Michael Moore compares Trump to Hitler in new documentary

[Time Traveller]

8 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Yes- I have said several times- the dossier is real and it is essentially correct.  

 

At one time Trump was essentially broke- he couldn't get loans from American banks because he was bankrupt-several times.  However, the Russians came to his aid by laundering money through the Trump Business enterprise.  They would purchase a $10 Million Condo for $20  with extra $10 million going to Trump.   It is interesting to note that Trump-has never released his tax return because he probably has a portion which shows Russian money going through his business. On the surface it would look legal to the Revenue Department (IRS) but in reality it is money laundering.

 

 

Please read again what you wrote. Either you are totally clueless, or just spreading made up stuff.

1. Tax returns don't show what you claim they do. Seriously?  Rusian money on my tax return ?---- so laughable since Tax returns show nothing more than income and Tax numbers.

2. So Trump's $10 million condo sells to the Russians for $20 million, and Trump get $10 million......do you even understand the concept of buying and selling?.......Anyone that owns property can sell to whoever they wish to, at any agreed upon price. And besides how does a Russian benefit from overpaying for something? And how does Trump benefit from selling a $10m condo and then getting $10m?

 

Please go back to school and learn at little, you're making the anti Trump resistance sound like clowns.

 

[rodney earl]

That just shows what an idiot m. moore is.!!!

[neeray]

21 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Michael Moore's 15 minutes of fame was over a long time ago. 

Trump's already-too-long moments of fame will end before long. He will be gone soon into the new year, in what form yet, we do not know. But he will not be forgotten. He will be an example to future voters to never elect such a radical again, a reality show celebrity that rivals a 3-ring circus. History books will not treat him favourably. It will take years to untangle the mess he has made, to restore America to the popular and respected country it once was.

Given time, he would have attempted to convert America from a democracy to some form of an fascist state.

But Trump's time is up!

[Nigel Garvie]

6 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

WaPo has long been discredited as legitimate media and is now nothing more than Jeff Bezos propoganda.

these ideas that compare Trump to Hitler are just racist. Why?

One person comitted genocide agains milions of Jewish people and also was the cause of tens of millions of other people's lives lost in the war. And the other person didn't kill anyone. 

When you say really dumb krap like Trump = Hitler, you're basically saying the genocide didn't happen or that Jewish lives lost were meaningless......Moore should really walk the talk and move to that socialist paradise of Venezuela that he loves so much or just go back into the hole and shut up

It appears that you haven't actually read  the article Gecko123 gave a link to, I suggest you read it thoroughly. It is well written and carefully considered by someone who knows his subject in depth. At no point does he suggest Trump=Hitler or anything remotely similar. People can then avoid having to read the sort of simplistic response that you have posted, which totally fails to reflect the contents of the sophisticated article you refer to.

Quoting from the article:-

“it’s very dangerous simply to think in historical parallels.” But parallels are precisely what we should be looking for; parallels do not intersect, meaning that current events do not have to mirror historical ones precisely or in severity to benefit from historical reflection.

[mtls2005]

Once you invoke the "Hitler" label there's no way back, unless you're a "good" Nazi, or a producer on Preacher, or a "Producer" (Springtime for Germany...).

[Time Traveller]

1 hour ago, Nigel Garvie said:

It appears that you haven't actually read  the article Gecko123 gave a link to, I suggest you read it thoroughly. It is well written and carefully considered by someone who knows his subject in depth. At no point does he suggest Trump=Hitler or anything remotely similar. People can then avoid having to read the sort of simplistic response that you have posted, which totally fails to reflect the contents of the sophisticated article you refer to.

Quoting from the article:-

“it’s very dangerous simply to think in historical parallels.” But parallels are precisely what we should be looking for; parallels do not intersect, meaning that current events do not have to mirror historical ones precisely or in severity to benefit from historical reflection.

And it appears you no nothing about the Washington Post. I don't care if the story is "well written" or not. It's propaganda BS funded by the CIA.

Read up on Operation Mockingbird. Or the fact that Bezos (sole owner of the WaPo) gets $600 million each year from the CIA in a nice contract with Amazon.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2018 by Time Traveller

[smotherb]

20 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

So are these "TSD's" (this acronym is a new one on me) a Temperature-Determined Sex, Totally Disolved Solids, TeDiuS. . . or a combination of all three?

 

(With thanks to the FT list of these and no less than 94 other definitions).

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)

 

1) Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their love of Donald Trump, to the point they will abandon all logic and reason.

2) The latest attempt by the alt-right to demonize anybody who thinks that maybe putting a reality TV star who's declared bankruptcy six times in charge of the country might not have been the best idea.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trump Derangement Syndrome

[Krataiboy]

Just now, Jingthing said:

More like his fascist message of white resentment worked well enough on enough people to win the electoral college but not the popular vote.

Dude it's not uncommon for authoritarian leaders to first get into power by election.

That he did one one election even with Russian interference does not grant him total legitimacy considering the reality that he really is a corrupt con man.

Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

The words devil and deep blue sea come to mind. Don't fret. If Trump is all you claim, he won't last. The US, thank heaven, is not the Weimar Republic. Mind you, finding a worthy replacement will be no cake-walk.

[BritManToo]

Were Hitler's children all married to Jews?

If they weren't then there's no comparison.

 

Hitler killed lots of Jews, Trump married all his kids to Jews.

I can see a difference!

Edited September 10, 2018 by BritManToo

[moontang]

26 minutes ago, smotherb said:

Nobody wants to be their dirty laundry put out and hung-up to dry. Both parties are double-dealing underhanded, shepherds for bleating sheep.

But the Left despised The Great Communicator more than DT.  Or you talking about the Dems, who got us in WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam?

[smotherb]

13 minutes ago, moontang said:

But the Left despised The Great Communicator more than DT.  Or you talking about the Dems, who got us in WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam?

Oh please, what part of "both" do you not understand?

However, since it appears you do not understand a great deal more than just the word "both," allow me to light a candle for you.

Wilson tried to keep us out of WWI. He did from 1914 until 1917. However, the Kaiser reneged on the Sussex Pledge to stop sinking neutral shipping and killing Americans and used Zimmerman, the foreign secretary to establish an alliance with Mexico to attack the US at home. Obviously, Germany had no intentions of allowing the US to stay neutral; unless, of course, we just pretty-pleased and kiss-axxed the Kaiser to stop. So, Wilson reluctantly went to congress and by 90% both houses voted to enter WWI. Bad Dems, bad.

FDR got us in to WWII, huh? This is even easier. Perhaps, you have heard of Pearl Harbor. What should FDR have said, “Why you nasty Nip-boys, just because we stopped selling you resources, you didn’t have to do this; boo hoo, boo hoo. Will you stop if we sell you more resources now?” Bad Dems again.

Korea, yes, Truman was president when the Korean war started. However, South Korea was an ally with a defense pact with the US. Granted, Truman was President when the US created S. Korea and signed the defense agreement.  Yeah, bad Dems, you should have reneged on your own defense pact.

  

Vietnam is similar. Johnson was President when the Vietnam war escalated—note I said that. However, South Vietnam had a defense pact with the US. Only this time, it was the Republicans under Eisenhower who orchestrated the creation of S. Vietnam and the US defense pact. Again, bad Dems; Johnson should have reneged on the Republican defense pact.

A last thought, Hughes the Republican opponent of Wilson in 1916 and Goldwater the Republican opponent of Johnson in 1964 were both hawkish on war. So, if either Republican had won, we would still have gone to war. Bad Dems again.

So, I’ll give you Korea; the Democrats got us into that war. Now, if the Republicans would recommend we renege on any agreement made by Dems; oh, wait, the Donald does that.  

 

Now, do I really have to explain that no one, not even the Great B-Actor, is more despised by the Dems than Donald John Trump?

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies about Hillary have been removed. 

[Krataiboy]

4 hours ago, AlexRich said:

 

Hillary was subjected to intense Russian hacking and an army of computerised and human bots bombarding people with misinformation and lies ... and it worked. There was a building in St Petersburg employing people round the clock to bombard Facebook, twitter and other platforms with anti-Clinton propaganda ... just like war propaganda but much more effective in the era of the internet and social media.

 

Like you, I'm not a Clinton fan, the Democrats should have selected a less contentious character ... but there is no question that ... Cambridge Analytica also heavily involved in this activity. And if you think that's all a bit fanciful bear in mind that even Republicans are admitting that Russia has infiltrated their election systems ... Florida being one example. This shit is real unfortunately. 

 

 

Russian activities tipped the scales

 

Sure it wasn't an inside job? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

 

[Time Traveller]

On 9/9/2018 at 10:56 AM, AlexRich said:

 

If you honestly believe that Donald Trump cares about the "poor sucker" and wants to extend him a break you really haven't done much research into his back ground and character. The "poor sucker" is the useful idiot he needed to get elected. And TDS was created by Trump supporting Fox News to denigrate his critics ... as I said, a bit of research doesn't go amiss.

 

 

You have a really hateful view of the president. 2 years into the presidency, and to date,

- he has not started any new wars (unlike Bush and Obama)

- reduced nuclear tensions in Korea through engaging with NK leader (unlike Bush and Obama)

- lowered taxes for most workers

- increased jobs for Americans, (lowest unemployment rate in 18 years and lowest jobless claims in 50 years)

And all this time media and the "deep state" conspire to undermine his policies. 

 

As President of the United States, you don't necessarily have to like him, but I beleive his ego would much prefer to be remembered as the president of a economically prosperous nation, and not the president who sunk the country.....for that reason yes I believe Trump genuinely does want to make America great again.....and beleive that the only people who dislike Trump are foreigners who've exploited america and are now worried their gravy train is coming to an end. 

And no, I didn't vote for Trump.

Edited September 10, 2018 by Time Traveller

[neeray]

3 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

You have a really hateful view of the president. 2 years into the presidency, and to date,

- he has not started any new wars (unlike Bush and Obama)

- reduced nuclear tensions in Korea through engaging with NK leader (unlike Bush and Obama)

- lowered taxes for most workers

- increased jobs for Americans, (lowest unemployment rate in 18 years and lowest jobless claims in 50 years)

And all this time media and the "deep state" conspire to undermine his policies. 

 

As President of the United States, you don't necessarily have to like him, but I beleive his ego would much prefer to be remembered as the president of a economically prosperous nation, and not the president who sunk the country.....for that reason yes I believe Trump genuinely does want to make America great again.....and beleive that the only people who dislike Trump are foreigners who've exploited america and are now worried their gravy train is coming to an end. 

And no, I didn't vote for Trump.

The only redemption I can find in your hogwash is your closing line "And no, I didn't vote for Trump".

And who could possibly care what his "ego would much prefer"? He is acting as POTUS to satisfy his ego, not to serve the American people. His ego knows no limits.

 

[watcharacters]

On 9/9/2018 at 5:20 PM, Gecko123 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/07/16/its-not-wrong-to-compare-trumps-america-to-the-holocaust-heres-why/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.522d9f9a90e8

 

Thanks for posting the link.

 

"Trump’s well-documented use of dehumanizing language is another clear similarity to the early stages of Nazi rule. He caters to a particular demographic of unhappy voters, as did the Nazis. After all, his “America First” rallying cry was “the motto of Nazi-friendly Americans in the 1930s.”"

[rodney earl]

Whatever Mr Trumps' good or bad points may be. He is far far better than the sick, twisted b.... that was the alternative. How anyone could vote for her is beyond me.!!!

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, rodney earl said:

Whatever Mr Trumps' good or bad points may be. He is far far better than the sick, twisted b.... that was the alternative. How anyone could vote for her is beyond me.!!!

When in doubt, throw some misogynistic shade.

[canuckamuck]

Trump bears very little resemblance to Hitler, but Moore would make an excellent Goebbels. 

[grin]

I take no one has seen the German movie "He's Back" from a few years ago. In it Hitler wakes up in today's Berlin and is mistaken for a comedian who impersonates Hitler. Sounds like the Michael Moore film has some parallels to the German movie even though it predated Trump. I saw it either on Netflix or Prime.

[Gecko123]

33 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Trump bears very little resemblance to Hitler, but Moore would make an excellent Goebbels. 

With their cynical manipulation of public opinion and contempt for the truth, Kellyanne Conway and Sarah Sanders are far closer soulmates to Goebbels than Michael Moore will ever be.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Gecko123

[RawboneFunksta]

Michael Moore has been found lacking in terms of veracity in previous movies he has made.

 

The suggestion that Trump and his cronies are silencing dissent and unjustifiably criticising the press is somewhat misguided.

Traditional democracy has been eroding for years, long before Trump.

Sacred cows have been created by political correctness.

PC was once a great idea but has become a weapon to silence dissent/discussion about the key issues that affect the world: Islam, Feminism, Masculinity, Migration, Ethnicity

The Political Left (progressive ideologues) have derailed such discussions by using said weapon of PC. That seems to be because they want to destroy democracy, tradition, western culture and gender roles. They are Marxists who despite the crashing failures of socialism too numerous to list still imagine it a better alternative than late capitalism. In terms of the worst aspects of capitalism, they may have a point.

 

Minorities have been given too much power and they have wielded it without mercy and often unwisely focusing on identity politics; feminism, transgender issues etc in the wildest most unrestrained manner just like kids running through a candy store. An example of the misuse of this newly acquired power was shamelessely on display in a certain tennis match yesterday where a female player claimed sexism after being reprimanded for her abusive behaviour during a loss. The WTA supported her claim because they cannot refute it. That would be political suicide and that is the problem.

 

Trump can fix the economy and when people have jobs and enough to eat a lot of other issues tend to fade away. He may be brash, vulgar and have a poor vocabulary but he is a political outsider who serves as an antidote to the liberal elites who think of the population as cattle and have no interest in values or culture but simply profits, hence the mass immigration into Europe . . . . 

Edited September 11, 2018 by RawboneFunksta

[watcharacters]

On 9/11/2018 at 7:55 AM, canuckamuck said:

Trump bears very little resemblance to Hitler, but Moore would make an excellent Goebbels. 

 

I'm curious.

 

Is there anything  President Trump could do that would cause you to no longer support him?

 

[lust]

1 minute ago, watcharacters said:

 

I'm curious.

 

Is there anything  President Trump could do that would cause you to no longer support him?

 

Yes. If he wanted to resign I wouldn’t support him. 

[watcharacters]

 

Sill on Topic I trust.

 

Michael Moore is not a fan of Trump obviously, but Bob Woodward  as a reporter would lean more towards the neutral camp.

 

I listened with great interest to this fully legal phone conversation between Woodward and Donald Trump.    Trump knew from the very beginning his words were being recorded  and he still  said what you hear on the tape.

 

Who'll be the first to claim it's phony or fake news?

 

In all its glory:

 

[watcharacters]

7 minutes ago, lust said:

Yes. If he wanted to resign I wouldn’t support him. 

 

 

Is that the only thing he could do to lose your support?

[canuckamuck]

21 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

Sill on Topic I trust.

 

Michael Moore is not a fan of Trump obviously, but Bob Woodward  as a reporter would lean more towards the neutral camp.

 

I listened with great interest to this fully legal phone conversation between Woodward and Donald Trump.    Trump knew from the very beginning his words were being recorded  and he still  said what you hear on the tape.

 

Who'll be the first to claim it's phony or fake news?

 

In all its glory:

 

Call me a sucker, but I watched the whole video and it was a total waste of time. So Trump didn't want to be interviewed for Woodward's hatchet job book. Seems like that was a good instinct. 

 

[Ahab]

Unless Trump writes a sequel to Mein Kampf, and starts having political rivals and other "undesirables" shot in the back of the head by the tens of thousands a comparison to Hitler is nonsensical. You might not like Trump, or his policies, or his rhetoric, but a comparison to a man that plunged the entire globe into armed conflict and methodically murdered millions shows that you do not have a very good grip on reality. More importantly it shows that your argument is very likely without merit.

[Ahab]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 7:49 AM, watcharacters said:

 

Thanks for posting the link.

 

"Trump’s well-documented use of dehumanizing language is another clear similarity to the early stages of Nazi rule. He caters to a particular demographic of unhappy voters, as did the Nazis. After all, his “America First” rallying cry was “the motto of Nazi-friendly Americans in the 1930s.”"

So any politician that caters to a particular demographic of unhappy voters is now similar to a Nazi?  All politicians cater to unhappy voters, and all politicians are not Nazi's, at least I don't think this is the case.

[metisdead]

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