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Alcohol sales regulation => Can buy outside legal hours if the quantity is superior to X ?


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On 9/27/2018 at 1:42 PM, vogie said:

That used to be the law where if you spent over so many thousand baht you could buy alcohol outside the official hours, however the government put a stop to that 3 or 4 years ago and no alcohol can be bought outside the official hours. I have tried to buy, and told politely, no.

That is not entirely true, only applies to shops. You can buy from a wholesaler any time they are open, I do it regularly at several in Chonburi and there is no minimum spend.

May be a bit of a problem in the middle of Pattaya but should be ok around the outskirts.

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43 minutes ago, sandyf said:

That is not entirely true, only applies to shops. You can buy from a wholesaler any time they are open, I do it regularly at several in Chonburi and there is no minimum spend.

May be a bit of a problem in the middle of Pattaya but should be ok around the outskirts.

How much do you have to spend to buy from the wholesaler, I have tried buying in Bangsare, outside of Patts and told no, but in all honesty I never asked if they had a minimum spend.

Are you sure that the wholesaler are doing this legally? I was even under the impression that restaurants should legally stop serving alcohol at 1400hrs, but Thailand being Thailand...........

 

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58 minutes ago, sandyf said:

That is not entirely true, only applies to shops. You can buy from a wholesaler any time they are open, I do it regularly at several in Chonburi and there is no minimum spend.

May be a bit of a problem in the middle of Pattaya but should be ok around the outskirts.

Sandy, I have just found this on the internet, it sort of explains the new rules (2015), 

 

Edit: If I can just add the paragraph that seems pertinent to the debate.

 

Also, the old law allows for wholesale purchase of alcohol in excess of 10 liters to be made at any time of the day while any purchase under 10 liters can only be made at the specified times.

The new regulation does not allow for this, what matters now are the stated hours for purchase or sale of alcohol irrespective of quantity.

Violation of the law is subject six months imprisonment and/or a 10,000 Baht fine.

 

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/restriction-liquor-sale-time-takes-effect-today/

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21 minutes ago, vogie said:

Sandy, I have just found this on the internet, it sort of explains the new rules (2015), 

 

Edit: If I can just add the paragraph that seems pertinent to the debate.

 

Also, the old law allows for wholesale purchase of alcohol in excess of 10 liters to be made at any time of the day while any purchase under 10 liters can only be made at the specified times.

The new regulation does not allow for this, what matters now are the stated hours for purchase or sale of alcohol irrespective of quantity.

Violation of the law is subject six months imprisonment and/or a 10,000 Baht fine.

 

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/restriction-liquor-sale-time-takes-effect-today/

Not disputing what you say, I used to use the 10 litre rule at Tesco until it was abolished, then had to find an alternative.

The wholesalers do not have any notices up on restricted times and I have yet to come across one asking any questions so generally speaking alcohol is available outside the so called legal hours. Are the wholesalers legally required to only sell to those with a sales licence?, I wouldn't know.

In places like Pattaya, a wholesaler with a large number of bars in the customer base may be reluctant to sell to the general public, but away from the bars that does not seem to be the case.

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49 minutes ago, vogie said:

I was even under the impression that restaurants should legally stop serving alcohol at 1400hrs, but Thailand being Thailand...........

 

That is a real mismash. 

I went to Hua Hin recently, first time for a long time and in the afternoon the only places selling beer, at inflated prices, were those selling food. Fortunately we found a nice little stall down a side street.

It was a bit the same in Koh Chang last year, had a breakfast at 3 in the afternoon washed down by a few Changs. Yet in Pattaya there are bars open all over in the afternoon, but I think someone told me Soi 6 has been shut down during the day.

For a tourist oriented economy, they really need to get it sorted, no one likes to have socialising dictated by a clock.

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The law is indefensible, does nothing to protect kids from drinking if they want to and needs to be scrapped. How can stopping adults from having a beer in a restaurant at 4pm be justified, unless it's in a strict Muslim country? The first thing the next government should do is scrap this nonsense and let people decide for themselves when they want to buy a drink.

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If you buy more than 10 litres at one time the purchase can be made any time of the day. This is designed for other retailers, bars and restaurants and I notice in some cases Makro will ask to view your liquor licence. 

However some times there is no request for the licence.

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