I would guess Musk taking aim at Narongsak Osatanakorn's statement, that his so called "mini-sub" did not fit with the mission, had something to do with Vern's rather harsh comments about the the whole thing being nothing but a PR stunt as well as his suggestion on where he should store it. 

 

Musk also does not seem to be too great in comprehending what Vern actually said. He implied that the Musk's pod would not have made it 50 meters from the start of the dive, which is from where the boys where located and not the bit were you can swim above water either. Saying that he can make a new pod which could make it to cave 5 (a map indicating what he means with cave 5 would be great) and that you could have done a surface swim there, actually proves that Vern had a point.

 

 

Why is there so much of talking? If the allegation is not true then just sue or else everybody would think you are really a “pedo”.

18 hours ago, 300sd said:

Vern

 

If you set up a "go fund me page"

 

I'm in, and mad.

Hopefully he can sue Musk in the US, not in Thailand and I am sure that there would be a lot of lawyers willing to take his case for a percentage of the amount awarded to Mr Unsworth for damages.

Wish you good luck with suing Elon Musk.
I don't think that Thailand want to get involved with your law suit.
Ask yourself the question :

"What has Musk and his Multi-million Company(s) to offer to any country and what has an expat like you to offer to any country?"
If you can not answer that question, forget a law suit and swallow your "faux" pride.
If you can answer that question, forget a law suit and swallow your "faux" pride.

 

No country will be accepting a law suit by a Thailand expat against Elon Musk.
And if a country would accept, Elon Musk would make that day one of your worst nightmares with his money.

Don't forget, it was YOU who started that mud slinging contest with depicting Musk help as silly and a "Public stunt". 
 

15 hours ago, JLCrab said:

I realize 'fraud'; was not the exact word. But whether publicity stunt or not, reference to Mr. Musk's anal cavity on CNN would not be in The Brit's favor. And if he should actually start civil action against Musk, you could bet there would be investigators to turn the Brit's private life inside out.

 

So maybe the Brit should first offer an apology to Mr. Musk for his rant on CNN which precipitated this whole unfortunate occurrence.

I have to agree with you on this. Vern Unsworth should not have said "he can stick the submarine where it hurts" and started this unfortunate war of words, it was uncalled for. Likewise Elon Musk should not have tweeted, "Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it" . It is quite clear that Elon Musk regrets sending the 'tweet' as he took it down shortly after sending it. The fact is Elon Musk is a very rich man, worth around 20 Billion USD, I am assuming Vern Unsworth is not worth that. If Vern did sue Elon it would be in the USA and I am pretty sure there would be some lawyers there that would take up this case on a contingency basis. However would it be worth it for Vern? Everyone has some skeletons in the cupboard and unless Vern is squeaky clean he might have problems to begin with as Elon's lawyers would most certainly start looking into Vern's past life. Its all the aggravation that Vern would have to deal with.

Weak old man. Have a cry

Oh dear there is a strange musky smell in those caves??

This is what happens when you have a toxic combination of Money and unintelligence!

30 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

I so agree , imagine with your name known by millions and now possibly folk thinking ' No smoke without fire '.   I would only call someone a pedo if the law courts deemed him so.

Sue the bastard Vern.

Totally agree with you, Toofarnorth. 

I can't imagine how horrendous and infuriating it would be if someone as famous as Musk had called me a paedophile on social media (reaching MILLIONS of people). This is not just some bloke in a pub calling you a name: this is WORLD-WIDE defamation of character.

Musk is a lying little scumbag, and his products are crap. 

19 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Not sure I could just forget what musk called him. 

He (diver) should not forget this accusation,, he should get him to justice to apologize and learn how to respect other's dignity,

this guy called musk or mask if he just kept quiet, he can still have some sort of respect in the public view, that at least he tried to help, but it seems the fake intention and dishonest action to just show off ...soon disclosed,

his accusation is not from someone doing good things to help people, how come that he intend to help and insulting who done the job risking his life in critical challenging conditions,, just because he did not get that level of honor to be praised as a hero in-spite of his billions?

Well, wrong doers and fake actors, pretenders are always get disclosed by their own actions,

At least in the USA, Mr. Unsworth might sue or not sue. But given that his comments on Mr. Musk were shown (repeatedly?) to millions of persons around the world on CNN, anyone who thinks this would be a slam-dunk case for the Brit diver is being legally naive.

11 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

you have a link to that stat??

 

You could start with the book "Filthy Rich" that recounts the true story of Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted paedophile with very very high connections...

11 minutes ago, Eligius said:

Totally agree with you, Toofarnorth. 

I can't imagine how horrendous and infuriating it would be if someone as famous as Musk had called me a paedophile on social media (reaching MILLIONS of people). This is not just some bloke in a pub calling you a name: this is WORLD-WIDE defamation of character.

He basically labelled any SE Asian expat a suspect pedo in one tweet 

19 hours ago, Shroud said:

Musk could easily win this case since Vern started the rant. Everyone tried to offer help in this severe situation so to blame Elon for his mini-sub and call it a PR-stunt isn't something that has valid points. In the beginning, it was the thai authorities that pleaded for international help and they got it, including Vern Unsworth. 

I'm not siding with Elon, but Vern went too far with his remarks on CNN.

I agree. The reaction from Elon Musk was however unproportional. Both remarks were hurting. I read a lot about Elon Musk and I have high regards for his inventions. To call his way of aid a PR stunt is at least as much hurting as what Elon Musk wrote. So they are even now, because both statements are untrue!

20 minutes ago, Eligius said:

Totally agree with you, Toofarnorth.

I can't imagine how horrendous and infuriating it would be if someone as famous as Musk had called me a paedophile on social media (reaching MILLIONS of people). This is not just some bloke in a pub calling you a name: this is WORLD-WIDE defamation of character.

Don't want to bang on about this too much , but I know Vern and have chatted to him in the past about caves up here and his MG with a bashed door .  My sense of humour is the sort that could say 'Hi Vern , on yer own , no kids sitting on your lap I see '     This is the sort of thing he will now have to put up with all because 'pedo ' was sent to him , think if it was you and you would get so paranoid.........................too horrible.

14 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

You could start with the book "Filthy Rich" that recounts the true story of Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted paedophile with very very high connections...

1 guy leads to a conclusion of "most".?lol!! better try again

1 minute ago, toofarnorth said:

Don't want to bang on about this too much , but I know Vern and have chatted to him in the past about caves up here and his MG with a bashed door .  My sense of humour is the sort that could say 'Hi Vern , on yer own , no kids sitting on your lap I see '     This is the sort of thing he will now have to put up with all because 'pedo ' was sent to him , think if it was you and you would get so paranoid.........................too horrible.

your sense of humour would consider that a funny greeting???

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Musk sounds like a man with major self esteem issues, just like Captain Chaos in the very white house. Anyone with such thin skin, that they have to respond to every perceived insult and slight, has serious mental issues. Many of us know that Trump is clinically insane. Perhaps Musk is too? Anyone who attacks a hero, because they said his submarine was an impractical idea, which it most certainly was, is a buffoon, and a fool. Musk is both. 

Ironic that Trumps tweet about the cave was totally appropriate and in good taste, but the lifeless Leftists came out and bashed him anyways, while defending Obama's friend Musk.

 

 

Musk was bullied as a child.  Thrown down the stairs and beaten unconscious.  Kind of on the short side, too.  He definitely has issues, but as stated, had he made that comment as the CEO of XOM or Pfizer; he would have been escorted to the exit.  But solar is all fuzzy wuzzy and oddly he is allowed to get away with murder.

Edited July 17, 20187 yr by moontang

20 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Very sad that this story that was so full of joy has degenerated like this. Musk should apologise immediately and hope Mr. Unsworth will let the matter lie. I wonder if he has any idea how nasty the Thai defamation laws are?

 

 

 

why is jurisdiction for such a defamation action in thailand?

 

Please be thankful to the people who saved the boys. World is going narrow thinking, few genuine people are still there.

A number of unsavoury, inflammatory, libelous and troll comments have been removed, along with some replies, a few of which were quite good, and I apologise for having to remove them too.

This thread is a discussion of Mr. Musks comments. A man who suggested that any white person in Thailand had to be there for underage sex, as he could think of no other reason to be there. So he defamed you all.

The next poster to make an unsubstantiated and defamatory statement against Mr. Unsworth will regret it.

 

43 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Musk sounds like a man with major self esteem issues <snip>

Yes -- Little E. should be more like Bond, James Bond.

59 minutes ago, Easy Come Easy Go said:

He basically labelled any SE Asian expat a suspect pedo in one tweet 

Yes, that's why we all should sue him.  It will give people the wrong ideas why I choose to live here. 

 

I wonder what the cave kids think about all this ?  Their hero are being accused of being a kiddie fiddler. 

 

 

 

20 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Actually, Vern Unsworth was among the firsts on site and HE convinced the Thai authorities to call for international help, not the other way round.

 

Yet nobody called for Musk and Tesla, who have nothing to do with the rescue business.

 

To top it all, Musk showed up on the last day of the rescue, when 8 boys were already out...obviously the rescuers were not going to change their successful modus operandi to please Mr Musk!

 

Having said that, I think that Mr Unsworth should let go, if only because Mr Musk has much deeper pockets than him and could unleash an army of nasty lawyers to make his life miserable...

 

A westerner has got little chance in any court case against a Thai. I know from experience.

I actually won a court case against a Thai not long after I came to Thailand to stay.

About three weeks after the case, I got an email from my lawyer say that the Judge had now changed her mind

and did not believe what I said.

8 minutes ago, weri said:

 Elon Musk another oligarchic idiot who seeks public support for his daft ideas 55555

Plenty of the public buy Tesla share though..

Surprised that they dropped only a little yesterday.. I

7 minutes ago, weri said:

 Elon Musk another oligarchic idiot who seeks public support for his daft ideas 55555

Since Tesla Motors has a market value of around USD 50 billion, about the same as GM and Ford with about 1% of their sales, at least for now, I would say he pretty well already has public support.

Jingthing

Re your comment about Musk, believe me, there is absolutely nothing at all sophisticated about the person, what on earth gave you that idea?

1 hour ago, JLCrab said:

At least in the USA, Mr. Unsworth might sue or not sue. But given that his comments on Mr. Musk were shown (repeatedly?) to millions of persons around the world on CNN, anyone who thinks this would be a slam-dunk case for the Brit diver is being legally naive.

what are you on about? 

you cant just go about publicly calling someone as being a pedo.

 

I agree sometime these laws get abused but i cant imagine a more apropriate reason to sue than this.

If someone calls you pedo in front of millions of audience what will you do?

Reminds me of the Buddhist quote " do not speak unless it improves the silence !" Something they could both embrace ?

2 hours ago, Hooliganzone said:

On Sunday, Musk fired back with a series of tweets where he said that Mr Unsworth living in Thailand was “sus”, suggesting that the only reason the British expat would choose to live in Thailand was to be involved in child sex tourism.

 

Mr Unsworth and not only him should sue the arse off Musk does his statement mean all British expats who live in Thailand are involved in child sex tourism???

And not in US courts.where the lawyers just pocket the money they settle for but in the Thai Courts where it is a Criminal lible where Musk would be liable for arrest  if he ever passed through Thailand again.  He is so sure of himself that he would ignore that and come here sure he was safe.