billd766 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tongjaw said: Some of the parents have said the coach did not take them into the cave. The parents found out from one of the boys friends who decided not to enter the cave. The parents called the coach and he went looking for them. The signs outside the cave said no entry from July to November, they boys entered the cave in June, so they did not break any rules. The parents have also said to the media that the coach is a hero in their eyes. I think it’s best to wait till everyone is safe. Then we can find out the correct stories before jumping to conclusions. quote "Then we can find out the correct stories before jumping to conclusions." Jumping to conclusions is what many posters seem to have done on this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted July 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2018 The above clip is the reality of the situation. So many people have no idea of the hazards that await a rescue attempt I wish all of the kids and the rescue team safe and well 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DukSiam1 said: I feel that video is a set-up. Where is the cameraman? probably just put the camera in a crevice, one of those modern boxes where one pushes the on button and that keeps on recording. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 but why did they let go the real experts? but then it's only a 15 or so hour flight to bring them back how long do they have. before the season turns around enough, for the usual 100% saturation?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongjaw Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Peterw42 said: This clip is doing the rounds on facebook, shows just how tight it is in sections. I’m feeling claustophobic just looking at the video. The diver in this video has visibility, I can’t even imagine doing it in zero visibility. These divers are real heros and must poses nerves of steel. R.I.P to the hero who has just give his life to save these boys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 No mention about cause of death only that he fell unconscious? Was he breathing oxygen? Did his Navy seal training include cave and sump diving? What are the odds of them getting a child out safely if one of their own got whacked delivering oxygen? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted July 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, tifino said: but why did they let go the real experts? but then it's only a 15 or so hour flight to bring them back how long do they have. before the season turns around enough, for the usual 100% saturation?? One man has left. The rest are still there along with experts from several countries. In response to other questions on this forum from the more racist types (not you tifono) I have seen pictures today of the foreign experts clearly in discussions with the leaders so their opinions are obviously being listened to very seriously. For anyone to suggest they aren't is ridiculous. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elektrified Posted July 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Just1Voice said: When the news first broke that they had found the kid I, like everyone else, was overjoyed. But I turned to my Thai wife and told her "Now the real problems start." She asked me what I meant, and I asked "How the hell are they going to get them out?" They joy and happiness at finding them may soon be replaced with the tragedy of losing some of them. You are the most negative voice in all these threads about the incident. Shut up! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, elektrified said: You are the most negative voice in all these threads about the incident. Shut up! agree with you, let's keep the atmosphere positive, and if possible constructive. Some kings of the bleeming obvious better not share their most interesting thoughts since someone invented sliced bread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 R.I.P , Saman Kunan, 38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Very sad news R I P brave man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 RIP, brave man and thank you. You have accumulated much merit and you deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Pretty good rain coming down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 So sad but please celibate this hero’s bravery and sacerfice a true hero a fine example of humanity my heart reaches out to his loved ones I will hold his example close to my heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, elektrified said: You are the most negative voice in all these threads about the incident. Shut up! Trust me, I am hardly "negative". But I am a realist. Blame it on being a U.S. Marine for 20 years of you want. Personally I don't care. I can look at a situation and see both the positive and negative aspects of it. The Positive - They found the kids and coach. The Negative - How the hell do they get them all out safely? If a trained Navy SEAL diver died during this ordeal, do you honestly believe that all the boys and teacher will simply sail though without a problem? I don't want to see the loss of another life, but I have to accept the possibility that it could happen. My glasses aren't rose tinted. Edited July 6, 2018 by Just1Voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) Rescue Diver Killed ......No he was not killed...he died..Their is a difference Thai Visa. And he was a volunteer. 38 yrs old...too old for this......Again Thai Visa he was not killed by anybody....He simply died a Hero in my eyes...Gave his life for those Kids...And the Kids be younger and will be much worst off if leave them there, they are finding that out now, low oxygen levels and rain to come can flood area were they are at...I see that coming....Have no other choice but get out now.... Edited July 6, 2018 by yrag 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I really wonder what is the cause of the death of this brave man? long dives, I mean many hours requires a lot of precaution, so what was the quality of the air in his bottle? Because the compressor compresses, and that means everything, for it was made at the entrance of the cave, could there be any toxic fumes in this air? breathing it one hour or five hours would make all the difference because feeling like going to faint while diving is not advisable, just a modest opinion...of someone who made his first dive in the late sixties and his last dive in 2011 it's just a little over forty years for hearing all kinds of problems. I am really really sorry for this courageous but unfortunate young man, who should never have had this accident surrounded by so many as he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JestSetter Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 If low oxygen is an issue, could they not pump oxygen into the location with a long enough cable pumping oxygen? Not sure how they could remove toxic gases though, unless they could try to suck the air back out, enabling air exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tchooptip said: I really wonder what is the cause of the death of this brave man? long dives, I mean many hours requires a lot of precaution, so what was the quality of the air in his bottle? Because the compressor compresses, and that means everything, for it was made at the entrance of the cave, could there be any toxic fumes in this air? breathing it one hour or five hours would make all the difference because feeling like going to faint while diving is not advisable, just a modest opinion...of someone who made his first dive in the late sixties and his last dive in 2011 it's just a little over forty years for hearing all kinds of problems. I am really really sorry for this courageous but unfortunate young man, who should never have had this accident surrounded by so many as he was. He not die diving, he was handling oxygen tanks, exhaustion and probably had a underlying health issue , Edited July 6, 2018 by yrag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Peterw42 said: This clip is doing the rounds on facebook, shows just how tight it is in sections. I find it hard to believe that there was no water in those tight, low sections when they went in, then suddenly there was. But maybe it didn't take much initially to block the return, then it kept on coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 so maybe he was an 'ex' navy seal, because of 'related' medical reasons? and for that he shouldn't have even been there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, tifino said: so maybe he was an 'ex' navy seal, because of 'related' medical reasons? and for that he shouldn't have even been there ... Yes i read he was x navy seal and was a volunteer only.....Handling Oxygen Tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, yrag said: Yes i read he was x navy seal and was a volunteer only.....Handling Oxygen Tanks yes, but he was still diving along with the healthy divers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tchooptip said: I really wonder what is the cause of the death of this brave man? long dives, I mean many hours requires a lot of precaution, so what was the quality of the air in his bottle? Because the compressor compresses, and that means everything, for it was made at the entrance of the cave, could there be any toxic fumes in this air? breathing it one hour or five hours would make all the difference because feeling like going to faint while diving is not advisable, just a modest opinion...of someone who made his first dive in the late sixties and his last dive in 2011 it's just a little over forty years for hearing all kinds of problems. I am really really sorry for this courageous but unfortunate young man, who should never have had this accident surrounded by so many as he was. He not die diving, he was handling oxygen tanks, exhaustion and probably had a underlying health issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0815 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 So tragic. RIP Khun Samarn Kunan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, yrag said: He not die diving, he was handling oxygen tanks, exhaustion and probably had a underlying health issue all this confusion; coming from Topics being labelled, such as 'Rescue Diver Killed in Tham Luang Cave Complex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formaleins Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Whatever we think about the training and qualifications of the "Seals" they have got HUGE balls doing what they are doing and my respect goes out to them and all involved in this rescue situation. Anyone that can strap on an air cylinder and make their way through that sort of place is amazing, you would not get me in there for all the gold in the world, bad luck for the guy that died. It just surprises me that there is only one dead after all of this. That school coach has some answering to do - Probably won't have to do it in this world, hope he believes in Karma as he is due a massive dose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 one article said he was a former Thai navy diver. No doubt good intentioned but unless one is recently experienced and at the top of their game, well.... There doesn't seem to be a deep water issue there. No buddy system diving? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, gk10002000 said: one article said he was a former Thai navy diver. No doubt good intentioned but unless one is recently experienced and at the top of their game, well.... There doesn't seem to be a deep water issue there. No buddy system diving? Yes, he had a buddy. Most of the new items mention this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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