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Ex-Trump lawyer Cohen, in guilty plea, says made payments at candidate's direction


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15 minutes ago, riclag said:

MF hasn't been convicted or gone to trial. GP hasn't been to trial and the list goes on

What are you talking about? Flynn and Papadopoulos have already pleaded guilty so they're not subject to trial. They have already been 'convicted' by their own admissions - under the law they're just as guilty as if they had gone to trial and been convicted. As the captions in that graphic indicate, they're just awaiting sentencing.

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13 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Actually, Cohen's lawyer has said that his client knows a lot about the conspiracy with the Russians, and is willing to cooperate with Mueller.

 

The comments by Cohen's lawyer went a bit further than that:
 

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Michael Cohen's attorney on Tuesday night said his client had knowledge that would be "of interest" to Robert Mueller and would be willing to tell the special counsel “all that he knows."
 

“Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows,” Davis said on MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show."

 

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"Michael Cohen took this step today so that his family can move on to the next chapter. This is Michael fulfilling his promise made on July 2nd to put his family and country first and tell the truth about Donald Trump," Davis said in a statement.
 

"Today he stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election," he continued. "If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?"

 

 

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/402954-lanny-davis-cohen-is-more-than-happy-to-tell-the-special-counsel-all

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3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The comments by Cohen's lawyer went a bit further than that:

 

Yes, didn't take time to re-state that so kept it succinct.

 

Anyone who assumes that Cohen is not a threat to trump would be stoopid, or named Rudy.

 

 

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57 minutes ago, riclag said:

OMG! Hogwash! The poster said criminals in the WH! Manafort was never in the WH,,MF hasn't been convicted or gone to trial. GP hasn't been to trial and the list goes on

You can add Zimke, Devos, and Ross to the list if crims.

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1 hour ago, riclag said:

OMG! Hogwash! The poster said criminals in the WH! Manafort was never in the WH,,MF hasn't been convicted or gone to trial. GP hasn't been to trial and the list goes on

Nobody mentioned the WH, they are or were the President's Men...

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10 hours ago, bendejo said:

Witch Hunt!  And the witches are real, being captured and caged.

 

 

Pity they do not burn them at the stake no more...

 

Anyway looks like a lot of them are going to get well and truly toasted.

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8 hours ago, BobBKK said:

I really don't think so. I'm no Trump supporter, and the liberals might be orgasmic this morning, but Trump paid off a few girls?  what's the big deal? and what, what, what about Russia?  wasn't that the main focus?  where's the meat in the burger?

Bob

A number of convicted paedophiles in the UK were caught after their media devices were examined by the police. In certain cases it was entirely unrelated investigations that prompted the initial computer searches.

Should the evidence unearthed have been ignored , should those men not have been prosecuted ?

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

So far there's been no talk of Cohen cooperating with Mueller.  From what I've read and heard Cohen handled Trump's domesticate affairs ('affairs' both figuratively and literally).  Cohen may not have much of interest to Mueller that Mueller doesn't already have.

 

Manafort is a different matter.  And of course there is much about Mueller's investigation that we don't know yet.

Cohan had access to and used "Election Campaign Funds" to pay off two women who could spill the beans, hardly call that a domestic issue.

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3 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

So the Steele Dossier is a go?

 

Roger that.

 

 

Actually, Cohen's lawyer has said that his client knows a lot about the conspiracy with the Russians, and is willing to cooperate with Mueller. Cohen's activity as trump's bag-man included international locales.

 

Mueller's in-box is probably at capacity with urgent messages from everyone in the trump campaign looking for a deal. Even Eric has probably called.

 

 

Don’t be silly.

Eric doesn’t know how to use a phone. 

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The sophomoric buffoon may finally have to close down the circus! Let's see some more convictions. This is great news.

 

It wasn't long ago Trump was bragging he's the one of the best in the word at vetting help and two of his closest ex-advisors are convicted! What a joke.

 

He keeps changing staff faster than they change bed sheets at a Soi 6 whore house!

 

This is the guy who's popularity more or less originated from the Apprentice reality show where each week he's responsible for vetting people to run help a company. Now after elected president we find most of his help stinks in real life!

 

You'd think the majority of the US public would understand that being a Doctor on TV doesn't qualify you for heart surgery at the hospital down the street!

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2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

maybe if they produce enough photoshopped headlines he will resign.....

What the hell are you tying to imply with this comment?  The member who you quote posted a genuine image, so your dishonest insinuations are not welcome.

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3 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

But what will Trump trash when told to leave the "party"?

 

He is a very, very dangerous person.

 

 

Dunno...

 

He has already trashed everything.

 

One thing for sure the next occupant of the White House is sure to want a new mattress.:whistling: 

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12 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

That's because he's only 'guilty' of paying off bimbos. 

No collusion. Manafort's witch hunt is a big nothing burger ? 

 

Hmmm....If only there were a precedent for a Republican Congress impeaching a President for crimes associated with covering up an affair...

 

https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1032105596810612736/video/1

 

 

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13 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

That's because he's only 'guilty' of paying off bimbos. 

No collusion. Manafort's witch hunt is a big nothing burger ? 

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I can see a healthy portion of meat in your 'nothing burger' Mr. Boon Mee.

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14 hours ago, bendejo said:

Can't help but thinking of Al Capone here -- for all he did, what brought him down was tax evasion.

All this Cohen stuff, when you get down to the core of the whole mess, had to do with DT dipping his wick.  And of course yapping off.  You'd think someone over 70 would know when to keep their mouth shut.

 

I take it you don't have older relatives?

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15 minutes ago, thrilled said:

It’s all here say unless he has something to back it up.It’s A he said ,he said.Either way A sitting president has never been charged with A crime.Maybe get empeached 

like Clinton was.

Cohen claims to be a direct witness to the events in question. So it's not a question of hearsay.

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7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Cohen claims to be a direct witness to the events in question. So it's not a question of hearsay.

Yes. It even goes further. He is implicating himself if he is lying about it and could face years in prison for perjury. He may even have audio confirming all of this based on some reports. Trump is going down. It is over. 

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2 minutes ago, mcambl61 said:

if you think the headlines are "genuine" in nature, I have a bridge to sell you

It's quite one thing to photoshop an image in order to fool someone into believing it was a record of an actual incident. Quite another when the image is obviously satirical in intent. Or do you believe that the image of a giant headed Trump dressed in rags floating on a decrepit raft was designed to fool the public?

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Thanks for the lecture.

 

in case you did not understand, the reference was meant to infer a certain

tendency for invention of headlines based on an agenda....you know

the thing you say only your favorite potus is accused of....

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2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It's quite one thing to photoshop an image in order to fool someone into believing it was a record of an actual incident. Quite another when the image is obviously satirical in intent. Or do you believe that the image of a giant headed Trump dressed in rags floating on a decrepit raft was designed to fool the public?

wow, triggered much?

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One of the reasons that there is such a focus on Cohen is because he has a HUGE amount of information on the now disbanded (or frozen from operating) Trump Foundation, which has been involved in a number of alleged illegal activities. 

 

“For more than a decade, the Donald J. Trump foundation has operated in persistent violation of state and federal law governing New York State charities.

 

Further is this:

 

  • Trump Foundation funds were illegally used to: pay off Trump’s legal obligations; promote Trump hotels and other businesses; and purchase personal items.
  • The Trump Foundation “illegally provided extensive support to his 2016 presidential campaign.”
  • The foundation raised “in excess of $2.8 million in a manner designed to influence the 2016 presidential election at the direction and under the control of senior leadership of the Trump presidential campaign.”

 

https://qz.com/1305669/read-the-new-york-attorney-generals-lawsuit-against-donald-trump-and-the-trump-foundation/

 

The actual money for the pay off of Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal were paid out of  Trust.   Again illegal.  The people running the trust and the foundation are Trump's children.

 

In short, Cohen's information could leave to indictments of Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric Trump.   

 

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12 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Don’t be silly.

Eric doesn’t know how to use a phone. 

 

I've read a few things that claim Eric is the smart one, keeping The Family Business running while the rest are making America grate again.

Remember all those years when we thought Jeb was the smarter brother?  :wink:

 

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