Basil B Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 8 hours ago, mtls2005 said: He'll be spending a lot of time in jail/prison. And the bus going between prison and the courts. His lawyers have just found a new meaning to the words "pay dirt"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastion Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Tony Podesta did the exact same crimes as Manafort, even left his firm but was given immunity. Pays to be loyal to the Clinton's. Sent from my EVA-L19 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, sebastion said: Tony Podesta did the exact same crimes as Manafort, even left his firm but was given immunity. Pays to be loyal to the Clinton's. Sent from my EVA-L19 using Tapatalk I'm not certain if Tony Podesta has been charged yet? The last I saw, in April-ish, Mueller referred his case to federal prosecutors in NY? since the spring, Mueller made additional referrals to prosecutors in the Southern District of New York regarding whether US lobbyists failed to register their work supporting the Ukrainian government. Those referrals include Democratic lobbyist Tony Podesta and lobbyist and ex-Minnesota GOP Rep. Vin Weber. Sources told CNN that former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig was also referred by Mueller to federal prosecutors in New York. Podesta got caught up in the Muller/Manafort investigation because... Manafort and Gates paid the Podesta Group and the firm where Weber worked, Mercury Public Affairs, through a nonprofit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, which was trying to bolster the image of the pro-Russian Ukrainian government in power at the time, between 2012 and 2014. Report: Robert Mueller referred lobbyists, including Tony Podesta, to Manhattan prosecutors https://www.vox.com/2018/7/31/17637426/robert-mueller-ukraine-lobbyists-tony-podesta-vin-weber-greg-craig So no clue if Tony Podesta will face similar tax, bank fraud, fbar charges? No clue what is meant about the Clinton swipe? Seems like he's got a FAR problem at a minimum, not unlike so many in the tRUmp circle, and the general DC locale? More recently, July-ish, right-wing "news" outlets had been ginning up a story that Mueller had granted Tony Podesta immunity, in exchange for testimony against Manafort in his recently concluded Virginia trail. That "story" doesn't appear to be factual, given that what we know about the VA trial. Maybe you've been reading one of those outlets, or heard Tucker C. say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 hours ago, kbelyeu said: hahaha.. funny you said the exact same thing when Trump was running against Hillary. #MAGA Mueller Ain't Going Away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Manafort sought deal with Mueller, but talks fell apart: report President Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort sought to make a deal with authorities ahead of his second trial in Washington, D.C., but the talks fell apart, according to a new report from The Wall Street Journal. Manafort's defense team reportedly held plea discussions with prosecutors last week, but the talks stalled over objections raised by special counsel Robert Mueller. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/403889-manafort-sought-deal-with-mueller-but-talks-fell-apart-report A Manafort Pardon Is On Trump’s Radar Even If WH Counsel Needs To Be Replaced President Donald Trump is reportedly eager to pardon Paul Manafort and he might hire a new White House counsel to get the job done. Vanity Fair spoke to two people familiar with the matter who say Trump has been feuding with Don current White House Counsel Don McGahn over drafting a pardon for Manafort. His special counsel is worried about the optics associated with pardoning a man who was just convicted on eight federal charges. https://hillreporter.com/a-manafort-pardon-is-on-trumps-radar-even-if-wh-counsel-needs-to-be-replaced-6492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: Manafort sought deal with Mueller, but talks fell apart: report President Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort sought to make a deal with authorities ahead of his second trial in Washington, D.C., but the talks fell apart, according to a new report from The Wall Street Journal. Manafort's defense team reportedly held plea discussions with prosecutors last week, but the talks stalled over objections raised by special counsel Robert Mueller. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/403889-manafort-sought-deal-with-mueller-but-talks-fell-apart-report A Manafort Pardon Is On Trump’s Radar Even If WH Counsel Needs To Be Replaced President Donald Trump is reportedly eager to pardon Paul Manafort and he might hire a new White House counsel to get the job done. Vanity Fair spoke to two people familiar with the matter who say Trump has been feuding with Don current White House Counsel Don McGahn over drafting a pardon for Manafort. His special counsel is worried about the optics associated with pardoning a man who was just convicted on eight federal charges. https://hillreporter.com/a-manafort-pardon-is-on-trumps-radar-even-if-wh-counsel-needs-to-be-replaced-6492 There ends the idea that Manafort will not flip. Loyalty is not stopping him, a hope for a Presidential pardon is not stopping him, fear of the Russians is not stopping him. The flip is coming, he only needs now to accept the terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: fear of the Russians is not stopping him I still think this is a possibility, maybe remote, but WitSec would probably be part of any deal, if Manafort was under any 'foreign adversary threat'. John Dean makes an allusion for "fear of an oligarch" in this piece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 2:32 PM, ballpoint said: The thinking of the Trump supporter: Manafort is guilty and needs to pay for the crimes he committed. He was only caught because of the Mueller investigation. The Mueller investigation needs to be shut down. There's no hope for some. There's more than one person that should have been convicted of crimes and got away with them, a couple are even well known. If every guilty person on the planet were convicted of their crimes, more people would be in jail than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: a couple are even well known. Jared and Ivanka's time in the barrel will come soon, rest easy. Or did you mean Eric and Lara? Or Don Jr. and some combination of a wife and a girlfriend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 hahaha.. funny you said the exact same thing when Trump was running against Hillary. #MAGAWatch them at midterm elections. Democrats are panicking already. 555Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, alocacoc said: Watch them at midterm elections. Democrats are panicking already. 555 Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. haha yes. Ever since the start of the primaries the anti trump crowd has been saying "It's the beginning of the end for Donald Trump". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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