snoop1130 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 High-profile men arrested for alleged paid sex with males under 18 By The Nation A famous Thai university lecturer and a “high-society” man have been arrested for allegedly buying sex services from males under 18, a source at the Royal Thai Police’s Anti Trafficking in Persons Division (ATPD) said on Wednesday. A police probe concluded that the two men – who say they are innocent - were among some 200 members of a Line group chat targeting those who wanted sex with boys and would buy sex services arranged by a middleman who also worked as a convenience store employee. Following their investigation that confirmed that boys were being solicited, APTD officers applied for arrest warrants for 6-7 suspects, including someone the police are labelling a “high-society” man, over charges of allegedly buying sex services from males under 18. As well, the unnamed store employee faces charges of alleged human trafficking, the source said. The university lecturer was allegedly later implicated as a customer, leading to issuance of an arrest warrant and his arrest on Wednesday. ATPD officers are to host a press conference on Thursday to discuss both arrests at its head office in the government complex on Chaeng Wattana Road. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30351235 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-8-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thequietman Posted August 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 What are the chances that this same Uni lecturer has spoken out against the current regime? I would suggest that the odds are high but I will stand corrected when his name is finally divulged. Not saying trafficking is OK but this appears to be a paying customer from a consenting teenager. Could be wrong though! 8 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted August 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 What are the chances that this same Uni lecturer has spoken out against the current regime? I would suggest that the odds are high but I will stand corrected when his name is finally divulged. Not saying trafficking is OK but this appears to be a paying customer from a consenting teenager. Could be wrong though!Under 18s cannot "consent" to paid for sex.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thequietman Posted August 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Under 18s cannot "consent" to paid for sex. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app For females of 15, the parents can give their consent. Can U C wats wrong here? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted August 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, thequietman said: What are the chances that this same Uni lecturer has spoken out against the current regime? I would suggest that the odds are high but I will stand corrected when his name is finally divulged. Not saying trafficking is OK but this appears to be a paying customer from a consenting teenager. Could be wrong though! Two assumptions, Yeah you could be wrong... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KittenKong Posted August 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said: Under 18s cannot "consent" to paid for sex. Clearly they can, but it just doesn't happen to be legal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post balo Posted August 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 hours ago, thequietman said: For females of 15, the parents can give their consent. Can U C wats wrong here? Are you trying to justify it's okay for an old man to have sex with a teenager ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 46 minutes ago, balo said: Are you trying to justify it's okay for an old man to have sex with a teenager ? Happens everywhere sadly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chassa Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Happens everywhere. (full stop) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 Clearly they can, but it just doesn't happen to be legal.Correct. For prostitutes aged under 18 any consent they may give is irrelevant under international law to which Thailand has signed up. Sent from my SM-A500F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Another new innovation at 7-11?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said: Correct. For prostitutes aged under 18 any consent they may give is irrelevant under international law to which Thailand has signed up. Sent from my SM-A500F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Thailand/International law seems like an oxymoron to me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 10 hours ago, balo said: Are you trying to justify it's okay for an old man to have sex with a teenager ? Nope, I am saying the law is messed up in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenchair Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 17 hours ago, thequietman said: What are the chances that this same Uni lecturer has spoken out against the current regime? I would suggest that the odds are high but I will stand corrected when his name is finally divulged. Not saying trafficking is OK but this appears to be a paying customer from a consenting teenager. Could be wrong though! Teenagers are not legally allowed to consent to sex. Especially when the person that is buying them, is in a position of power and twice their age or more. A person like that is called a pedophile or child sex abuser and in some cases it's considered statutory rape. A teenager should never be given the choice by an adult to consent to sex, because though the teenager might not realise that laws are being broken, the adult knows well. The legal age in this country is 18 years old. Teachers and educators should not have sex or covet sex with their students. I hope they blow this wide open. ? oops. Name and shame. Stop the priests and teachers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenchair Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 18 hours ago, thequietman said: For females of 15, the parents can give their consent. Can U C wats wrong here? No, I can't. What's wrong? Actually, I don't think it's consent to sex but consent to marriage. It is younger for a female, because her body is designed for cohabitation sexually with a male. Sex with a male is set at 18 years, because it will hurt a lot. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 18 hours ago, thequietman said: For females of 15, the parents can give their consent. Can U C wats wrong here? Parents of under 18's cannot give consent if theres any payment involved . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: Parents of under 18's cannot give consent if theres any payment involved . Yes. Not you, but it is always interesting when this topic comes up how some want to make excuses for others sick/disgusting behavior. Sex with children has got to be the worst.. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 50 minutes ago, greenchair said: Teenagers are not legally allowed to consent to sex. Especially when the person that is buying them, is in a position of power and twice their age or more. A person like that is called a pedophile or child sex abuser and in some cases it's considered statutory rape. A teenager should never be given the choice by an adult to consent to sex, because though the teenager might not realise that laws are being broken, the adult knows well. The legal age in this country is 18 years old. Teachers and educators should not have sex or covet sex with their students. I hope they blow this wide open. ? oops. Name and shame. Stop the priests and teachers. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am questioning the laws here regarding ages of consent and the nonsense that a male can have sex with a female minor at 15 if the parents agree. It is just wrong and if they are going to leave that loophole in there to satisfy their male lust then it should be the same across the board. Otherwise the law needs to be changed and a girl at 15 should not be allowed to be in a sexual relationship with an older male just because they have given their permission. In all of these cases, money does change hands in the form of an outdated dowry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Yes. Not you, but it is always interesting when this topic comes up how some want to make excuses for others sick/disgusting behavior. Sex with children has got to be the worst.. I do not condone underage sex, let's be clear about that. However, when a female minor has sex with an older male, money does change hands in the form of a dowry. I have seen it at least 2 times in my village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, sanemax said: Parents of under 18's cannot give consent if theres any payment involved . Nonsense, payment is always involved in the form of a dowry. Give it a fancy name but it is still payment for sex. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, thequietman said: Nonsense, payment is always involved in the form of a dowry. Give it a fancy name but it is still payment for sex. We are not talking about getting married . What I said isnt nonsense . Parents can allow their 15-18 year olds to be in a relationship , although if any money changes hands , the Child prostitution laws supersede the parental consent laws . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, thequietman said: I do not condone underage sex, let's be clear about that. However, when a female minor has sex with an older male, money does change hands in the form of a dowry. I have seen it at least 2 times in my village. Dowry money is paid to the parents for their daughter to get married . Dowry money isnt paid to have sex with their daughter . (Sex probably will happened during the marriage , but the dowry money is paid for the marriage) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, sanemax said: Dowry money is paid to the parents for their daughter to get married . Dowry money isnt paid to have sex with their daughter . (Sex probably will happened during the marriage , but the dowry money is paid for the marriage) Oh please! A 45 year old Thai male want's to marry a 15 year old because he loves her? It's money for sex all wrapped up in a nonsense village wedding that he can walk away from when he tires of his new bride. If you think otherwise, then you are just lying to yourself or are very naive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, thequietman said: Oh please! A 45 year old Thai male want's to marry a 15 year old because he loves her? It's money for sex all wrapped up in a nonsense village wedding that he can walk away from when he tires of his new bride. If you think otherwise, then you are just lying to yourself or are very naive. I have no idea who the people are in your story . Dowry money is paid for marriage , dowry money isnt a payment for sex . 18 years old is the legal age for marriage BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, thequietman said: I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am questioning the laws here regarding ages of consent and the nonsense that a male can have sex with a female minor at 15 if the parents agree. It is just wrong and if they are going to leave that loophole in there to satisfy their male lust then it should be the same across the board. Otherwise the law needs to be changed and a girl at 15 should not be allowed to be in a sexual relationship with an older male just because they have given their permission. In all of these cases, money does change hands in the form of an outdated dowry. I can understand the reasoning behind the law . If two 17 year olds were in a relationship , they could both be charged for sex crimes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, sanemax said: I have no idea who the people are in your story . Dowry money is paid for marriage , dowry money isnt a payment for sex . 18 years old is the legal age for marriage BTW What's legal and what occurs in this lawless country are 2 separate things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 32 minutes ago, thequietman said: Oh please! A 45 year old Thai male want's to marry a 15 year old because he loves her? It's money for sex all wrapped up in a nonsense village wedding that he can walk away from when he tires of his new bride. If you think otherwise, then you are just lying to yourself or are very naive. But in fact there's a twist in the law that you should be aware of before you go chatting with parents. The girl or the parents can withdraw their consent and file a complaint at any time. As happened to a 17 year old boy living with a 15 to 16 year old girl. They broke up and she filed a complaint of sex with a minor. So, I have well warned my son about this law. It pays to read between the lines and not between the sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, greenchair said: But in fact there's a twist in the law that you should be aware of before you go chatting with parents. The girl or the parents can withdraw their consent and file a complaint at any time. As happened to a 17 year old boy living with a 15 to 16 year old girl. They broke up and she filed a complaint of sex with a minor. So, I have well warned my son about this law. It pays to read between the lines and not between the sheets. Yes, similar happened in my village. They had sex, she withdrew her permission and he was going to be charged with sex with a minor and even rape was mentioned.. The negotiations started and his family had to pay 400,000 baht to the offended girl. A woman scorned and all that! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, greenchair said: Sex with a male is set at 18 years, because it will hurt a lot. Hurt who with what "a lot". ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, scottiejohn said: Hurt who with what "a lot". ? His bottom would hurt scottie As the boys bottoms probably hurt when that university lecturer stuck his paid for member in the back door. This is no laughing matter. I'm just hoping they name and shame this guy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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