2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Campaign finance law.

 

If you don’t believe that was broken quit worrying then sit back and enjoy what happens next.

what law exactly. 

44 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

I can not find the law or statute broken here, if there was one.

 

Here's a nibble for our troll. Even Rudy Ghouliani isn't this obtuse.

 

You're right, there wasn't "one". there were EIGHT (8).

 

Where is "here" exactly?

 

To what are you referring?

 

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/182-cohen-plea-deal/9bc6cd47e7c48e9f9469/optimized/full.pdf

 

 

0n the understandings specified below, the Office of the United States Attorney for the Southern District ofNew York (“this Office”) will accept a guilty plea from Michael Cohen (the “defendant”) to Counts One through Eight of the above-referenced Information (the
“Information”).

 

Counts One through Five of the Information charge the defendant with evasion of personal income tax, for the calendar years 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016, respectively, in violation of 26 U.S.C. § 72011 Counts One through Five each carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 5 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 3 years; a maximum fine of $100,000, twice the gross pecuniary gain derived from the offense, or twice the gross pecuniary loss to persons other than the defendant resulting from the offense; and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

 

Count Six of the Information charges the defendant with making false statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision, from at least in or about February 2015, up to and including in or about April 2016, in violation of 18 U,S.C. § 1014. Count Six carries a maximum term of imprisonment of 30 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 5 years; a
maximum fine of $1,000,000; and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

 

Count Seven of the Information charges the defendant with willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution, from at least in or about June 2016, up to and including in or about October 2016, in violation of52 UrS.C. §§ 3011801) & 30109(d)(l)(A), and 18 U.S.C. §2(b). Count Seven carries a maximum term of imprisonment of 5 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 3 years; a maximum fine of $250,000, twice the gross pecuniary gain derived from the offense, or twice the gross pecuniary loss to persons other than the defendant resulting from the offense; and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

 

Count Eight of the Information charges the defendant with making an excessive campaign contribution, on or about October 27, 2016, in violation of 52 U.S.C. §§ 30116(a)(1)(A), 30116(a)(7) & 30109(d)(l)(A), and 1:; USC. § 20:). Count Eight carries a maximum term of
imprisonment of 5 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 3 years; a maximum fine of
$250,000, twice the gross pecuniary gain derived from the offense, or twice the gross pecuniary loss to persons other than the defendant resulting from the offense, and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

The total maximum term of imprisonment on Counts One through Eight is 65 years.

It is further understood that at least two weeks prior to the date of sentencing, the defendant shall file with the IRS, and provide copies to the Office, accurate amended personal tax returns for the calendar years 2012 through 2016.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, mcambl61 said:

what law exactly. 

Campaign Finance Law.

 

Doh!

41 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Here's a nibble for our troll.

 

You're right, there wasn't "one". there were EIGHT (8).

 

Where is "here" exactly?

 

To what are you referring?

 

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/182-cohen-plea-deal/9bc6cd47e7c48e9f9469/optimized/full.pdf

 

 

0n the understandings specified below, the Office of the United States Attorney for the Southern District ofNew York (“this Office”) will accept a guilty plea from Michael Cohen (the “defendant”) to Counts One through Eight of the above-referenced Information (the “Information”).

 

Counts One through Five oft he Information charge the defendant with evasion of personal income tax, for the calendar years 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016, respectively, in violation of 26 U.S.C. § 72011 Counts One through Five each carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 5 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 3 years; a maximum fine of $100,000, twice the gross pecuniary gain derived from the offense, or twice the gross pecuniary loss to persons other than the defendant resulting from the offense; and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

 

Count Six of the Information charges the defendant with making false statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision, firom at least in or about February 2015, up to and including in or about April 2016, in violation of 18 U,S.C. § 1014. Count Six carries a maximum term of imprisonment of 30 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 5 years; a maximum fine of $1,000,000; and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

 

Count Seven ofthe Information charges the defendant with willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution, from at least in or about June 2016, up to and including in or about October 2016, in violation of52 UrS.C. §§ 3011801) & 30109(d)(l)(A), and 18 U.S.C. §2(b). Count Seven carries a maximum term of imprisonment of 5 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 3
years; a maximum fine of $250,000, twice the gross pecuniary gain derived from the offense, or twice the gross pecuniary loss to persons other than the  defendant resulting from the offense; and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

 

Count Eight of the Information charges the defendant with making an excessive campaign contribution, on or about October 27, 2016, in violation of 52 U.S.C. §§ 30116(a)(1)(A),  30116(a)(7) & 30109(d)(l)(A), and 1:; USC. § 20:). Count Eight carries a maximum term of
imprisonment of 5 years; a maximum term of supervised release of 3 years; a maximum fme of $250,000, twice the gross pecuniary gain derived from the offense, or twice the gross pecuniary loss to persons other than the defendant resulting from the offense, and a $100 mandatory special assessment.

The total maximum term of imprisonment on Counts One through Eight is 65 years. It is further understood that at least two weeks prior to the date of sentencing, the defendant shall file with the IRS, and provide copies to the Office, accurate amended personal tax returns for
the calendar years 2012 through 2016.

thank you for the condescending  insult.

 

I was referring to the POTUS laws broken, which is the implied theme in this bubble

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Campaign Finance Law.

 

Doh!

Cohen perhaps yes, Potus?

2 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

I was referring to the POTUS laws broken, which is the implied theme in this bubble

 

OK, so you're admitting to trolling. Thank you for being honest.

 

This thread is about Michael Cohen's plea deal and is not about tRUmp.

 

Yes, Michael Cohen did mention that he violated the law at the direction of a "candidate for federal office", with the intent to influence the election. tRUmp is not named in the plea deal, and not sure why you'd even bring it up?

 

 

Just now, mtls2005 said:

 

OK, so you're admitting to trolling. Thank you for being honest.

 

This thread is about Michael Cohen's plea deal and is not about tRUmp.

 

Yes, Michael Cohen did mention that he violated the law at the direction of a "candidate for federal office", with the intent to influence the election. tRUmp is not named in the plea deal, and not sure why you'd even bring it up?

 

 

I never admitted to anything, I was asking a question. you can ignore it or throw insults

 

7 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

thank you for the condescending  insult.

 

I was referring to the POTUS laws broken, which is the implied theme in this bubble

What are "POTUS laws"?

1 minute ago, mcambl61 said:

Cohen perhaps yes, Potus?

Now you are clutching at straws.

 

The person saying Trump broke the law is Cohen, he implicated Trump both in the crime of campaign finance law and in conspiracy to break campaign finance law. He made these allegations under oath.

 

Cohen is a lawyer and so absolutely understands what he was doing.

 

But he went further, he has stated he has further evidence wrt to Trump’s knowledge off and participation in obtaining stolen emails and assistance from Russia.

 

Cohen is now being called back give a second testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee and he is also cooperating with Mueller’s inquiry.

 

Chill.

 

The truth will(despite Trump’s best efforts) out!

Catch & Kill -- 

 

Form the Indictment: https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-agreement

 

35.  MICHAEL COHEN, the defendant, caused and the payments described herein in order 
 to influence the 2016 presidential campaign. In doing so, he coordinated with one
or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the
fact, nature and timing of the payments.

 

Ouch, that's going to leave a mark. Wonder what Kellyanne knew, and when she knew it?

 

 

Edited August 24, 20187 yr by mtls2005

Cohen taped his conversations with Trump and others.

 

The National Enquirer kept documents relating to the Trump stories they bought to ‘kill’ in a safe.

 

Cohen pleaded guilty, the head of the National Enquirer gets a immunity deal.

 

Oops!

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Cohen taped his conversations with Trump and others.

 

The National Enquirer kept documents relating to the Trump stories they bought to ‘kill’ in a safe.

 

Cohen pleaded guilty, the head of the National Enquirer gets a immunity deal.

 

Oops!

 

Yes, this story has legs, with a centipede's number of shoes yet to drop.

 

/drool

 

 

I THOUGHT PECKER WOULD BE THE LAST ONE TO TURN”: TRUMP’S NATIONAL ENQUIRER ALLIES ARE THE LATEST TO DEFECT

 

As Robert Mueller’s siege closes in on Donald Trump, the president has been left to wonder which of his staff and closest allies will, after all, stay loyal. On Tuesday, Michael Cohen completed his operatic turn against his former boss when he stood in federal court and pleaded guilty to eight felonies that included making hush-money payments at Trump’s direction to women Trump allegedly had sex with. The admission effectively made Trump an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal crime.

 

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-national-enquirer-allies-defect-david-pecker-michael-cohen

One post edited.   Continued violation of Fair Use Policy is going to earn suspensions.

 

QUOTE ONLY THE HEADLINE AND 3 SENTENCES THEN A LINK TO THE REMAINDER OF THE ARTICLE.

 

 

5 hours ago, The manic said:

It's not deflection its comparison and context.  Joe Kennedy and his clan and Mayor Daley were far more corrupt.  The subject here is not just Trump but political corruption. 

If you are genuinely after comparison and context we would require some facts not just your opinion. Also is being less corrupt better than being more corrupt? Is there a place on the sliding scale of corruption where you think it is OK?

The state of New York has now joined the bandwagon and are investigating the payment of the Cohen invoices submitted for reimbursement of what he paid, payment + income tax adjustment + bonus, by the Trump Organization and two top officials of same.  This is a State investigation and Trump has no pardon powers and opens up the Trump Organization finances that the state has been trying to investigate for a long time!  In addition Cohen has been asked to discuss what he knows about the Financial Irregularities of the Trump Foundation. Is Trumpty Dumpty falling off his wall ? Pun intended!

2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

no ridiculous assumptions and generalizations here ....let alone the phony sense of superiority

Well you are certainly helping to back up the part about idiots. 

And my superiority isn't 'phony'. It's actually factual when dealing with people like yourself.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Yes, this story has legs, with a centipede's number of shoes yet to drop.

 

/drool

 

 

I THOUGHT PECKER WOULD BE THE LAST ONE TO TURN”: TRUMP’S NATIONAL ENQUIRER ALLIES ARE THE LATEST TO DEFECT

 

As Robert Mueller’s siege closes in on Donald Trump, the president has been left to wonder which of his staff and closest allies will, after all, stay loyal. On Tuesday, Michael Cohen completed his operatic turn against his former boss when he stood in federal court and pleaded guilty to eight felonies that included making hush-money payments at Trump’s direction to women Trump allegedly had sex with. The admission effectively made Trump an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal crime.

 

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-national-enquirer-allies-defect-david-pecker-michael-cohen

 

I cant believe they missed the cance for the following headline:

 

”Pecker Pokes POTUS”

13 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

”Pecker Pokes POTUS”

 

Pricks Guiliani's ability to erect a defense, Prophylactic immunity deal....Erection interference.  Classics

 

Check out the article title at the bottom of the page. "Mueller Investigation Coming to a Head."

 

Edited August 24, 20187 yr by mtls2005

Trump made the cover of Timw Magizibne again! I don't think that he will hang this one on the wall!

 

2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

well it must be true then if you believe it

I provided links to two credible news sources.  I assume you are one of those people who believe in picking and choosing your facts, someone who believes in "alternative facts".

 

 

2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

I can not find the law or statute broken here, if there was one.

 

peanut gallery commence the breathless firing!!!!!

The court has ruled that laws were broken.  Courts are places where matters of law are settled.  What you believe is irrelevant.

2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

Cohen perhaps yes, Potus?

There is no "perhaps" about Cohen, the court has ruled he is guilty.  That makes Trump, by definition, an un-indicted co-conspirator.

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There is no "perhaps" about Cohen, the court has ruled he is guilty.  That makes Trump, by definition, an un-indicted co-conspirator.

Here you go with your facts again when you know the man-child supporters don't give a **** about that!

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Well you are certainly helping to back up the part about idiots. 

And my superiority isn't 'phony'. It's actually factual when dealing with people like yourself.

again, your opinion does not grant you anything other than an opinion

41 minutes ago, Becker said:

Here you go with your facts again when you know the man-child supporters don't give a **** about that!

disseminated chiefly by former FEC chairman Bradley Smith, Trump committed no crime here because paying off former "lovers" isn’t actually a campaign expenditure — it’s a personal expenditure.

 

 

51 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There is no "perhaps" about Cohen, the court has ruled he is guilty.  That makes Trump, by definition, an un-indicted co-conspirator.

disseminated chiefly by former FEC chairman Bradley Smith, Trump committed no crime here because paying off former "lovers" isn’t actually a campaign expenditure — it’s a personal expenditure.

53 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The court has ruled that laws were broken.  Courts are places where matters of law are settled.  What you believe is irrelevant.

the court has "ruled" nothing bruce, it is a plea bargain, you see a ruling comes from a judge and jury.

 

get the facts not an emotional breathless response

7 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

the court has "ruled" nothing bruce, it is a plea bargain, you see a ruling comes from a judge and jury.

 

get the facts not an emotional breathless response

The court has accepted the guilty plea.  That makes Cohen guilty of federal felonies.

9 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

disseminated chiefly by former FEC chairman Bradley Smith, Trump committed no crime here because paying off former "lovers" isn’t actually a campaign expenditure — it’s a personal expenditure.

Neither your opinion nor the opinion of a former FEC chairman change the fact that Cohen is guilty of campaign finance expenditures in violation of federal law, a violation done with the knowledge of Trump and paid for by Trump. 

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The court has accepted the guilty plea.  That makes Cohen guilty of federal felonies.

again, not a ruling a deal

 

 

we all get the breathless anticipation and glee.

Impeachment has been the goal since day one.

What happens if you do not get your wish?