Trump likely to win whether or not Kavanaugh is confirmed

[stud858]

On 10/5/2018 at 2:16 PM, riclag said:

The Mantra of the Far Left before and during the committee meetings

     "We Will Stop At Nothing".

Decent American's are sick of the search and destroy mission tactics of the resistance and those who support it,MSM,Dem's and Far left. 

Not only decent Americans. Just say decent people who had their democratic vote, and even outside onlookers are feeling threatened.

There is no such thing as an angel president.

I am sure Trump has just as many poor traits as those before him. After all, human is human.

 

[JCauto]

11 minutes ago, stud858 said:

Not only decent Americans. Just say decent people who had their democratic vote, and even outside onlookers are feeling threatened.

There is no such thing as an angel president.

I am sure Trump has just as many poor traits as those before him. After all, human is human.

 

So because there are schitty humans out there, that means that ALL humans are schitty because, after all, human is human. Interesting. 

So you don't attach any value to the things people say, the things people do, their hobbies, the folks they hang out with, their public statements, their charitable works, their religious predilections, their interactions with others less powerful than they, etc.?

 

Let's compare Jimmy Carter (yes, yes, I know, the worst president ever yada yada yada) with Donald Trump. Carter was a Nuclear Engineer who worked in the USA's nuclear submarine fleet and managed the family peanut farm in Georgia. Donald inherited 413 million dollars and continued his father's business of slumlord then expanded it to include casinos and dodgy real estate dealings. Jimmy confessed to having "lusted in his heart" and was roundly condemned and mocked for it on the Right but has been happily married to the same woman for over 70 years. Donald confessed to grabbing women by their genitalia whenever he wants even if they don't and how he can get away with it because he's famous. He has proven this to be true. He's on his third marriage, having cheated on the previous two while they were pregnant. He's clearly cheated numerous times on the current wife, including with a famous porn star and with women who claim they were coerced or forced into sexual situations. Jimmy is an Elder in his church and attends regularly. Donald claims to be a Christian and hasn't been recorded in a church on Sundays since he's been president as far as I can recall whereas he's set a record for number of rounds of golf played by a sitting president that will never be touched. Jimmy is over 90 and works building houses in the hot sun as a volunteer for Habitat for Humanity. Donald has no discernible human empathy to those who are not White and Male or White, Female and Attractive and has never attempted to physically labour for anyone in his entire existence.

So no, I don't think your point is well thought out or valid. Just because you or your chosen leader is a horrible person does not mean everyone else is too. Our horror at this person is because we're very unlike him and can't see how others relate to his repulsive worldview.

[spidermike007]

Just yesterday, while at one of his silly rallies, Trump referred to the people who opposed Krazy Kav as being evil. So, now 60% of the American population is evil.

 

If this imbecile would just stop and reflect for one moment, before he said such inane dribble, he would be far less repugnant. He preaches to his base, who regard him as a spiritual master. But, the majority of the population in the US, and 90% of the population worldwide, knows better. 

[stud858]

1 hour ago, JCauto said:

So no, I don't think your point is well thought out or valid

That's, the problem. People think to much.

Australia has gone through 7 leaders in about 10 years(?). And it's not because each leader was evil   Hope US doesn't follow suit.

When individuals put their conclusions above democracy it all falls apart.  Well not really.  Completely remove government for years and society keeps functioning. 

Do we need a government?.  Maybe just a dictator.  Maybe Trump will deny a democratic vote next election. Now,  that would be evil. If that happens I'll jump on your bandwagon. Until then God bless the United states of America, and God bless Trump. 

[JCauto]

28 minutes ago, stud858 said:

That's, the problem. People think to much.

Australia has gone through 7 leaders in about 10 years(?). And it's not because each leader was evil   Hope US doesn't follow suit.

When individuals put their conclusions above democracy it all falls apart.  Well not really.  Completely remove government for years and society keeps functioning. 

Do we need a government?.  Maybe just a dictator.  Maybe Trump will deny a democratic vote next election. Now,  that would be evil. If that happens I'll jump on your bandwagon. Until then God bless the United states of America, and God bless Trump. 

The USA has only had one President who didn't complete their term because of being impeached, so it's not really much of a risk. Where exactly have you seen where government has been removed completely and society continues to function? I don't mean in movies. This is just another facile viewpoint that ignores history and facts. 

 

As to your points about democracy, you seem to misunderstand how it is supposed to function. Individuals do not just have the right to oppose the elected party and President, that's actually a critical part of the system. If your memory allows, recall the previous President and your likely views of him. They're of course supposed to do so within the limits of the law, but so should and must the elected representatives and President. 

Conservatives used to tell us that they had core Christian values that were immutable and based on strong traditional moral and ethical standards. And then of course they tell us that God is on their side as they follow a philandering, sexual assaulting, lying, cheating, scumbag who very likely conspired with the Russians (who have compromised him) to pervert American democracy. Ronnie Raygun is spinning in his grave.

[stud858]

3 hours ago, JCauto said:

Where exactly have you seen where government has been removed completely and society continues to function? I 

Thailand. While the coup was going.  

Id love to spend a day with all the politicians to see how little they do.  I mean action.  Not just talk talk talk.. Fight fight fight..

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎10‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 5:24 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

He could have just said that he suggests a detailed FBI investigation about him at that time. He could have urged his friends to fully support the FBI with details about the parties, all the kegs of beer, etc. And obviously the FBI should have enough time for such an investigation.

That could have cleared his name and his reputation.

Now why didn't he do that? ...

Probably because he knows that the opposition won't accept any investigation that clears him, and will keep up the inquisition against him regardless.

 

What has the parties, all the kegs of beer, etc. got to do with anything? if that counted, no rich kid would ever be allowed to get a high ranked job. Come to it, most western kids drink a lot when they can. It's what they do.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎10‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 5:24 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

He could have just said that he suggests a detailed FBI investigation about him at that time. He could have urged his friends to fully support the FBI with details about the parties, all the kegs of beer, etc. And obviously the FBI should have enough time for such an investigation.

That could have cleared his name and his reputation.

Now why didn't he do that? ...

Probably because he knows that the opposition won't accept any investigation that clears him, and will keep up the inquisition against him regardless.

 

What has the parties, all the kegs of beer, etc. got to do with anything? if that counted, no rich kid would ever be allowed to get a high ranked job. Come to it, most western kids drink a lot when they can. It's what they do.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What has the parties, all the kegs of beer, etc. got to do with anything? if that counted, no rich kid would ever be allowed to get a high ranked job. Come to it, most western kids drink a lot when they can. It's what they do. 

The parties and beer are not a problem. Lying under oath is a big problem - especially for a judge - and especially for a judge with a life time job in the highest court.

 

He could have said something like: Yes, when I was young I often got drunk with my friends. We partied and we had a good time. And maybe we kissed a girl or two which was not really exited about that.

That is probably nearer to the truth (just my idea). Nobody would have denied him the job for that. Probably people would have said it's good that he tells the truth even if it does not present him in the perfect light.

But this is not what he said. According to him he was never really drunk...

[underlordcthulhu]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The parties and beer are not a problem. Lying under oath is a big problem - especially for a judge - and especially for a judge with a life time job in the highest court.

 

He could have said something like: Yes, when I was young I often got drunk with my friends. We partied and we had a good time. And maybe we kissed a girl or two which was not really exited about that.

That is probably nearer to the truth (just my idea). Nobody would have denied him the job for that. Probably people would have said it's good that he tells the truth even if it does not present him in the perfect light.

But this is not what he said. According to him he was never really drunk...

I didn't drink my first beer until my mid twenties even though I used to go to parties(in teens) and hang out at bars(after 21) talking to random people and hanging out with friends.

[Srinivas]

Trump and Kavanaugh are in big trouble as dems turn to sorcerey.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/witches-ritual-hex-brett-kavanaugh_us_5bc0efaae4b0bd9ed559feff

 

fb page has 11k interested with 1k attending.

https://m.facebook.com/events/179836286297165/?active_tab=about#_=_

[metisdead]

A troll post and a reply has been removed. 

 

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Edited October 14, 2018 by metisdead