump.

 

It’s all about Trump.

 

 

OMG !

• Report rebukes Comey, but says no bias in Clinton email case

19 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And you keep on being misleading about it. It was partial immunity that was granted. But most importantly,  the IG doesn't agree with you that there was anything improper about it. Clearly this is just more of your HC obsession at work.

Why the "partial" immunity?  It is EXTREMELY rare that anyone is ever granted it. Why? You hear about it in Mob investigations, but where else?

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by lannarebirth

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I didn't say that read it again("Anyone who might be charged or who could give insight into who should be charged was granted immunity just for speaking with invesigators from the outset").

 

If anyone was granted immunity it was obviously a waste as no activity warranting charges have been identified. I guess Trump, the detractor in chief, will continue alleging conspiracy, making a fool of himself and sullying the Office of the President of the USA.

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by simple1

The  2 top FBi guys either insubordinate or fired for lying.What else has the Career Professionals done,or haven't done 

4 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

Why the "partial" immunity?  It is EXTREMELY rare that anyone is ever granted it. Why? You hear about it in Mob investigations, but where else?

I don't know that it's extremely rate. But even if it was, the IG has ruled that there was no bias in the FBI investigation of the Clinton case. Comey did get rebuked for deciding not to bring charges but then rebuking Hillary. That was definitely a violation of procedure. Don't see you getting heated up much about that.

4 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I don't know that it's extremely rate. But even if it was, the IG has ruled that there was no bias in the FBI investigation of the Clinton case. Comey did get rebuked for deciding not to bring charges but then rebuking Hillary. That was definitely a violation of procedure. Don't see you getting heated up much about that.

I really haven't got that far into it. You may find this hard to believe given the contempt I have for these people, but I'm trying to look forward rather than backwards. I'm not always successful at that.

I hope the DOJ doesn't fire Stroz until the house subpoena's him,so American's can find out about the Insurance policy that him and L. Page discussed in their txt messages.

Anyone, including the president, who believes there was some kind of FBI conspiracy to prevent him from being elected president now ought to go off their Kool-Aid for a few weeks. The reality is, just the opposite, Comey's actions prior to the election, intentional or not, ended up helping Trump get elected.

 

As for the Russia probe, it's legitimate and deserved and Mueller's investigation is not in any way tainted by whatever poor judgment Comey exercised prior to the election in his public announcements re the Clinton investigation -- announcements that probably helped cost Clinton the election.

 

But Trump will continue to see conspiracies everywhere, of course, except where the real one exists, and that's in his company first, then his campaign and campaign staff, and finally his Administration playing footsie with all kind of different unsavory Russian characters, and perhaps the Russian government as well.

Of course, this will be driving the talking heads on FOX "News" commentary channel wild.

52 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Anyone, including the president, who believes there was some kind of FBI conspiracy to prevent him from being elected president now ought to go off their Kool-Aid for a few weeks. The reality is, just the opposite, Comey's actions prior to the election, intentional or not, ended up helping Trump get elected.

 

As for the Russia probe, it's legitimate and deserved and Mueller's investigation is not in any way tainted by whatever poor judgment Comey exercised prior to the election in his public announcements re the Clinton investigation -- announcements that probably helped cost Clinton the election.

 

But Trump will continue to see conspiracies everywhere, of course, except where the real one exists, and that's in his company first, then his campaign and campaign staff, and finally his Administration playing footsie with all kind of different unsavory Russian characters, and perhaps the Russian government as well.

Can you explain why Lynch wanted Comey to call it a Matter and not a Investigation. Can you explain why Obama  said he only new that Clinton had a private email from news reports,when there were 13 people that communicated with her on her private email and he was one of them.Why did Comey wait a month to come out with the Weiner emails.Where was Comey when Stroz edited his exoneration of HC from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless. How can Americans believe in Fidelity,Bravery and Integrity from the very top officials in the FBI!  Horowitz has much explaining to do about bias ,to the American people,when he goes in front of the House committee 

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by riclag

Why is Strok still working for the FBI. It's unbelievable !

28 minutes ago, riclag said:

Why is Strok still working for the FBI. It's unbelievable !

 

It's all a conspiracy, as you have long suspected. The current FBI director, appointed by Trump, is in on it. So is Sessions. And the IG too, he's obviously a Clinton stooge.

 

And the real secret is, it's all been a plot by all the conservative Republican Mormons who populate much of the FBI leadership ranks to bring back George McGovern from the dead and install him as president.

 

Obviously, you've already sussed all this out. 

1 hour ago, Ulic said:

Of course, this will be driving the talking heads on FOX "News" commentary channel wild.

So another 8 month's going down this rabbit hole. 

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

It's all a conspiracy, as you have long suspected. The current FBI director, appointed by Trump, is in on it. So is Sessions. And the IG too, he's obviously a Clinton stooge.

 

And the real secret is, it's all been a plot by all the conservative Republican Mormons who populate much of the FBI leadership ranks to bring back George McGovern from the dead and install him as president.

 

Obviously, you've already sussed all this out. 

The current FBI(Rey) isn't in on it. Sessions well he will be coming out with his recommendations on what to do going forward in regard to the IG report. The rest of your comment is heavenly,I can't reply to it I have no religion. 

 

Consider yourselves mocked! 

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by Becker

2 minutes ago, Becker said:

 

Consider yourselves mocked! 

 insubordinate Comey followed HC  footsteps. 

IG: Comey used personal email account for FBI business

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/comey-emails-ig-report/index.html

I'll be the first to say -- partisan politics SHOULD have no role in law enforcement investigations at any level.

 

And anyone who violates that standard is being unprofessional and should be disciplined in accord with the offense.

 

Of course, if you applied that same partisan interference and unprofessional conduct standard to the Trump Admin at large, the president himself would have been fired 1000 times over by now, and most of his administration would be gone as well.

 

Trump demanding and getting the Justice Department to investigate its own investigation is nothing but partisan interference in law enforcement. Same for the Republicans in the House. And their combined, unceasing efforts to interfere with and discredit the Special Counsel's investigation. All the while, the Special Counsel, in acting professionally in contrast, says nothing public about all the partisan c**p being heaped on him and his team.

 

And as for professional conduct, how about Navarro's "special place in hell" public statement re the Canadian premier? Has he been fired for unprofessional conduct? How the White House staffer who dismissed Sen. McCain by basically saying he's dying anyway? Still hanging around. Or how about the EPA Admin and his condo deal with the wife of a lobbyist. And the list goes on and on and on...

 

Trump and his cohorts are the last people in the country who have any moral standing to be complaining about these kinds of things. The whole group of them are nothing but partisan and unprofessional.

 

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

51 minutes ago, riclag said:

 insubordinate Comey followed HC  footsteps. 

IG: Comey used personal email account for FBI business

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/comey-emails-ig-report/index.html

 

And it just continues on and on...

 

Report: Trump Using Personal Cell Phone a Lot More, Just in Case His Calls Weren't Insecure Enough Already

 

Quote

So of course President Donald Trump is increasingly ditching government-approved communications methods to instead use his personal device, CNN reported on Monday.

 

And on and on...

 

At least 5 Trump aides used personal email for public business

 

How long to play the what-about game?

 

Edited June 15, 20188 yr by Silurian

And there's the long running saga of VP Pence's private AOL account that he used for government business when he was governor of Indiana, and that was later hacked.  

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/03/why-mike-pences-private-email-account-is-way-different-from-hillary-clintons/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4e6fafc17328

 

Not saying what Pence did was illegal. Just that people with glass email accounts shouldn't be throwing bricks.

Off-topic post and replies removed.  

On 6/15/2018 at 1:18 PM, riclag said:

I hope the DOJ doesn't fire Stroz until the house subpoena's him,so American's can find out about the Insurance policy that him and L. Page discussed in their txt messages.

Why are Republicans hiding Peter Strzok’s testimony?

On Thursday Trump tweeted that Strzok “was given poor marks on yesterday’s closed-door testimony” and that Strzok’s role in the Russia investigation was further evidence of the “witch hunt” against him. But although the president himself had called for Strzok’s testimony to be public, Congress did not agree.

These congressmen who claim to be interested in transparency and full disclosure should be eager to make Strzok’s testimony public — particularly since the president claims that testimony will provide evidence of the “witch hunt” against him. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-are-republicans-hiding-peter-strzoks-testimony/2018/06/29/8ac02ade-7bbe-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html?utm_term=.282ddcac0bc3