Popular Post webfact Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 'We fell in love' - Trump swoons over letters from North Korea's Kim By Roberta Rampton FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un shake hands after signing documents during a summit at the Capella Hotel on the resort island of Sentosa, Singapore, June 12, 2018. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst WHEELING, WVa. (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump took his enthusiasm for his detente with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to new heights on Saturday, declaring at a rally with supporters that "we fell in love" after exchanging letters. Trump and Kim have said they want to work towards denuclearising the Korean peninsula, holding an unprecedented meeting earlier this year in Singapore to discuss the idea. Before they turned the page on decades of public acrimony, the leaders regularly traded threats and insults as North Korea pushed to develop a nuclear missile capable of hitting the United States. "I was really being tough - and so was he. And we would go back and forth," Trump told a rally in West Virginia. "And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters," he said. His supporters laughed and applauded. Trump grumbled that commentators would cast him as "unpresidential" for describing Kim in such glowing terms. The Trump administration is preparing for a second summit with Kim to talk about denuclearisation. The time and location have not yet been announced. Despite the warmer tone to the relationship, North Korea has not complied with U.S. demands to provide a complete inventory of its weapons programs and take irreversible steps to give up its arsenal. Three senior U.S. officials involved in North Korea policy said this week that no progress has been made in moving towards serious negotiations on eliminating or even halting Kim’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs. So far, all three said, speaking on the condition of anonymity, the North has not even agreed to define basic terms such as “denuclearisation”, “verifiable”, and “irreversible”. Most of the steps it has said it has taken could easily be replaced or reversed. (Reporting by Roberta Rampton; additional reporting by John Walcott; Editing by Michael Perry) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-10-01 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, webfact said: "And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters," he said. I suppose Trump will be proposing marriage via Twitter next. Edited September 30, 2018 by bluesofa misprit 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 Word of advise D.....Don't grab him on the crotch! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) "...And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters..." It is just embarrassing... "...Three senior U.S. officials involved in North Korea policy said this week that no progress has been made in moving towards serious negotiations on eliminating or even halting Kim’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs..." THIS is what is important, not Trump's pre-pubescent crush on the 'new' boy in class. If it weren't so serious, it'd be funny. However, it IS serious as a heart attack, and Trump/the USA is just getting played for a fool... Edited September 30, 2018 by Samui Bodoh Lack of coffee 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NaamGin Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters..." It is just embarrassing; hey Americans, are you proud of your President? "...Three senior U.S. officials involved in North Korea policy said this week that no progress has been made in moving towards serious negotiations on eliminating or even halting Kim’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs..." THIS is what is important, not Trump's pre-pubescent crush on the 'new' boy in class. If it weren't so serious, it'd be funny. However, it IS serious as a heart attack, and Trump/the USA is just getting played for a fool... How many missiles has NK fired since the beginning of negotiations with Trump? How about NK dismantling it's nuclear test facilities, that is just a coincidence, right? Name another POTUS that has made ANY progress in negotiating with NK in your lifetime. You can't, because it hasn't happened. Can you name the "three senior US officials" that you cite in your quote? If you can, I'm betting they have a "D" following their name, if they exist at all. After all, we know how much the MSM loves Trump and they make shit up every <deleted> day. I don't give a shit if Kim has a man-crush on Trump and vice versa, if the negotiations reduce the chance of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula and helps to re-unite the North and South, then so be it. BTW, your TDS is showing and the only embarrassment should be by those the propose to continue the nuclear standoff with a tin-pot dictator because they don't like the guy trying to bring them to heel. 5 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) The only thing in this bromance affairs that gives them both a hard-on is how many nukes each one of them has in their deadly arsenal ... Edited October 1, 2018 by ezzra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YetAnother Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: "And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, who is to say who really wrote those letters; in any event, Trump continues to flirt with being nothing less than bizarre 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mamypoko Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 MNKGA 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just as I was thinking he couldn't get any more ridiculous..... how Kim boy must be laughing 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Let's hope this love ???? affair continues! ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, NaamGin said: How many missiles has NK fired since the beginning of negotiations with Trump? How about NK dismantling it's nuclear test facilities, that is just a coincidence, right? Name another POTUS that has made ANY progress in negotiating with NK in your lifetime. You can't, because it hasn't happened. Can you name the "three senior US officials" that you cite in your quote? If you can, I'm betting they have a "D" following their name, if they exist at all. After all, we know how much the MSM loves Trump and they make shit up every <deleted> day. I don't give a shit if Kim has a man-crush on Trump and vice versa, if the negotiations reduce the chance of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula and helps to re-unite the North and South, then so be it. BTW, your TDS is showing and the only embarrassment should be by those the propose to continue the nuclear standoff with a tin-pot dictator because they don't like the guy trying to bring them to heel. And Kim has gotten the US to stop doing military exercies on the border. More importantly China and Russia have massively relaxed economic restrictions on the north. They have both cited Trump's remark that North Korea is no longer a threat. It's hard to justify continuing sanctions if you say that the target of them is no longer a threat and that the problem is solved. North Korea has already profited hugely from the "negotiations." And you're wrong about the past. Several times progress was made, or rather apparent progress only to have it fall apart. Nothing that North Korea has done so far isn't easily reversible. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaamGin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: And Kim has gotten the US to stop doing military exercies on the border. More importantly China and Russia have massively relaxed economic restrictions on the north. They have both cited Trump's remark that North Korea is no longer a threat. It's hard to justify continuing sanctions if you say that the target of them is no longer a threat and that the problem is solved. North Korea has already profited hugely from the "negotiations." And you're wrong about the past. Several times progress was made, or rather apparent progress only to have it fall apart. Nothing that North Korea has done so far isn't easily reversible. Name one POTUS that has met with the leader of NK since the end of the Korean conflict. I'll be waiting patiently. As far as "progress" being made, name one negotiation that led to NK denuclearization and normalization of relations with SK. Again, I will be waiting patiently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Until now I thought 'give him a chance, may be he is misunderstood' Now I'm afraid I'going to change my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ballpoint Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, webfact said: Trump grumbled that commentators would cast him as "unpresidential" for describing Kim in such glowing terms. No, he's cast as "unpresidential" because he is unpresidential. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, NaamGin said: As far as "progress" being made, name one negotiation that led to NK denuclearization and normalization of relations with SK. Again, I will be waiting patiently. April 27th, 2018: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met with South Korean President Moon Jae-in. It's the first time a member of the Kim dynasty has set foot on southern soil since the end of the Korean War in 1953 and the latest bid to settle the world's last Cold War standoff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaamGin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, attrayant said: April 27th, 2018: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met with South Korean President Moon Jae-in. It's the first time a member of the Kim dynasty has set foot on southern soil since the end of the Korean War in 1953 and the latest bid to settle the world's last Cold War standoff. Thanks for making my point. This was a direct result the Trump administrations negotiations with Kim Jung Un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post car720 Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, PatOngo said: Word of advise D.....Don't grab him on the crotch! and don't use his hanky to wipe it with. Remember his brother. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NaamGin said: This was a direct result the Trump administrations negotiations with Kim Jung Un. There had been no negotiations with Trump prior to that meeting, unless you count name-calling on Twitter as a form of negotiating. There had been some talks between the north and south earlier, in January and February. Here's the timeline. Clearly, things start happening in early 2018: https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron Can you describe whatever negotiations you're referring to? What agreements were reached as a result of your imagined negotiations? Edited October 1, 2018 by attrayant 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: "And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters," he said. Well gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaamGin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, attrayant said: There had been no negotiations with Trump prior to that meeting, unless you count name-calling on Twitter as a form of negotiating. There had been some talks between the north and south earlier, in January and February. Here's the timeline. Clearly, things start happening in early 2018: https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron Can you describe whatever negotiations you're referring to? What agreements were reached as a result of your imagined negotiations? Do you believe that no negotiations took place via back channels prior to these events taking place? https://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-and-trump-administration-quietly-involved-in-back-channel-diplomacy-2017-8 Matthew Pennington, Associated Press Aug. 11, 2017, 10:56 AM WASHINGTON (AP) — Beyond the bluster, the Trump administration has been quietly engaged in back channel diplomacy with North Korea for several months, addressing Americans imprisoned in the communist country and deteriorating relations between the long-time foes, The Associated Press has learned. From the article you quoted: In January 2018, another diplomatic effort began when North Korean leader Kim Jong Un declared the country's nuclear arsenal "complete" and offered to discuss with Seoul North Korea's participation in the South Korean Olympics. In March 2018 Kim requests a Summit with the US to discuss normalization of relations and denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. After decades of isolationism, why would Kim all of a sudden end this era and extend an olive branch to SK? Simply because he announces that his nuclear program is complete, so now he wants to dismantle it? All of this happened in a vacuum, right? If you attribute the NK / SK meetings to anything other than direct influence from the US, then there is no reason to continue this discussion. You have your opinion and I have facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NaamGin said: I have facts. Why don't you present them? 8 minutes ago, NaamGin said: After decades of isolationism, why would Kim all of a sudden end this era and extend an olive branch to SK? Simply because he announces that his nuclear program is complete, so now he wants to dismantle it? All of this happened in a vacuum, right? After decades of isolationism, why would Kim all of a sudden end this era and extend an olive branch to the USA? Simply because he announces that his nuclear program is complete, so now he wants to dismantle it? All of this happened in a vacuum, right? Edited October 1, 2018 by attrayant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaamGin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, attrayant said: Why don't you present them? What, you can't read? Link to BusinessInsider provided in my previous reply which referenced the AP author on the topic. You want another 100 links, go run an internet search yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Look might as well accept N Korea IS a nuclear power with Donald’s trade war China has no incentive to put the breaks on Korea Donald has given Kim what he wants with stopping the military drills yup Kim succeeded with Donald’s help chalk up another Donald failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, NaamGin said: Link to BusinessInsider provided in my previous reply which referenced the AP author on the topic. "People familiar with the contacts say the interactions have done nothing thus far to quell tensions over North Korea's nuclear weapons and missile advances, which are now fueling fears of military confrontation." "the interactions have done nothing" "But they say the behind-the-scenes discussions could still be a foundation for more serious negotiation, including on North Korea's nuclear weapons, should President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un put aside the bellicose rhetoric of recent days and endorse a dialogue." "could still be" The AP gave Trump the equivalent of a participation trophy. Better luck next time, Donald. Meanwhile, how are things progressing? Trump blames stagnant North Korea talks on US-China trade war (that he started). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 Melania heaves a sigh of relief. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 their baby would look like Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: And then we fell in love, okay? No, really - he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters," he said. Kim must have some Nigerian con artist writing these "love letters" for him, Trump you have been conned. regards Worgeordie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I wonder if Trump is aware Kim doesn't actually pen such letters. Them letters his own staff puts on his desk to sign ought to be a clue, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, NaamGin said: Name one POTUS that has met with the leader of NK since the end of the Korean conflict. I'll be waiting patiently. As far as "progress" being made, name one negotiation that led to NK denuclearization and normalization of relations with SK. Again, I will be waiting patiently. There's a good reason why no other US presidents have personally met with a Kim. A summit conference should be the culmination of negotiations. A reward for concrete progress. As it stands, Kim gained lots of prestige and got some tangible benefits as well. The so-called "agreement" that was signed at the end of the meeting stipulated nothing concrete at all about denuclearization. Not even a definition of what denuclearization means. And of course the Chinese and Russians used Trump's foolish statements about North Korea no longer being a threat and the problem being solved. As for asking about negotiations leading to denuclearization here's a link: https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron And if you note that ultimately those negotiations didn't succeed, what makes you think that these will? Are you a time traveler? Edited October 1, 2018 by bristolboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted October 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2018 Quote 'We fell in love' Can't really blame him, them Koreans are sexy. Happened to me a few times..., (sigh) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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