Dollar rises for second day as U.S., Canada end talks with no deal

[Thaidream]

It really is true- many Americans are telling others they are Canadian to fend off the disgust that others express because of Trump.  However, I am not afraid to identify myself as American and I will discuss politics and World events openly  with anyone.

 

As I have mentioned before, I could probably overlook Trump's lack of any moral compass; his inability to communicate and even his coarse and disgusting lack of any social graces or decorum- if he was doing anything to make America a better country and building good, sound relations with foreign governments and peoples.  Trump is doing just the opposite. Every country puts their own country first but not every country denigrates its allies publicly; accuses it's friends of taking advantage of America and then demanding they pay up mocking them in public forums.

 

Then you have Trump trying to convince the World there is no such thing as climate change and pulling the US out of an agreement that every other country in the World has signed and agreed upon. In addition- Trump walks out on an agreement with Iran that was negotiated  to include Russia and the EU raising the chances of war and actually increasing the chance that Iran will get nuclear weapons.

 

As far as domestic policies- Trump tried to demolish Obamacare to be replaced by a faulty bill that would throw millions of Americans into the uninsured category.  Only a single vote by Senator John McCain, an American patriot and war hero- stopped this from happening..  Trump's Immigration policy separates children from their parents and has created an intolerable situation in which some children will never be reunited with Mom or Dad. Then there is the issue of Trump giving not only tacit support but verbal support to White Nationalist groups.

This is not the America I grew up in nor the America that my Canadian friends used to love to visit and enjoy our hospitality 

 

Take heart- both Americans and Canadians- there is a US election in November 2018 that will begin to correct the Trump mistake and start the process to send Donald Trump to the scrapheap of history where he will rot in infamy.

[DJ54]

I must admit once I was asked where from I said Canada ay! This 

was there was terror risk when going through Jakarta on the train....

 

 Canada is cool....Not a Trump fan but can’t commit on NAFTA Don’t 

know enough about it.....

[bristolboy]

6 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

On Thaivisa you can just make stuff up. This place is one of the biggest echo chambers ive ever seen. 

Statements can echo regardless of whether they are true of false. The frequency of the echos is unrelated to whether it is factual or not.

[neeray]

4 hours ago, Thaidream said:

 

 

 

 

Take heart- both Americans and Canadians- there is a US election in November 2018 that will begin to correct the Trump mistake and start the process to send Donald Trump to the scrapheap of history where he will rot in infamy.

Thank you for your excellent, well composed post. As a Canadian (for now) living only an hour from the border, I used to enjoy my trips south. I have travelled most of the USA on mini vacations and except for some Americans commenting that we left our snow shoes home, even though it was the middle of summer, we enjoyed these trips and each journey/destination tremendously. The East Coast has a plethora of great places to visit, many steeped in history. I never did get to the Smithsonian, and now never will as Thailand takes over my life.

But ever since Trump took office, I like many Canadians just don't cross that border anymore.

[neeray]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 

And that is the reason why smart Canadians are boycotting alot of American products. In this day and age, globalization is the way of the future. Insularity, wall building, breaking treaties, and alienating our closest allies is the way of bullies, idiots, ignoramuses, and a true deplorable. Trump is completely incompetent when it comes to foreign policy, and cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag. 

As a single man, of course I do my own grocery shopping. It is always interesting to observe other shoppers, and have a few words with them about their choices to buy Canadian versus American. Previously, none of us really cared which country a product originated from. Trump changed our buying decisions. Our big grocers have catered to this by displaying "product of Canada" signage.

[bristolboy]

10 hours ago, vinegarbase said:

I don't agree 100% with Trump and don't blindly follow him on everything he says or does but he is doing a lot more right than what previous presidents have done in my opinion. 

Somehow I find that assertion somewhat dubious from a poster who posted comments like this:

"Donald Trump is trying his best to maneuver through the toxic waste that is in Washington and the real source of global problems. Go Trump! MAGA!"

and this:

"Donald Trump is trying his best to maneuver through the toxic waste that is in Washington and the real source of global problems. Go Trump! MAGA!

 

Never forget Mollie Tibbets! "

Edited September 1, 2018 by bristolboy

[Mac98]

18 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Id love for whoever does this to show themselves as thats got to be the most ridiculous, snowflake thing ive read in a long time. 

I was given a Canada flag beach towel by a friend from there to use as a diversion. I use it. Probably nobody even notices it or cares.

[sirineou]

18 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Id love for whoever does this to show themselves as thats got to be the most ridiculous, snowflake thing ive read in a long time. 

 Yea that's ridiculous, who in their right mind would do this?

I claim to be Venusian!! everyone knows that no one screws with the Venusians. 

[sukhumvitneon]

22 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

When will Americans realize that the sun does not shine out of their rectums?

 

 

Get some new material there champ.  US dominates Canada economically and politically and that's all that matters in these negotiations.

16 hours ago, neeray said:

 

But ever since Trump took office, I like many Canadians just don't cross that border anymore.

Poor CAD/USD exchange rate has a lot to do with this.  

16 hours ago, neeray said:

As a single man, of course I do my own grocery shopping. It is always interesting to observe other shoppers, and have a few words with them about their choices to buy Canadian versus American. Previously, none of us really cared which country a product originated from. Trump changed our buying decisions. Our big grocers have catered to this by displaying "product of Canada" signage.

This is similar to what "conservative" radio hosts pushed in the mid 2000s with the spectre of the rise of China.  "Buy American!" signage was everywhere for a bit.  Soon everyone went back to the cheap Chinese stuff.

[bristolboy]

3 hours ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Get some new material there champ.  US dominates Canada economically and politically and that's all that matters in these negotiations.

Poor CAD/USD exchange rate has a lot to do with this.  

This is similar to what "conservative" radio hosts pushed in the mid 2000s with the spectre of the rise of China.  "Buy American!" signage was everywhere for a bit.  Soon everyone went back to the cheap Chinese stuff.

In that case there was a huge price differential. If Canadians choose Canadian products over those from the USA would there also be a huge price differential?

[neeray]

3 hours ago, bristolboy said:

In that case there was a huge price differential. If Canadians choose Canadian products over those from the USA would there also be a huge price differential?

The Canadian products are more or less the same price and could get lower as volumes increase for the suppliers due to increased production. The Trump trade war has just brought more awareness to buying decisions.

There is a flip side to this though. Americans may also choose to "buy American" where possible, thus, reducing the demand for Canadian products.

[bristolboy]

Just now, neeray said:

The Canadian products are more or less the same price and could get lower as volumes increase for the suppliers due to increased production. The Trump trade war has just brought more awareness to buying decisions.

There is a flip side to this though. Americans may also choose to "buy American" where possible, thus, reducing the demand for Canadian products.

Unlike the case of Mexico, there is no serious prejudice among Americans against Canada for reasons both good and bad. The good reason is that Canada pays its worker better than the US when health benefits are included. The bad reason is that in the minds of most Americans, Canadians are mostly white so won't draw racial animus. Trump is going to have a very uphill battle to make Americans anti-Canadian.

Americans Like Canada Most, North Korea Least

https://news.gallup.com/poll/228293/americans-canada-north-korea-least.aspx

[neeray]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Unlike the case of Mexico, there is no serious prejudice among Americans against Canada for reasons both good and bad. The good reason is that Canada pays its worker better than the US when health benefits are included. The bad reason is that in the minds of most Americans, Canadians are mostly white so won't draw racial animus. Trump is going to have a very uphill battle to make Americans anti-Canadian.

Americans Like Canada Most, North Korea Least

https://news.gallup.com/poll/228293/americans-canada-north-korea-least.aspx

I don't think Trump is trying to make Americans "anti-Canadian" but he sure has altered our buying habits and our choice in travel destinations.

Yes, our minimum wage in the province I live in is $15/hour now. And for your information, our population is not all that "white" anymore.

[bristolboy]

4 minutes ago, neeray said:

And for your information, our population is not all that "white" anymore.

Which is why I wrote "in the minds of most Americans, Canadians are mostly white."

[neeray]

6 hours ago, PhonThong said:

I for one would never claim to be Canadian. Then again, I guess I grew up too close to the border and know what they really are like.  It's also funny how when they retire they seem to go to Florida, but claim to hate the U.S. Don't believe me? Take a look around Destin, Florida. Snowbirds up the wazoo. I don't care if they like Donald Trump or not. If you don't like him, then stay on your side of the border. Simple as that.

Canadians don't hate the U.S. Canadians always appreciated America until Trump illegitimately took office.

Any current anti-American sentiment is for Trump, not the American people in general.

As for Florida, rest assured, our snow birds are researching, testing and choosing alternate, winter destinations.

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.  

 

[PhonThong]

On 9/1/2018 at 11:31 AM, neeray said:

On the contrary, many people (even many Americans) feel that it is Trump who has turned Washington, and America, into that toxic waste. No longer "the greatest country in the world" !

Still is the greatest and always will be.

[neeray]

2 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Still is the greatest and always will be.

Time will tell !

 

But then "time is also a great healer". It will take time to heal the deep wounds that Trump is inflicting on "The Greatest Country in the World". (greatness is subjective)

[PhonThong]

On 9/1/2018 at 3:31 PM, brucec64 said:

Well, maybe you should travel outside of Alabama and see what’s happening in the real world.


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Can't remember the last time a catastrophe happened in the world and anyone said, "thank God the Canadians showed up".

[Srikcir]

3 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Can't remember the last time a catastrophe happened in the world and anyone said, "thank God the Canadians showed up".

Remember Puerto Rico!

Almost 3,000 dead from one of the greatest catastrophes of recent times in the United States, far exceeding Hurricane Katrina and nearly equaling the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Trump's response: “we did a fantastic job,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/opinion/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-death-toll.html

America under Trump failed.

[PhonThong]

9 hours ago, neeray said:

The Canadian products are more or less the same price and could get lower as volumes increase for the suppliers due to increased production. The Trump trade war has just brought more awareness to buying decisions.

There is a flip side to this though. Americans may also choose to "buy American" where possible, thus, reducing the demand for Canadian products.

What Canadian products? Do you mean cars? No problem. Trump will put tarrifs on them too. No one will buy one built in Canada. 

[neeray]

4 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Can't remember the last time a catastrophe happened in the world and anyone said, "thank God the Canadians showed up".

Here's one for you, pulled from Wikipedia (to get the facts accurate). The "Canadian Caper" was the popular name given to the joint covert rescue by the Canadian government and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of six American diplomats who had evaded capture during the seizure of the United States embassy in Tehran, Iran, and taking of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamist students and militants on November 4, 1979.^[1

Canadians don't blow their horn when  they assist on recues but almost every time America has one of its many weather related catastrophes, Canadians are quick to quietly offer help.

[bristolboy]

Just now, PhonThong said:

What Canadian products? Do you mean cars? No problem. Trump will put tarrifs on them too. No one will buy one built in Canada. 

It's clear you don't understand what an integrated supply chain is and how crucial they are to the North American automobile industry.

[canuckamuck]

7 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Can't remember the last time a catastrophe happened in the world and anyone said, "thank God the Canadians showed up".

But we show up just the same and do our part.

America is equally known for creating catastrophes in other countries as they are for mopping them up.

 

[neeray]

1 minute ago, PhonThong said:

What Canadian products? Do you mean cars? No problem. Trump will put tarrifs on them too. No one will buy one built in Canada. 

Had you read my posts instead of jumping to conclusions, you would realize that I was referring to grocery shopping.

[PhonThong]

2 minutes ago, neeray said:

Here's one for you, pulled from Wikipedia (to get the facts accurate). The "Canadian Caper" was the popular name given to the joint covert rescue by the Canadian government and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of six American diplomats who had evaded capture during the seizure of the United States embassy in Tehran, Iran, and taking of embassy personnel as hostages by Islamist students and militants on November 4, 1979.^[1

Canadians don't blow their horn when  they assist on recues but almost every time America has one of its many weather related catastrophes, Canadians are quick to quietly offer help.

Hardly a world catastrophe. 

[neeray]

1 minute ago, PhonThong said:

Hardly a world catastrophe. 

Forget it. You have a Trump stamp on your forehead. Let's leave this conversation until after November. Your all-pro-Trump attitude might be adjusted severely by then (if not before).

[PhonThong]

55 minutes ago, neeray said:

Forget it. You have a Trump stamp on your forehead. Let's leave this conversation until after November. Your all-pro-Trump attitude might be adjusted severely by then (if not before).

When your name is mentioned at a funeral more than the dead guy, you must be doing something right!

[neeray]

1 minute ago, PhonThong said:

When your name is mentioned at a funeral more than the dead guy, you must be doing something right!

Yeap, you got the Tramp stamp alright. I watched much of the funeral coverage for the "true hero". Never once did I hear the name of your idol mentioned. But I did hear a helluva a lot of veiled comments where speakers just could not resist drawing a comparison to the real hero and the nothing burger.

Correction: I did hear the Trump name spoken by commentators when they noted that he was not invited, more correctly, that he was not wanted and told to stay away.

[The manic]

On 9/1/2018 at 9:41 AM, spidermike007 said:

 

And that is the reason why smart Canadians are boycotting alot of American products. In this day and age, globalization is the way of the future. Insularity, wall building, breaking treaties, and alienating our closest allies is the way of bullies, idiots, ignoramuses, and a true deplorable. Trump is completely incompetent when it comes to foreign policy, and cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag. 

Smart Canadians?