North Korea's Kim asks Trump for another meeting in new letter

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

They are in the process of doing what? Negotiating?

Finalizing the agreement , time frame and lifting of sanctions, the fine detail, that kind of thing

[bristolboy]

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Finalizing the agreement , time frame and lifting of sanctions, the fine detail, that kind of thing

You got a source for that? Because everything I've seen says just the opposite.Who's been doing this negotiating? You're just making this stuff up.

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

You got a source for that? Because everything I've seen says just the opposite.Who's been doing this negotiating? You're just making this stuff up.

Pompeo said during a cabinet meeting last Thursday that his team was “continuing to make progress and hoping that we can make a big step here before too long.”

   Pompeo has visited NK three time already this year and he was due to go again nest week , although that may not go ahead now .

   The talks between Trump and Kim were just to come to general agreements and the finer details agreed upon at a later date .

   Both Trump and Kim stated that the full agreement will be signed by about 2020, coincidentally, just when the next USA elections are talking place

    

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

If North Korea has every right to build Nukes, then what right does the US or any other nation have to invoke sanctions? Why all the fuss in the first place?

I did mean in relation to negotiations with the USA .

[bristolboy]

43 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Pompeo said during a cabinet meeting last Thursday that his team was “continuing to make progress and hoping that we can make a big step here before too long.”

   Pompeo has visited NK three time already this year and he was due to go again nest week , although that may not go ahead now .

   The talks between Trump and Kim were just to come to general agreements and the finer details agreed upon at a later date .

   Both Trump and Kim stated that the full agreement will be signed by about 2020, coincidentally, just when the next USA elections are talking place

    

And can you point me to a source that says they came to a general agreement? Really? So, what is the nature of this general agreement? Clearly, it has to be about denuclearization since that's the core issue. I don't see any evidence that they've even arrived at a definition of what denuclearization means. And Pompeo's latest trip was canceled because they were making progress?

[bristolboy]

40 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I did mean in relation to negotiations with the USA .

What does that mean? It's okay for them to go on building them in relation to the talks but not okay for them to go on building them in relation to the rest of the world?

[sanemax]

Just now, bristolboy said:

What does that mean? It's okay for them to go on building them in relation to the talks but not okay for them to go on building them in relation to the rest of the world?

Errrm , it means  that it would nt be against the agreement with the USA to continue building nukes

The time frame hasnt been agreed upon yet , just a general agreement about what the goal for future negotiations is .

  I cannot believe that you are commenting on this subject, as you are so ill informed 

[bristolboy]

8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Errrm , it means  that it would nt be against the agreement with the USA to continue building nukes

The time frame hasnt been agreed upon yet , just a general agreement about what the goal for future negotiations is .

  I cannot believe that you are commenting on this subject, as you are so ill informed 

"Denuclearization" hasn't even been defined yet so what's the goal? And just a few posts ago, you defined the state of the negotiations as 

"Finalizing the agreement , time frame and lifting of sanctions, the fine detail, that kind of thing"

Finalizing means wrapping things up. It doesn't mean that virtually everything of importance is still to be negotiated.

If I'm so ill informed, then it should be easy for you to produce some links that show the negotiations are in the "finalizing" stage.

 

[Beats56]

On 9/11/2018 at 10:39 AM, mtls2005 said:

 

Does he have time for scientific research? I mean when he's not tweeting, and playing golf?

 

Little progress has been made, and according to satellite images and reports, North Korea has actually ramped up their nuclear production.

 

There is no need to waste nuclear material or rocket fuel on further tests as they've already proven they can deliver a nuclear warhead via a supersonic missile.

 

So claiming "success" by saying there have been "no tests" seems quite juvenile and premature?

 

Hard to believe he'll have another summit but he needs a distraction and needs to appear to be acting "presidential".

 

Nearly kicking off WW3 with a tweet is not the only example of what a doofus the president is...

 

 

Woodward: Trump drafted tweet on pulling military dependents from S. Korea

 

SEOUL, South Korea — President Donald Trump drafted a tweet calling for the evacuation of family members of U.S. troops stationed in South Korea, nearly provoking a war with the North, the author of a new book about the administration said.

 

https://www.stripes.com/news/woodward-trump-drafted-tweet-on-pulling-military-dependents-from-s-korea-1.546846

 

 

 

 

Woodward lies. The book is just a other smear campaign on Trump. Expect more of these as the November elections get closer.

[bristolboy]

17 minutes ago, Beats56 said:

Woodward lies. The book is just a other smear campaign on Trump. Expect more of these as the November elections get closer.

Thanks for the info. Ordinarily I wouldn't have believed such a post, but your sources were so convincing

[Brunolem]

21 hours ago, bristolboy said:

And can you point me to a source that says they came to a general agreement? Really? So, what is the nature of this general agreement? Clearly, it has to be about denuclearization since that's the core issue. 

Politicians are very good at drafting general agreements!

 

In your statement quoted above, you could easily replace the word "denuclearization" with "climate change".

 

There is a general agreement between all nations, save one, to try to keep climate change under control, and yet...nothing is done, or will be done...

 

But what matters for the politicians is that the paper is there, with the signatures, in a golden frame.

 

Chances that North Korea attack the US, or any other country, are close to 0% (just look at who are is two main neighbors, enough to give anyone pause).

 

On the other hand, chances that the US attack yet another country are close to 100%, but North Korea was never included in the battle plan, which focuses on the Middle East, hence the "agreement" to get rid of this pesky Korean stone in the US shoe...

[mtls2005]

22 hours ago, sanemax said:

Errrm , it means  that it would nt be against the agreement with the USA to continue building nukes

The time frame hasnt been agreed upon yet , just a general agreement about what the goal for future negotiations is .

  I cannot believe that you are commenting on this subject, as you are so ill informed 

 

 

The "Agreement" which was signed was pretty vague...

 

Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new US-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

 

Convinced that the establishment of new US-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

 

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

 

Having acknowledged that the US-DPRK summit–the first in history–was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-up negotiations, led by the US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.

 

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new US-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.

 

(Signed) DONALD J. TRUMP President of the United States of America KIM JONG UN Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea June 12, 2018 Sentosa Island Singapore