15 minutes ago, greenchair said:

I have no doubt that the teacher had sent notes home, called the mother and tried other means. 

The mothers fight is the school should get the money from the father. The father is on a runner. The mother is trying to involve the school in her domestic problems that should be sorted by the courts. My husband had this problem. The court order says the father must pay for the education. But the mother thinks they can get all the extra classes. My hub ex put the kid in private eng lessons at 1000 baht an hour. We got a bill of 25000 per month for education. We had to go back to the court and specifically define what "pay for education means ".  We didn't pay either. 

But in this case she's trying to get the school to enforce the order. She wouldn't win in court. The court says all extra classes are the option of the mother. She pays. 

The teacher did make a mistake, in that she should have removed the child from the class. But maybe the mother was saying next week next week and now the course is finished. The mother is the one abusing and upsetting the child here. 

Not the teacher. 

None of what you post here excuses the humiliating of this child by this teacher. 

 

They are a disgrace. 

7 minutes ago, Artisi said:

BS to the initial comment and as for taping notes onto the kids, what a novel but primitive idea.  

In this particular case, guess you think it's a real joke, or possibly it's your warped superior nature that you believe the note content should belittle and embarrass the child. 

 

 

I did actually think it was novel and funny. 

In the past the teachers often would put notes on the kids. I did not do my homework. I am late everyday. I have been stealing other kids lunches. Everyone took it light heartedly. Funnily enough the behaviour in question stopped. Don't be so uptight. In a court of law, who is the instigator of the situation. That slack ass mother that won't pay the bills. 

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

None of what you post here excuses the humiliating of this child by this teacher. 

 

They are a disgrace. 

The child couldn't even read the note. 

You always want to wrap children in cotton wool. 

These kids are from poor families. They are going to be beaten, bullied, taunted and generally have to survive in classes of 50 kids with 1 teacher. They have got to be strong and fight their way through. The ones that aren't end up on drugs and dropping out at high school. The teacher clearly wants the child to learn. The mother is preventing that. 

15 minutes ago, greenchair said:

The child couldn't even read the note. 

You always want to wrap children in cotton wool. 

These kids are from poor families. They are going to be beaten, bullied, taunted and generally have to survive in classes of 50 kids with 1 teacher. They have got to be strong and fight their way through. The ones that aren't end up on drugs and dropping out at high school. The teacher clearly wants the child to learn. The mother is preventing that. 

No. 

 

The teacher is a a bully who humiliated the child, they are unfit to work with children. 

 

As to what I do: I help children develop as learners and problem solvers. 

 

I, unlike this teacher, do not teach them humiliation and bullying are the way to act. 

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28 minutes ago, greenchair said:

The child couldn't even read the note. 

You always want to wrap children in cotton wool. 

These kids are from poor families. They are going to be beaten, bullied, taunted and generally have to survive in classes of 50 kids with 1 teacher. They have got to be strong and fight their way through. The ones that aren't end up on drugs and dropping out at high school. The teacher clearly wants the child to learn. The mother is preventing that. 

How do you know the child couldn't read the note and even if unable the ones that could would certainly soon let the child known and rub-it in. 

You certainly go on with a lot of unsubstantiated BS, then maybe you believe your own nonsense. As for being a teacher - you would only last for one  watch on my brief

 

 

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No. 

 

The teacher is a a bully who humiliated the child, they are unfit to work with children. 

 

As to what I do: I help children develop as learners and problem solvers. 

 

I, unlike this teacher, do not teach them humiliation and bullying are the way to act. 

Let me get my vomit bag. 

 

3 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Let me get my vomit bag. 

 

I'd lend you mine but after reading your posts, it and several bin liners are already full.

1 hour ago, Artisi said:

How do you know the child couldn't read the note and even if unable the ones that could would certainly soon let the child known and rub-it in. 

You certainly go on with a lot of unsubstantiated BS, then maybe you believe your own nonsense. As for being a teacher - you would only last for one  watch on my brief

 

 

Lol. One watch is more than I got in my last school. 

There I was with 20 k1 kids and no assistant. 

The huge fat kid that weighed more than me wouldn't budge from the floor into the class. 

What do I do? 

Leave 20 kids and run for help? 

Sit outside for 20 minutes and soothe him, whilst all my lovely kids miss their fun lesson? 

Or 

Grab him under the arms and slide him on his arse into class ?

Guess which one to  choose. .

I just dont have time for this new age bs. 

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4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I'd lend you mine but after reading your posts, it and several bin liners are already full.

Stop abusing me, you don't want to inhibit my problem solving do you. 

At the end of the day, it does not matter whether the  child's mother could, couldn't or should have paid the fee, the "teacher" (whether instructed by higher authority or not) should not have singled out and humilated the child because of the fault of adults! 

2 hours ago, greenchair said:

Stop abusing me, you don't want to inhibit my problem solving do you. 

Physician, heal thyself.

2 hours ago, greenchair said:

Lol. One watch is more than I got in my last school. 

There I was with 20 k1 kids and no assistant. 

The huge fat kid that weighed more than me wouldn't budge from the floor into the class. 

What do I do? 

Leave 20 kids and run for help? 

Sit outside for 20 minutes and soothe him, whilst all my lovely kids miss their fun lesson? 

Or 

Grab him under the arms and slide him on his arse into class ?

Guess which one to  choose. .

I just dont have time for this new age bs. 

I suspect that attitude is why the child didn't want to enter the class...

19 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I suspect that attitude is why the child didn't want to enter the class...

I did get him in the class though, little sod. 

1 hour ago, lvr181 said:

At the end of the day, it does not matter whether the  child's mother could, couldn't or should have paid the fee, the "teacher" (whether instructed by higher authority or not) should not have singled out and humilated the child because of the fault of adults! 

It does matter. 

Do you know how much time and resources this woman is robbing from other children who paid and went to school to study and follow the rules. I'm so tired of all the best students, suffering because of the paddy tantrums of the few children and parents that can't follow a few simple rules. It seems the parents and kids that make the most trouble get all the rewards. While everyone else gets the basics. At my son school, the slow kids get 10 extra hours of basic English a week. Then they get all day Saturday for extra classes free  ( optional) and they get 10 minutes extra for all tests. 

The kids that studied hard have to go to school at 6 in the morning to get an extra class that's fits their level. Why does that woman not have to pay? 

12 minutes ago, greenchair said:

I did get him in the class though, little sod. 

Again...that attitude.

All the argy-bargy going on accounts for bugger all when the teacher / director or who ever decided to humiliate the child in front of everyone - that's not on, it's wrong, it's not acceptable, it's low class. In any modern correctly thinking society it could even be consider verbal abuse with translates as assault.

 

I have nothing against being tough on kids who need it, but humiliation isn't being tough - it just reflects the poor moral upbringing of the abuser. 

 

3 hours ago, greenchair said:

Stop abusing me, you don't want to inhibit my problem solving do you. 

that's the way to go - solve the problem with humiliation, 10/10 if it worked - but it doesn't. 

3 hours ago, greenchair said:

It does matter. 

Do you know how much time and resources this woman is robbing from other children who paid and went to school to study and follow the rules. I'm so tired of all the best students, suffering because of the paddy tantrums of the few children and parents that can't follow a few simple rules. It seems the parents and kids that make the most trouble get all the rewards. While everyone else gets the basics. At my son school, the slow kids get 10 extra hours of basic English a week. Then they get all day Saturday for extra classes free  ( optional) and they get 10 minutes extra for all tests. 

The kids that studied hard have to go to school at 6 in the morning to get an extra class that's fits their level. Why does that woman not have to pay? 

Oh really? Humiliating the child is ok by you? Get a life!

 

(BTW it is claimed that the child's father was to pay).

11 hours ago, greenchair said:

I did actually think it was novel and funny. 

In the past the teachers often would put notes on the kids. I did not do my homework. I am late everyday. I have been stealing other kids lunches. Everyone took it light heartedly. Funnily enough the behaviour in question stopped. Don't be so uptight. In a court of law, who is the instigator of the situation. That slack ass mother that won't pay the bills. 

All of those are things the child did that they are being shamed for.  This was not the action of the child, so why humiliate him for something he not only didn't do but had no control over?

27 minutes ago, Katia said:

All of those are things the child did that they are being shamed for.  This was not the action of the child, so why humiliate him for something he not only didn't do but had no control over?

The source of the problem is the mother. 

Anyway, you people really are over reacting. On a 1 to 10 of abuse, it was less than a one. 

Poor teacher. just trying to do her job for a miserable salary and get paid. 

Just now, greenchair said:

The source of the problem is the mother. 

Anyway, you people really are over reacting. On a 1 to 10 of abuse, it was less than a one. 

Poor teacher. just trying to do her job for a miserable salary and get paid. 

Then let the mother wear the note, not the child.

28 minutes ago, Katia said:

All of those are things the child did that they are being shamed for.  This was not the action of the child, so why humiliate him for something he not only didn't do but had no control over?

"so why humiliate him" --  why, because people lacking any moral judgement think it's funny to humiliate kids and probably get a big kick out of it.   

1 minute ago, Artisi said:

"so why humiliate him" --  why, because people lacking any moral judgement think it's funny to humiliate kids and probably get a big kick out of it.   

He wasn't humiliated, you're over reacting. 

I taped all the kids mouth in my class. They thought it was hilarious. 

1 minute ago, greenchair said:

The source of the problem is the mother. 

Anyway, you people really are over reacting. On a 1 to 10 of abuse, it was less than a one. 

Poor teacher. just trying to do her job for a miserable salary and get paid. 

… and it would seem your empathy on a scale of 1 to 10 would be at best minus -10. 

You should give it a break, there is no way you can justify humiliating the child over something completely out of his control - irrespective of how hard you try or argue.

Can you believe they actually put these hats on kids these days. Wrapping them up in cotton wool. 

3 minutes ago, greenchair said:

He wasn't humiliated, you're over reacting. 

I taped all the kids mouth in my class. They thought it was hilarious. 

have you personally interviewed the child to establish how he felt - NO - so don't assume his feelings as you have been doing all along. As for tapping the kids mouths shut  - unless it was explained to be a fun thing, which it would seem from your prior posts and comments to be very unlikely - my earlier comment on your behaviour stands.

 

As for any further comments - completely unnecessary as you have clearly shown your complete disregard for children and their well-being. 

8 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Can you believe they actually put these hats on kids these days. Wrapping them up in cotton wool. 

superfluous - just like safety helmets for kids on push bikes and motor bikes.

In the UK this would contravene the Data Protection Act.

 

When gaining access to property in the UK under a court "Warrant of Entry" to access the gas &/or electric meters we can not tell anyone why, the matter can only be discussed with the occupier.

27 minutes ago, Basil B said:

In the UK this would contravene the Data Protection Act.

When gaining access to property in the UK under a court "Warrant of Entry" to access the gas &/or electric meters we can not tell anyone why, the matter can only be discussed with the occupier.

What does UK laws have to do with this story ?

Can you believe they actually put these hats on kids these days. Wrapping them up in cotton wool. 

In Thailand they then take them off when putting the kids on motorbikes.
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