CanuckThai Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Cost of living is increasing steadily in Thailand. Inflation is very real, and the price for positions is not exempt, corruption is here to stay. Call it endemic, ingrained, cultural, but it simply boils down to ROI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, webfact said: The PM also warned people against sharing damaging videos. Without clue is he not .. Almost a Canute type figure trying to hold back the digi world by issuing wishful warnings .. The tourist clouting at the airport could have been on the 'Net within seconds such is the power of the smart phone and there is nothing he or anyone here can do about it .. They need to get real to the world we live in now .. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 If they sack all the corrupt officials, there won't be any left (and not just at the airports). ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, webfact said: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha has demanded that Thai immigration end the culture of bribes for visas. It ain't bribes, the officials just borrowed the money from their arriving Chinese friends with the express intention to return it upon their departure, barring any unfortunate demise of course. Just like you friend and brother-in-arms Prawit. A precedent is a precedent, no way around it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Gray Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, bluesofa said: For some reason it reminds of the saying: The pot calling the kettle black. If the tipping is so blatant, why do the people pay, there isn't enough seat on a aeroplane to return them all, its all just Asian culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Are charges still being made for "Certificate of Residency"? It cost me 500baht a time a few years back, and when I asked about the free service, I was told that would not be available for one week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 More moved to inactive posts? The most sought after position in the government. Officially don't have to do anything but still get paid. A brilliant career move for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: If you were to enforce the same thing into the police force, there would not be a force left. (except for the thousands in inactive posts.) ...and make sure the last one will lock the door properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leither69 Posted October 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2018 Tourism and sports minister Weerasak Kowsurat intimated that the paying of bribes at the airport was ingrained behavior. So admission of knowledge about bribes but failed to act previously!! Isn't that a sacking offence? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Sacked for accepting bribes, won't be many left if this continues. I'll take this as I take their talk on maritime safety after the Phoenix sank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Maybe he is telling him what to do to remind him that HE will be PM after the next election - not BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: "Sack them!" Where have you been for the last four years while the corruption flourished? Why are you speaking now? Are you equally concerned when non-Chinese get forced to pay extra? Breath-taking hypocrisy. Of course, It's do as I say not as I do. Also, he wants to be seen, ridiculous as it sounds ( because he thinks we all believe him ), to be talking up anti-corruption rhetoric for the benefit of all, especially the Chinese; as he himself is jockeying for his position at the next election. Another point, when they are comparing Chinese arrivals, why do they look at only last year and start screaming and panicking? Don't they realize that figures like these need to be analyzed over a number of years to get an average, not just year on year? They just expect the numbers to keep rising, how silly. Sometimes there could be economic problems or other reasons in their own country for not travelling as much or as often. It certainly isn't because a security guard gave one loudmouth a slap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Scouse123 said: Of course, It's do as I say not as I do. Also, he wants to be seen, ridiculous as it sounds ( because he thinks we all believe him ), to be talking up anti-corruption rhetoric for the benefit of all, especially the Chinese; as he himself is jockeying for his position at the next election. Another point, when they are comparing Chinese arrivals, why do they look at only last year and start screaming and panicking? Don't they realize that figures like these need to be analyzed over a number of years to get an average, not just year on year? They just expect the numbers to keep rising, how silly. Sometimes there could be economic problems or other reasons in their own country for not travelling as much or as often. It certainly isn't because a security guard gave one loudmouth a slap! No, but it might possibly be because around 50 Chinese tourists who came for what they thought would be an enjoyable holiday, all went home in body bags, due to an avoidable boating accident. Add to that the number being killed on the infamous Thai roads and you may come close to the real reason many Chinese are either cancelling their planned Thai holidays or going elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Sack them.. Keep the ball rolling with the 300 baht for a residence certificate they charge you at Jomtien still. Per copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Orton Rd said: If all the government officials taking bribes were sacked there would be a lot of unemployed Thais about. No unemployment in Thailand. I'm sure I read that somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Maybe he is telling him what to do to remind him that HE will be PM after the next election - not BJ Same he did for koh Tao? You don't have a dog and bark yourself. Actually, you don't have a dog with Chinese around. They will eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Tourism and sports minister Weerasak Kowsurat intimated that the paying of bribes at the airport was ingrained behavior. Some poster in another thread said it is utter rubbish when I mentioned that the IO pick and choose their victims. Those with ‘shaky’ credentials would have to fork out more (a thousand or two baht) instead of the typical 300 baht . Most white farang may not be aware of this but for us Asean citizens, it is common knowledge... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 And please continue with the bribe taking Imm officers when extending NON B visas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 10 hours ago, webfact said: Tourism and sports minister Weerasak Kowsurat intimated that the paying of bribes at the airport was ingrained behavior Only at airports? This <deleted> needs the sack too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 "figures for August showed Chinese tourism down 11.8% on the same month last year." This is a BAD thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 9 hours ago, Ctkong said: Tourism and sports minister Weerasak Kowsurat intimated that the paying of bribes at the airport was ingrained behavior. ... . Most white farang may not be aware of this but for us Asean citizens, it is common knowledge... . Thanks for that. I'm Caucasian and I wasn't aware of it. Certainly, puts a different light on the "angry Chinese tourist" incident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Good move Sir to sack "them"....but that would mean "them" ? "them" = a big portion of the Thai Police and a big portion of Thai Immigration Officials who racket and ask tourists (not only Chinese!) for bribes all over your lovely country, Sir. So please start cleaning up all the corrupt immigration officials in Bangkok, Hua Hin, Pattaya and Phuket who racket expats, retirees on a daily basis, Sir with invented hassles and threats on visa issues. With humble regards. Another humble expat retiree farang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lvr181 Posted October 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2018 20 hours ago, webfact said: The PM also warned people against sharing damaging videos. What is wrong with this guy! If it weren't for the videos this corrupt practice would continued unabated. Sheesh. They just don't understand! Always wanting to "shoot the messenger" rather than deal with the core problem. 600 years and they are still not or refusing to learn anything. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Happens at every land border crossing too, and has done for years !! When I first entered Thailand 10 years ago it was on a multi entry one year visa, obtained in my home country. Once in Thailand I had to do a border run every 90 days to get my immigration stamp. This was done via the crossing point at Aranyaprathet into Cambodia.. The fee for the Cambodian entry visa was 1,000 baht paid for at the office with the visa stuck into your passport, all with the assistance of a "middle man/helper" which was mandatory !! As soon as you crossed the border gate into Cambodia you were met by a Thai immigration officer who took your passport and asked for 300 baht from everyone. You then crossed the road and joined the queue to come back into Thailand and the immigration office to get your entry stamp !! My only surprise is that in 10 years the price hasn't increased !!!! So the question is, is BJ going to put a stop to this at every entry location or is it going to be just the high profile airports ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Happens at every land border crossing too, and has done for years !! When I first entered Thailand 10 years ago it was on a multi entry one year visa, obtained in my home country. Once in Thailand I had to do a border run every 90 days to get my immigration stamp. This was done via the crossing point at Aranyaprathet into Cambodia.. The fee for the Cambodian entry visa was 1,000 baht paid for at the office with the visa stuck into your passport, all with the assistance of a "middle man/helper" which was mandatory !! As soon as you crossed the border gate into Cambodia you were met by a Thai immigration officer who took your passport and asked for 300 baht from everyone. You then crossed the road and joined the queue to come back into Thailand and the immigration office to get your entry stamp !! My only surprise is that in 10 years the price hasn't increased !!!! So the question is, is BJ going to put a stop to this at every entry location or is it going to be just the high profile airports ?? "...high profile airports" - I would suspect. After corruption, the 2nd most important practice, in the Kingdom, is saving face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 22 hours ago, webfact said: PM Prayut tried to put a positive spin on matters but admitted tourism was down. He said he wants to see sacking of corrupt staff. This should make for quite a few job vacancies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 It's wide spread we know. In every aspect of the tourism $. The Chinese come to Pattaya in their busloads and spend where they are told to spend. Do not tip, because it goes to the group leader to distribute. Never happens. Even Phuket airport. The taxi vans cannot pick up at the exit. They have to pay a tout to show a sign or flag on their behalf.. Bus from airport to Pattaya. Full, take next one. Slip him 50 in the Palm of your hand, and you are on. Just had a survey done on land in the village. Paid the Land Office and then paid the survey team to speed it up, plus providing lunch and drink. It's not a tip for job done. It's donation to actually get it done, on top of the fees. We can all write a book on this feature of life in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 22 hours ago, webfact said: He said he wants to see sacking of corrupt staff. Both main airports would have to close through staff shortages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 23 hours ago, Darcula said: Prayut Chan-o-cha enjoys “chicken dance”.mp4 Mentally disturbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncat1 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 So by sacking the immigration officers for takings bribes ( Thai way of life ) Prayut expects an increase in Chinese tourists coming here ? If it becomes harder to get a visa or cut through the red tape Thailand will lose a lot of tourists and even long stay expats There are a lot of easier countries to go to and even live in without all this crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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