geriatrickid Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 hours ago, RotMahKid said: What a looser, one more reason for me Not to buy any of his products and of course share his tweet and the post in the Guardian. You were never in a position to purchase his products. It's not as if Thailand is set up for Tesla vehicles or you are going to be riding on the SpaceX anytime soon is it? Can you even afford a Tesla vehicle? As for posting in the Guardian, most intelligent people stopped reading it long ago. 5 hours ago, MaiDong said: For someone so apparently bright, this bloke comes across incredibly thick sometimes. Not thick, but malicious, vindictive, and mean. Musk has a long history of abusive behaviour. It's part of what made him successful, but will also most likely leave him an unhappy, broken man. 5 hours ago, Wilsonandson said: From Ironman to jackass in one tweet. He was always a jackass. It's just that he was able to cover his scat either through bullying or through intimidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 There are sometimes some slaps on the face or a little kick in the ass that gets lost ... ...and yet they would be well deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, Dustdevil said: You don't know anything about Americans. There are at least 2 million, excluding military, who live around the world outside the U.S. You seem to think you're an expert on the American people, but what I'm reading from you is tired stereotypes from Europe and the Commonwealth countries. Can you find Idaho on a map? I am an American. Americans in Thailand are not representative of Americans in general. How many Americans do you think even have a passport? Majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Another example of money and the meaning of arrogance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Berkshire said: I am an American. Americans in Thailand are not representative of Americans in general. How many Americans do you think even have a passport? Majority? Only 20% i believe. I really hope that this doesn't turn into an "American" thing because its not, its about Elon Musk who just happens to be an American. And i doubt he's to everyones choosing in the States either for that matter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timber Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I guess like Trump he doesn't understand what he is saying and thirty percent of America. "America First is really me First." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoza Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I think Vern's interview showed he was quite surprised at anyone turning up with such a silly contraption and he was smiling as the reporter asked him questions, just a bit shocked at Musk's cheek in presenting such an inappropriate item, not really vengeful or angry. it was obviously a PR mission that had badly backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, carmine said: Only 20% i believe. I really hope that this doesn't turn into an "American" thing because its not, its about Elon Musk who just happens to be an American. And i doubt he's to everyones choosing in the States either for that matter!! Thank you for the figure. And no, I never meant my original question to be a bashing of Americans (as I am an American myself). I for one never felt that America had this negative notion of expats in Thailand, at least not as much as many Europeans seem to have. So it came as a surprise to me that Musk made that comment. I honestly would like to ask him why he made that pedo comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Eligius said: I don't know the details of Musk's family life, etc., but he seems to come out with some seemingly VERY extreme statements - even about his own father. This is something he has said, for example, about his dad: '"My dad will have a carefully thought-out plan of evil. He will plan evil. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done. Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done. It's so terrible, you can't believe it," said the man who harbours plans to create habitable colonies on distant planets.' Pretty strong stuff! You can't judge him on what he said about his own father. A lot of the world's worst criminals had children. What he said about his father is close to what my wife can say about her mother. Unless you've experienced pure evil from a family member, don't judge. There isn't much in life more traumatic than an evil mother or father. Incidentally, he actually cried when talking about his father in the interview you quoted from... https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/elon-musk-the-architect-of-tomorrow-120850/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Too much reading on this forum. So is Vern a pedo or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, zoza said: I think Vern's interview showed he was quite surprised at anyone turning up with such a silly contraption and he was smiling as the reporter asked him questions, just a bit shocked at Musk's cheek in presenting such an inappropriate item, not really vengeful or angry. it was obviously a PR mission that had badly backfired. I think you nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Dough Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Mr Unsworth could make a fortune out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, tropo said: You can't judge him on what he said about his own father. A lot of the world's worst criminals had children. What he said about his father is close to what my wife can say about her mother. Unless you've experienced pure evil from a family member, don't judge. There isn't much in life more traumatic than an evil mother or father. Incidentally, he actually cried when talking about his father in the interview you quoted from... https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/elon-musk-the-architect-of-tomorrow-120850/ Whats the link to his comments about Vern Unsworth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, newatthis said: Internationally, this will pass. Millions will wake up tomorrow morning, have a nice breakfast and not even think about it. Sure, the media will do a bit more on it. Here in Thailand amongst the expats and probably on TVF, it will get milked to death BUT, in the long run, it won't hurt Musk. You sure about that? Already among his own investors he's believed to be skating on thin ice. Any move to censure him, regardless of whether it succeeds, will damage his reputation. A guy like Musk sees himself as a budding philanthropist, a la Gates. The fact that he removed the offending tweets so quickly indicates he does care about how he is perceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Vernon Unsworth hasn’t ruled out legal action over Elon Musk’s ‘pedo’ slur The Australian2:01PM July 16, 2018 The British cave diver at the centre of a bizarre attack from Elon Musk says he hasn’t ruled out taking legal action against the Tesla and SpaceX CEO. Musk’s attack played out on Twitter, when he labelled Vernon Unsworth — who played a crucial role in the rescue of the Thai soccer team — a “pedo” because he lives in Thailand. The Tesla co-founder made the claim as he defended his offer of a minisub to help the rescue effort, which Mr Unsworth had slammed as a “PR stunt.” Read more: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/elon-musk-attacks-thai-cave-rescuer-as-pedo/news-story/4d3ec6957ecbe7b81b508dca62745803 Edit by Maestro: Seeing that the above link runs up against a paywall when clicked more than once, I have looked for another source and found it here: https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/thai-boys-rescued-from-cave-find-out-about-diver-who-died-trying-to-rescue-them/news-story/4e7d8dd9330c3ec6bfc423835d1cac90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, Berkshire said: I am an American. Americans in Thailand are not representative of Americans in general. How many Americans do you think even have a passport? Majority? Correct, from my experience all the Americans I've met in Thailand are total wnkrs. Getting around with their "I'm-better-than-my-own-countrymen" attitudes because they have a passport. Nope, but the best, most friendly people I've ever met have been Americans. But y'all need to travel to the States to meet them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley01 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 With a name like Elon Musk, you would have had no chance but to evolve into a real <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 There's money with class, and money with none. I was a member of a very large golf club in Australia where I saw a lot of both. Mr. Musk put himself in the latter category very firmly with his tweet. Too late to withdraw it now. He's realised he had a bad case of foot in mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, carmine said: Whats the link to his comments about Vern Unsworth? I should be easy enough to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Fex Bluse said: On a serious note, Vern will not win this spat. The unfortunate truth, that many of us farang delude ourselves into rebutting, is that people (especially foreigners) affiliated with Thailand are given a poor reputation globally. Everyone is suspicious of farangs who end up here. And, without judging Vern, his interview (assuming it's not editorialized) lacked tact and potentially sheds some light on his character and education level. Who would tell Elon Musk to "shove it up his #$$"? Many of us won't accept that Thailand is not well-regarded by outsiders (for mostly good reasons). I avoid telling anyone that I have been based here as not doing so would open me up to unnecessary attacks. He already won this spat as Musk deleted his tweets after he got massive negative response. So nonsense post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley01 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Marley01 said: With a name like Elon Musk, you would have had no chance but to evolve into a real <deleted>. Oh come on, for this guy you could have let the w word ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I do believe Vern's tone was somewhat rude and unnecessary but I am certain Mr. Musk has taken a personal assault to an extreme and is way over the top. It might be better if both parties calm down and simply concentrate on the fact the 13 people are alive due to people like Vern and the other divers who risked their lives and the fact that a person volunteered to assist and lost his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Marley01 said: With a name like Elon Musk, you would have had no chance but to evolve into a real <deleted>. Musk was continually bullied as a kid. I can now see why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, carmine said: Whats the link to his comments about Vern Unsworth? Musk posted his comments on Twitter but he subsequently deleted his posts. A screenshot of them are included in the news article https://globalnews.ca/news/4332888/elon-musk-vern-unsworth-pedo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, HHTel said: To put that into perspective, 5.5 million brits live abroad or almost 10% Population of the US 325 million and 2 million live outside the US! Have a close look at both countries. That should explain why so many Brits can't wait to leave. A cold, damp, miserable country with millions of complainers. The problem is, once they leave they don't stop complaining about their new place of residence either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry921 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I'm with Vern on this. He should sue in Thailand under Thailand's defamation laws. He may never collect, but he can keep Elon from coming back. It's high time for Mr Musk's stock holders to rein him in and make him pick a single company to be CEO of and stop moonlighting and splitting his attention many different ways and pulling publicity stunts that are more about Elon than Tesla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I'll be watching Monday morning New York time. Financial journos are, of course, carrying the Twitter debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Puccini said: Vernon Unsworth hasn’t ruled out legal action over Elon Musk’s ‘pedo’ slur The Australian2:01PM July 16, 2018 The British cave diver at the centre of a bizarre attack from Elon Musk says he hasn’t ruled out taking legal action against the Tesla and SpaceX CEO. Musk’s attack played out on Twitter, when he labelled Vernon Unsworth — who played a crucial role in the rescue of the Thai soccer team — a “pedo” because he lives in Thailand. The Tesla co-founder made the claim as he defended his offer of a minisub to help the rescue effort, which Mr Unsworth had slammed as a “PR stunt.” Read more: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/elon-musk-attacks-thai-cave-rescuer-as-pedo/news-story/4d3ec6957ecbe7b81b508dca62745803 If Mr. Musk is still in Thailand , file defamation charges, revoke his passport, and let the chip fall as they may. Stop!!! He's a Billionaire. Nevermind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inepto Cracy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Manners maketh man. Vern went from hero to zero and class to ars€ in an international interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, jerry921 said: ... It's high time for Mr Musk's stock holders to rein him in and make him pick a single company to be CEO of and stop moonlighting and splitting his attention many different ways and pulling publicity stunts that are more about Elon than Tesla. 2 One major stockholder is already doing it. Quote Musk has repeatedly come under fire for his behavior on Twitter and for Tesla’s PR strategy, under which it aggressively attacks critics and journalists. James Anderson, a partner at Baillie Gifford, Tesla’s fourth-largest shareholder, said in a recent Bloomberg interview the company needed a period of “peace and execution”, adding: “It would be good to just concentrate on the core task.” Asked about the “pedo” tweet, Anderson told the Guardian in an email: “I intend to convey my – predictable I trust – feelings to the company tomorrow.” He declined to elaborate. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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