39 minutes ago, stud858 said:

Laws had to be introduced because there were people with bad manners. Soon there will be laws regarding people disrespecting their mothers. In my opinion, of course.

 

Just wanted to add, in Australia laws have been introduced to stop people insulting each other such as. Racial and cultural slurs. There are certain things that you say or do to anyone will lead you to fines and prison. The laws I believe will get stricter. The law and it's exact definitions have been hot topic.

So horrifying a family by showing you've cut of the mothers head will lead to criminal charge.

So much stress in the world for all sorts of reasons, money, mental, overworking, loneliness, of course things will hit the fan, but good job for the Australian government to ensure people are respected without the need to earn it.

 

1 hour ago, stud858 said:

Just wanted to add, in Australia laws have been introduced to stop people insulting each other such as. Racial and cultural slurs. There are certain things that you say or do to anyone will lead you to fines and prison. The laws I believe will get stricter. The law and it's exact definitions have been hot topic.

So horrifying a family by showing you've cut of the mothers head will lead to criminal charge.

So much stress in the world for all sorts of reasons, money, mental, overworking, loneliness, of course things will hit the fan, but good job for the Australian government to ensure people are respected without the need to earn it.

 

“So much stress in the world for all sorts of reasons, money, mental, overworking, loneliness”

 

On that we agree, and I’m sure that a lot of today’s social problems are rooted in these thing.

 

“...good job for the Australian government to ensure people are respected without the need to earn it.”

 

Respect can of course and is to a large extent earned, but quite clearly we all of us start with a base level of ‘respect’.

 

When we meet complete strangers we don’t start off by treating them disgracefully.

 

We start with common decency, common respect and of course they and we can earn more respect or lose respect.

 

The issue to be addressed is how and why have we got to the point where we need laws to tell us to treat others with common decency and common respect?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The issue to be addressed is how and why have we got to the point where we need laws to tell us to treat others with common decency and common respect?

Strange, yes, I guess the authorities want forced silence rather then people stabbing each other in the street. Or not even that, just the bad uncomfortable feeling that someone endures during being tormented should not happen. It achieves very little positive

 

Be kind to one another. Hug a fellow person today.

10 hours ago, stud858 said:

Respect is earned doesn't apply to all situations. Eg. Mother's,  Kings and queens, judges, and presidency should get respect always regardless. In my opinion of course.

 

 

So, in your opinion, Trump doesn't have to respect the office he holds, but the people do. Because...?

6 hours ago, Spidey said:

Read my words, I did say that all media outlets have bias, even the BBC.

 

That's nice, but there is no equivalency between the BBC, CNN, NBC etc and RT or AJ. Different level of magnitude. Different ballgames, even.

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

So, in your opinion, Trump doesn't have to respect the office he holds, but the people do. Because...?

In my opinion Trump has to respect the office of presidency, the country , it's flag, it's national anthem, it's constitution, the Democratic system and all citizens of the world including his mother.

Not perfect but the people spoke. Let's see if the opposition get the votes next time. And if they do, I'll support the same. Respect the highest office of the land.

 

12 minutes ago, stud858 said:

In my opinion Trump has to respect the office of presidency, the country , it's flag, it's national anthem, it's constitution, the Democratic system and all citizens of the world including his mother.

Not perfect but the people spoke. Let's see if the opposition get the votes next time. And if they do, I'll support the same. Respect the highest office of the land.

 

 

The fact stands that Trump does not respect the office he holds. He did not exhibit such respect prior to his election either. The onus of your posts is that the people need to accept this, and moreover are beholden to the same standards the president disregards. As said earlier, "lead by example" doesn't seem to register with some.

1 hour ago, underlordcthulhu said:

Thanks for admitting you all run away from the truth when presented with it.

I get it. You say it's the truth, therefore it is.

Edited September 7, 20187 yr by bristolboy

12 hours ago, stud858 said:

Respect is earned doesn't apply to all situations. Eg. Mother's,  Kings and queens, judges, and presidency should get respect always regardless. In my opinion of course.

 

 

Actually the office or position should be respected automatically. The person occupying that position has to earn the respect.

 

When I was in the RAF for 25 years I had many officers above me but I only respected about 15% of them. The others were interchangeable and merely filled the post without bringing anything to it. A lot were merely chair warmers.

Edited September 7, 20187 yr by billd766
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Post with numerous accusations without any substantiation or sources have been removed along with replies.  

 

4 hours ago, stud858 said:

Laws had to be introduced because there were people with bad manners. Soon there will be laws regarding people disrespecting their mothers. In my opinion, of course.

 

I was pointing out that most of the people you claim deserved respect merely because of their title are only accorded "respect" due to legal penalties for not doing so.

 

Politician/pedophile/former state Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore of Alabama would have had my reluctant appearance of respect had I appeared before him in court, but there would have been nothing real about it.

27 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I was pointing out that most of the people you claim deserved respect merely because of their title are only accorded "respect" due to legal penalties for not doing so.

 

Politician/pedophile/former state Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore of Alabama would have had my reluctant appearance of respect had I appeared before him in court, but there would have been nothing real about it.

Good point. You can hate someone but still respect the title they hold. 

I'm not saying he's the most respected guy in town.

On 9/5/2018 at 7:22 AM, Spidey said:

Would removing the right of freedom of speech from the press be a breach of the First Amendment? Would this be a law broken?

 

Does it carry goal time?

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

Edited September 7, 20187 yr by riclag

39 minutes ago, riclag said:

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

Congratulations, you just won the award for most vivid imagination.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

I have spent many years working in the field of RFI (Radio Frequency Interference). I have given this expert advice before on this forum before but, in case you missed it, here it is again.

 

Purchase a 1 metre square of copper matting. Fashion a snugly fitting skull cap out of it. Wear at all times.

 

Much more effective and ascetically pleasing than tinfoil. 

8 hours ago, stud858 said:

In my opinion Trump has to respect the office of presidency, the country , it's flag, it's national anthem, it's constitution, the Democratic system and all citizens of the world including his mother.

Not perfect but the people spoke. Let's see if the opposition get the votes next time. And if they do, I'll support the same. Respect the highest office of the land.

 

You mean the way he respected the previous President?

As for respecting the flag or the national anthem, the founding fathers would be horrified by such atavistic sentiments. They wanted a Republic founded on Reason, not on primitive attachments to a standard or to a song. They knew too much of the history of Europe to have a use for that kind of thing.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

So these activist reporters who are fact checking the President (and finding many lies) are doing it to stage a coup?  Interesting.

 

What about the fact denying people who kept insisting Obama was born in Kenya; was that also an attempt at a coup?  What was the name of that orange blow-hard that became the leader of that movement?

2 hours ago, riclag said:

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

Is this what you're referring to?

The FBI leaked like a sieve in 2016, and those disclosures helped Donald Trump, according to a newly released inspector general’s report on former FBI Director James Comey’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. The 500-page report from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz suggests anti-Clinton leaking from the bureau’s New York office likely influenced Comey’s decision to announce the resumption of the email probe less than two weeks before the presidential election—a step that may have thrown the race to Trump. The FBI could be in for a bloodbath over these leaks: Horowitz says his office plans to report on multiple investigations into extensive “unauthorized media contact by FBI personnel.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/justice-department-inspector-general-leaks/

23 hours ago, riclag said:

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

You just went full tin foil man. 

Everyone knows you never go FULL tinfoil. 

3 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You just went full tin foil man. 

Everyone knows you never go FULL tinfoil. 

Yes, Mr JohnnyBangkok has engineered an impressive departure from reality.