Off topic bickering removed.

12 hours ago, balo said:

Yes the flock mentality is an Asian thing I believe.

I think you mean "herd mentality."  The best studies on the phenomenon were done at the University of Leeds.   Presumably the study was done there because they had so many people who were herd mentality people.  https://psychcentral.com/news/2008/02/15/herd-mentality-explained/1922.html

 

Or you could assume some people are bigots and see nothing good or smart in a particular race or nationality like your comment about herd mentality being an Asian thing. 

 

 

3 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

I think you mean "herd mentality."  The best studies on the phenomenon were done at the University of Leeds.   Presumably the study was done there because they had so many people who were herd mentality people.  https://psychcentral.com/news/2008/02/15/herd-mentality-explained/1922.html

 

Or you could assume some people are bigots and see nothing good or smart in a particular race or nationality like your comment about herd mentality being an Asian thing. 

 

 

Whether they do in fact have this kind of mentality, pointing it out doesn't make someone a bigot anymore than someone pointing out that cheeseburgers have cheese on them.

4 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

I think you mean "herd mentality."  The best studies on the phenomenon were done at the University of Leeds.   Presumably the study was done there because they had so many people who were herd mentality people.  https://psychcentral.com/news/2008/02/15/herd-mentality-explained/1922.html

 

Or you could assume some people are bigots and see nothing good or smart in a particular race or nationality like your comment about herd mentality being an Asian thing. 

 

 

Bit of a Max Weber School of Eurocentric Superiority. 

Most common delusions among the usual crowd.

24 minutes ago, pr9spk said:

Whether they do in fact have this kind of mentality, pointing it out doesn't make someone a bigot anymore than someone pointing out that cheeseburgers have cheese on them.

Who.  The people of Leeds?  If you read the study we can only assume it applies to the students at the University of Leeds.  Do you really think that's fair?

I think we can all agree that "herd mentality" is a truly universal and innate human tendency, even in the most "individualistic" countries, such as the US.

The difference is that the citizens of countries such as the US live under the delusion that they're somehow free-thinking and independent when they're really just imitating others in their social group.

 

Eastern countries are traditionally high-context countries, so there is no such delusion involved.

On 10/8/2018 at 3:41 AM, balo said:

Yes the flock mentality is an Asian thing I believe. 

 

Not a flock, but rather a school of fish...they move and change directions all at once!

 

Which is why it is very dangerous to bet the (tourism) farm on Chinese visitors.

 

If, for whatever reason some of them decide to move to other shores, or not move at all, Thailand will not lose some Chinese tourists, but all of them...at once!

 

And it will happen...just wait...

On 10/5/2018 at 9:42 AM, marcusarelus said:

Sandholm, a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon University, along with doctorate student Noam Brown, developed AI software capable of doing just that. The program, called Libratus, successfully defeated four professional poker players in a 20-day competition that ended on Jan. 30. After playing 120,000 hands of heads-up, no-limit Texas Hold’em, Libratus was ahead of its human challengers by more than $1.7 million in chips.

 

http://time.com/4656011/artificial-intelligence-ai-poker-tournament-libratus-cmu/

 

While I was serving my sentence, I had some time on my hands to go search for poker, about which I knew little.

 

Turns out that Texas hold'em poker is not at all what I had in mind when referring to artificial intelligence.

 

Texas hold'em is James Bond kind of poker, while I was thinking about the more traditional cowboy kind of poker, with four guys sitting around a table, each holding his five cards close to the chest.

 

In Texas hold'em, there are up to five cards face up on the table for everyone to see.

 

Thus, a computer has something to...well...compute with, being able to enter in complex probability calculations, whereas in traditional poker, there is absolutely nothing to feed to a computer...only experience and (real) intelligence matter.

 

When artificial intelligence will be able to compete in such a game, then it will be much closer to human intelligence.

I was actually doing long Country driving trips recently in Australia,driving  into the Country areas and towns, I was surprised to see Thai massage shops in Australian country towns some with populations of 300 people !!!

 

How the hell do they make any money ???

 

surely they do a business plan before opening?

 

In Zen, the mind IS the problem. Drop the mind and all will become clear. The answer is beyond words, it is not possible to put in words. Words degrade the truth.

Thinking,  I'll assume the type that resembles reasoning, cognition, critical thought. It's a fascinating topic I think about it a lot .

I reason that if my arm hurts and I rub it,  it will feel better, so I do it.  This comes about with my emotion, instinct and experience. A Thai person will do the same cognitive task in this case because of the instant gratification.

but the problem I think lies with future thought. The ability to truly see the benefit ahead. Asian stereotype minds lack this I believe. And it's interesting to note in the Thai language, time is not well represented in grammar as it is in the English language which includes very specific tense.

Also, Thai time as being on time is an anomoly.

So, if time travel were made possible, the stereotype of not thinking may disappear.

 

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, stud858 said:

Thinking,  I'll assume the type that resembles reasoning, cognition, critical thought. It's a fascinating topic I think about it a lot .

I reason that if my arm hurts and I rub it,  it will feel better, so I do it.  This comes about with my emotion, instinct and experience. A Thai person will do the same cognitive task in this case because of the instant gratification.

but the problem I think lies with future thought. The ability to truly see the benefit ahead. Asian stereotype minds lack this I believe. And it's interesting to note in the Thai language, time is not well represented in grammar as it is in the English language which includes very specific tense.

Also, Thai time as being on time is an anomoly.

So, if time travel were made possible, the stereotype of not thinking may disappear.A

Asian stereotypes are described as team players who are empathetic, thoughtful, steady and measured as opposed to bold, brash types.  Japanese car production and design will demonstrate these traits.

I get accused of working too hard, and then I take a break and get accused of being too lazy (can't make this stuff up). It really makes you think. 

 

I get accused of thinking too much. When I stop thinking I then get accused of doing atupid stuff. 

20 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Asian stereotypes are described as team players who are empathetic, thoughtful, steady and measured as opposed to bold, brash types.  Japanese car production and design will demonstrate these traits.

I chatted to my Uncle today who worked for Toyota 40 years. The topic of Asia and Japan came up and we couldn't understand how Japanese got involved in a war in the first place. Steady and measured in the Japanese engineering industry, I agree. Empathetic, not sure. Thoughtful, yes and no. Haha. Stereotypes are so stereotypical.

 

After 10 years in thailand I stopped thinking, better for your health.

The other day i talked to an American having been in thailand for 11 years. He told me he lost his brains.

On 9/30/2018 at 6:36 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO pretty arrogant to accuse an entire race of some deficiency of intellect.

If comparing cultures/ races, I know many in a western country that think sport is important, which to my mind is pretty ignorant, but I wouldn't accuse the entire country of being dumb because of it.

Then, why are you a trump supporter?

Every person has the right for opinion. Of course, we may disagree with their views on life, but if they like it so much, let them think and do what they want.

On 10/8/2018 at 2:11 AM, balo said:

Yes the flock mentality is an Asian thing I believe. 

 

Really?

Just observe how the "likes" are done on TVF - hardly an Asian "thing"!

Try to  be more unbiased and neutral...

On 9/27/2018 at 9:23 AM, afsheen said:

I noticed that even if you talk about the most simple thing, thai people will often say either "You think too much",  "Not think too much" or "stop think, make headache"

 

Why are Thai people so against thinking? Is it something to do with Buddhism?

 

It's our ability to think that separate us humans from monkeys and other animals. If we dont think then we become same as monkeys.

 

 

The wish to think critically is there but Thais are taught to shut up and put up.

To justify their lack of critical thinking and as not to challenge authorities, Thais have surrounded themselves with etiquette, rules, ways of thinking and slogans to signal that someone is going too far, for example: "You think too much". My wife says that all the time to me as well as: "Stop going back to the past". 

I recently told her that I am who I am because of my past and because I have analysed my past and my mistakes so that I don't make them again. After a lengthy debate, she broke down in tears and told me that for over a decade, she had tried to forget what her ex husband did to her. More recently, he has illegally rented out her secondary property and house to strangers without her consent. However, she will not challenge him or take any action because she wants to move forward. Yes, if you can't change a situation, moving forward is a great strategy, but she is still paying off his debt from over a decade ago because she did not open her mouth when they got divorced and now he's making money off of her land that does not belong to him.

I love my wife. She's a hard working and honest Thai. But she's been conditioned like most Thais (but not all) to look the other way. Many cultures have similar but not quite as invasive thinking. For example, when my mean brother stole, hid or broke my toys, and I wanted to hit him, my mother would say to me in German: "Der Kluegere gibt nach" [Engl. the intelligent person gives in]. I actually lived almost half my life with that thinking controlling my actions until I decided in my late twenties to throw off the shackles that my German mother had imposed upon me. If someone abuses me, why should I look the other way? The bible also regurgitates similar crap about presenting the other cheek. That just gives a-holes like my brother and my wife's ex-husband reason to continue the abuse. I remember my brother grinning every time my mother let loose that phrase because it was a ticket for him to continue the abuse. I wished my wife would listen, or read, this story.

So, there's nothing magical, serene or wonderful about Thais. They are human beings with the same frailties and societal issues as any other culture. My step children are definitely not traditional Thai, and my two biological Thai children from a previous marriage, want nothing to do with Thailand as they have sampled other more advanced societies where self-imposed ignorance is no longer seen as good. I am sure Thais will wake up one day.

On 9/27/2018 at 9:23 AM, afsheen said:

I noticed that even if you talk about the most simple thing, thai people will often say either "You think too much",  "Not think too much" or "stop think, make headache"

 

Why are Thai people so against thinking? Is it something to do with Buddhism?

 

It's our ability to think that separate us humans from monkeys and other animals. If we dont think then we become same as monkeys.

 

 

Why do you socialize only with Thais who "are against thinking"?

On 9/27/2018 at 9:23 AM, afsheen said:

thai people will often say either "You think too much",  "Not think too much" or "stop think, make headache"

When you say Thai people, do you mean a Thai girl who you are in a relationship with? 

 

She may not want to hear your many questions, she's just interested in payment. 

 

Ha, ha, just noticed it's a 2018 topic, digs these threads out of the closet

 

 

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