Void stamp twice on Tourist visa

[Travelanimal]

Greetings . Wanted to ask some insight from experts about the denial of Thai tourist visa single entry

i had an ED visa March2016- 11 Nov2017

then an single entry touris visa Nov 27 to Feb 25 for which I stayed 50 days 

then I got an Non immigrant B visa then I left my job and that visa got expired after 3 months  (Feb 2018-May2018)

I went to travel to Laos (May 2018)and Malaysia (June9)respectively and obtain VOA on both occasions . I came back to my country and after 45 days I applied for SETV which was VOID thinking that my return ticket was not back to India the next time I applied after 5 days I changed the return ticket to India . After getting passport back I saw another VOID sticker visa with no reason of rejection. Before me there was another lady who I saw had a void tourist visa too. I don’t know what is reason 

from what I think they don’t trust me for  actually will I come back after my visa expire of stay there is that the reason or there is something else . I never got any warning also . Neither I have overstayed or involved in illegal activities . I had also attached the letter to embassy about my history in Thailand and my motive .

 

p:s : Indian national applied at New Delhi. 

[IgboChief]

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I think they don’t trust me

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p:s : Indian national

Na, that definitely can't be. Why on earth should they not trust you, especially with that complete clean track record of visas.

But why not just talk to them? I assume based on your ED Visa you speak Thai fluently and can strike a good conversation to get to the root.

[Travelanimal]

4 minutes ago, IgboChief said:

Na, that definitely can't be. Why on earth should they not trust you, especially with that complete clean track record of visas.

I don’t see any other reason than that

does having a previous employement visa make it difficult to get tourist visa?

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, Travelanimal said:

I don’t see any other reason than that does having a previous employement visa make it difficult to get tourist visa?

Your employment here should not affect you getting a tourist visa.

If you submitted all the required documents to get the visa I cannot understand why you were denied the visa.

Perhaps you should get a new passport to clear the record of all your previous visas you have in it. That may help.

Or perhaps take up temporary residence some place where the New Deli embassy does not do the approval.

You can find links to the consulates in India where you could have your application would be submitted to for approval here. http://www.thaiembassy.org/main/

[Travelanimal]

Just now, ubonjoe said:

Your employment here should not affect you getting a tourist visa.

If you submitted all the required documents to get the visa I cannot understand why your were denied the visa.

Perhaps you should get a new passport to clear the record of all your previous visas you have in it. That may help.

Or perhaps take up temporary residence some place where the New Deli embassy does not do the approval.

You can find links to the consulates in India where you could have your application would be submitted to for approval here. http://www.thaiembassy.org/main/

Thank you for your response 

does having new passport helps ?

i mean if I apply with new passport can’t they have input about my previous visits ? 

And do you have idea is their any rule about if your application gets rejected is there a time period you can apply again? Cause in this case I applied just after 5 days 

I had all required documents 

may be me being unemployed went against me also

[ubonjoe]

10 minutes ago, Travelanimal said:

does having new passport helps ?

Yes it can help. Embassies have not access to immigrations records. Most go by what they see in your passport. They do not go digging through their files looking for your previous records.

I am not aware of waiting time between visa application when one is denied.

Not being employed in India might affect your application since that would be a reason for you to return to India.

 

[ubonjoe]

A inflammatory rude post has been removed.

[Travelanimal]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes it can help. Embassies have not access to immigrations records. Most go by what they see in your passport. They do not go digging through their files looking for your previous records.

I am not aware of waiting time between visa application when one is denied.

Not being employed in India might affect your application since that would be a reason for you to return to India.

 

Thank you again may be next if I ever apply will use new passport

may I also know will it create problem if I go on VOA next time . If they check my 2 void visas 

[elviajero]

I would imagine, given your history, that they do not believe your reason for going to Thailand again is for tourism and that’s why they denied a Tourist Visa.

[Travelanimal]

Just sad that I always exited on time never had any visa runs .neither any intention to work illegally but still denied while others doing illegal things are enjoying in Thailand under corrupt police shelter .

there is no encouragement for honesty

 

[BritTim]

Unlike some on this board, I am sympathetic to your problem. People from the Indian subcontinent frequently have problems getting tourist visas to come to Thailand. It is very unclear what criteria the New Delhi consulate uses when considering applications. Unfortunately, there is some racial profiling going on. I believe you are fine, but Thailand does have experiences of Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis conducting business without the right documents.

 

Some of the large travel agents will apply for visas on your behalf if you sign up for a tour through them. Maybe, that would give you a better chance.

[PoorSucker]

11 hours ago, Travelanimal said:

Thank you again may be next if I ever apply will use new passport

may I also know will it create problem if I go on VOA next time . If they check my 2 void visas 

Immigration and consulates do not share information. 

With a new passport the consulate does not know anything about your VOA, immigration in Thailand will not know about your visa void issues. 

 

Immigration is part of the Royal Thai police. 

Consulates is under the ministry of foreign affairs. 

They don't share information. 

[Travelanimal]

7 hours ago, BritTim said:

Unlike some on this board, I am sympathetic to your problem. People from the Indian subcontinent frequently have problems getting tourist visas to come to Thailand. It is very unclear what criteria the New Delhi consulate uses when considering applications. Unfortunately, there is some racial profiling going on. I believe you are fine, but Thailand does have experiences of Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis conducting business without the right documents.

 

Some of the large travel agents will apply for visas on your behalf if you sign up for a tour through them. Maybe, that would give you a better chance.

at this point of time applying even with tour agent will be risky for me as i already have 2 void visas . so its other waste exercise

at least they should give a note or reason that your application is rejected due to this . its so unprofessional

now i also wonder do these thai immigartion people understand english or was my letter useless to be attached .

while i see plenty of illegal immigrants openly working and selling stuff on roads

a genuine person gets denied . perhaps they don't know how to differentiate and put all in same category

 

[Travelanimal]

3 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Immigration and consulates do not share information. 

With a new passport the consulate does not know anything about your VOA, immigration in Thailand will not know about your visa void issues. 

 

Immigration is part of the Royal Thai police. 

Consulates is under the ministry of foreign affairs. 

They don't share information. 

thank you for the answer .  if i go on VOA with same passport will it be an issue again ?

[BritTim]

2 hours ago, Travelanimal said:

 if i go on VOA with same passport will it be an issue again ?

It is hard to say. Indian nationals are sometimes refused a VOA. However, this seems less common than refusal of tourist visas in India.

[Travelanimal]

1 hour ago, BritTim said:

It is hard to say. Indian nationals are sometimes refused a VOA. However, this seems less common than refusal of tourist visas in India.

that is the only  thing they say at time of refusal of tourist visa. Sir/Mam you can go on visa on arrival lol

anyways thanks for your response . let me see what will be my options in near future