rooster59 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Iran to unveil new fighter jet, develop missiles - minister FILE PHOTO: Iran's national flags are seen on a square in Tehran February 10, 2012. REUTERS/Morteza Nikoubazl DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran will unveil a new fighter jet next week and continue developing missile capabilities as a top priority, the defence minister said on Saturday, defying new U.S. sanctions aimed at curbing Tehran's missile programme and regional influence. Iran's navy also announced on Saturday that it has mounted a locally built advanced defensive weapons system on one of its warships for the first time, as tensions mount with the U.S. military in the Gulf. U.S. President Donald Trump withdrew the United States in May from a 2015 accord between Iran and world powers that curbed Tehran’s nuclear activity in exchange for sanctions relief. Trump said the deal was deeply flawed as it had not curbed Iran’s ballistic missile programme or reined in its support for proxies in conflicts in Syria, Iraq and Yemen. Iran has dismissed any direct talks with Washington to resolve the issues raised by Trump. "Our top priority has been development of our missile programme. We are in a good position in this field, but we need to develop it," Brigadier General Amir Hatami was quoted as saying by Fars news agency on Saturday. "We will present a plane on National Defence Industry Day, and people will see it fly, and the equipment designed for it,” Hatami added. Iran celebrates National Defence Industry Day on Aug. 22. "POSIBLE THREATS" Iran unveiled in 2013 what it said was a new, domestically built fighter jet, called Qaher 313, but some experts expressed doubts about the viability of the aircraft at the time. Iran’s functional air force has been limited to perhaps as few as a few dozen strike aircraft, either Russian or ageing U.S. models acquired before the 1979 Iranian revolution. Iranian Navy Commander Rear Admiral Hossein Khanzadi said on Saturday that "coastal and sea testing of the short range defence Kamand system were concluded successfully, and said this system was mounted ... on a warship and will be mounted on a second ship soon," the semi-official Tasnim news agency reported. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said earlier this month it held war games in the Gulf aimed at "confronting possible threats" by enemies. The U.S. military’s Central Command said it had seen increased Iranian naval activity, extending to the Strait of Hormuz, a strategic waterway for oil shipments the Revolutionary Guards have threatened to block. Iran has developed a large domestic arms industry in the face of international sanctions and embargoes that have barred it from importing many weapons. -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-08-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rskdev Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Like the ones they have already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 Good for the Iranians. It is great to a country stand up in the face of a world class blustering bully. 10 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grouse Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 Thanks Trump Great diplomatic move The real idea behind the nuclear deal was to undermine the warlike mad mullahs: economic progress in exchange for backing away from nuclear weapons. Trump has put the militants back in charge with predictable results. It would have been great to have a powerful ally in the area to balance Iraqi, Saudi, Israeli, Afghan and assorted nutters 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 It is a great misfortune for humanity that the Shah of Iran was not supported in its time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Esso49 Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Good for the Iranians. It is great to a country stand up in the face of a world class blustering bully. It is great to a country stand up in the face of a world class blustering , morally dead, bully 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 hours ago, rskdev said: Like the ones they have already. Another poster who doesn't understand that Persians are not Arabs. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tchooptip Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, billd766 said: He came to power in 1941 after an Anglo Soviet invasion toppled his father. During Mohammad Reza's reign, the Iranian oil industry was briefly nationalised, under Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, until a US and UK-backed coup d'état deposed Mosaddegh and brought back foreign oil firms. Mohammad Reza gradually lost support from the Shi'a clergy of Iran as well as the working class, particularly due to his strong policy of modernisation, laïcité, conflict with the traditional class of merchants known as bazaari, relations with Israel, and corruption issues surrounding himself, his family, and the ruling elite. Several other factors contributed to strong opposition to the Shah amongst certain groups within Iran, the most significant of which were US and UK support for his regime, clashes with Islamists and increased communist activity. There is a lot more here on Wikipedia which may not be 100% correct but certainly not 100% wrong either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi But incredibly interesting, thank you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Esso49 Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Another poster who doesn't understand that Persians are not Arabs. Absolutely true and to call a Persian an Arab is highly insulting to them. Much like calling a Scotsman English, even if in the latter's case they hoped they had have been. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulic Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 10 hours ago, Tchooptip said: It is a great misfortune for humanity that the Shah of Iran was not supported in its time. Here lies the problem. The Shah of Iran was installed by the USA and the UK. Nothing but a puppet. He was a murderous thieving thug who imprisoned and murdered 10's of thousands of his own people. That is what led to the Iranian revolution of 79. That is why Iranians hate America. If only they had not interfered politically by installing the murderous dictator the wingnut Mullas would not control Iran now. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckamuck Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 hours ago, billd766 said: Good for the Iranians. It is great to a country stand up in the face of a world class blustering bully. Yes the moral authority of Iran is a shining example of compassion and love for all. /s 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 300sd Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, billd766 said: Good for the Iranians. It is great to a country stand up in the face of a world class blustering bully. Yes that's nice. Would you also want Iran for a neighbor, if you had the choice? I'd choose the US thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, rooster59 said: Iran's navy also announced on Saturday that it has mounted a locally built advanced defensive weapons system on one of its warships for the first time, as tensions mount with the U.S. military in the Gulf. Hummm, mounting modified S-300 systems on ships? A2/AD in the Straight of Hormuz. Should be mildly interesting. No more civilian airliners getting shot down perhaps. Edited August 19, 2018 by connda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuaBS Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, 300sd said: Yes that's nice. Would you also want Iran for a neighbor, if you had the choice? I'd choose the US thanks. The US is already everybody's neighbour , listening and watching you through all your electronics , influencing your government and media. Iran doesn't. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, canuckamuck said: Yes the moral authority of Iran is a shining example of compassion and love for all. /s Compared to the moral authority of the USA, then yes it is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Grouse said: Thanks Trump Great diplomatic move The real idea behind the nuclear deal was to undermine the warlike mad mullahs: economic progress in exchange for backing away from nuclear weapons. Trump has put the militants back in charge with predictable results. It would have been great to have a powerful ally in the area to balance Iraqi, Saudi, Israeli, Afghan and assorted nutters I thought Iraqi , Saudi and Israeli were already allies, turns out you also want Afghan , which half way around the world on the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 59 minutes ago, 300sd said: Yes that's nice. Would you also want Iran for a neighbor, if you had the choice? I'd choose the US thanks. With the USA under Trump and they way they are heading now, I would choose Iran. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AsiaHand Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 hours ago, billd766 said: Good for the Iranians. It is great to a country stand up in the face of a world class blustering bully. Your lack of knowledge is overwhelminf. The tv wont let me say ignxxxxce. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AsiaHand Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Tchooptip said: It is a great misfortune for humanity that the Shah of Iran was not supported in its time. He was supported by his people until the Islam Mullahs took over in his absentee when he was getting chemo for his cancer..I got to shake his hand in 1976. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AsiaHand Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 The last time the Iranians claimed to introduced a new fighter it was found out to be a non flying mock up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted August 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, billd766 said: With the USA under Trump and they way they are heading now, I would choose Iran. Have you made travel arrangements yet to make a move over? 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyg Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BuaBS said: The US is already everybody's neighbour , listening and watching you through all your electronics , influencing your government and media. Iran doesn't. What a country doesn’t do is insufficient to hold it up for admiration. Thank god it doesn’t have the means. So.... look at what it has done and what it threatens to do and let’s just throw in their claim that Israel has no right to exist. Quite admirable. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 An inflammatory post and a reply has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BestB said: I thought Iraqi , Saudi and Israeli were already allies, turns out you also want Afghan , which half way around the world on the other side Iran borders all these countries or effectively You Americans may wish to snuggle up with Saudi and Israel. I am rather more fussy. Iraq will NEVER be an ally of America. Afganistan will never be allies with anyone unless you count Pakistan. What do you mean by "half way around the world on the other side"? Are you American? I suggest you buy some atlases, history books and also read up on the "great game" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, canuckamuck said: Yes the moral authority of Iran is a shining example of compassion and love for all. /s 1 ...compassion and love... First of all for its own people ? Edited August 19, 2018 by Tchooptip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BestB said: Have you made travel arrangements yet to make a move over? Why? I was merely answering a question given the choice of the USA under Trump or Iran. I live in Thailand with my Thai family. Neither the USA nor Iran is my neighbour. Edited August 19, 2018 by billd766 added extra text 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The US is already everybody's neighbour , listening and watching you through all your electronics , influencing your government and media. Iran doesn't.I think Iran just blocksYour internet completely.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Grouse said: Thanks Trump Great diplomatic move The real idea behind the nuclear deal was to undermine the warlike mad mullahs: economic progress in exchange for backing away from nuclear weapons. Trump has put the militants back in charge with predictable results. It would have been great to have a powerful ally in the area to balance Iraqi, Saudi, Israeli, Afghan and assorted nutters Wow, Mr. Grouse, today I can fully agree with you calling Saudi and Israeli nutters. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Tchooptip said: It is a great misfortune for humanity that the Shah of Iran was not supported in its time. Hah ? The Shah was very much supported by the West. Most of all by the US and GB. To mention the Shah and humanity in one sentence is so wrong. You never heard of his unfamous secret police force, the SAVAK ? He replaced the democratically elected President Mossadegh. (Google: Operation Ajax, CIA, MI6) Without that coup the mullahs wouldn't be the rulers of Iran today. Bad luck for Iran to be in the possession of oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 hours ago, AsiaHand said: Your lack of knowledge is overwhelminf. The tv wont let me say ignxxxxce. Please enlighten us ignorant deplorables with your overwhelming knowledge. Please... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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