webfact Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Nonthaburi Love Hotel Removes Hitler Mural By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter NONTHABURI — A love hotel in greater metropolitan Bangkok removed an Adolf Hitler mural in one of its themed rooms Saturday after news of it went viral the past week and sparked outrage from Jewish groups worldwide. Love Villa Hotel in Nonthaburi city removed the mural in one of its rooms after word spread about the offensive decor via local press. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/arts/2018/10/07/nonthaburi-love-hotel-removes-hitler-mural/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-10-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted October 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2018 "...A love hotel in greater metropolitan Bangkok removed an Adolf Hitler mural in one of its themed rooms Saturday after news of it went viral the past week and sparked outrage from Jewish groups worldwide..." It sparked outrage from more than Jewish groups world-wide, it sparked outrage from every decent, thinking person who heard about it. It is waaaaay past time that Thailand, who welcomes millions of 'Westerners' a year, teach its citizens that the Nazi-related crap is not acceptable. I have always written these incidents off to simple ignorance, but more is needed now; just deal with it once and for all. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted October 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2018 It is not removing these vile references to a dark and tumultuous era that matter, rather removing from minds and hearts once and for all, educating Thai people of its abohrant and sinister meaning that is matter the most... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted October 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, ezzra said: It is not removing these vile references to a dark and tumultuous era that matter, rather removing from minds and hearts once and for all, educating Thai people of its abohrant and sinister meaning that is matter the most... Educating Thai people? Good luck with that 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted October 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: Love Hotel Removes Hitler Mural Difficult to understand why they think that Hitler and love have something in common. Just ignorance of history I expect. From what I have read the only thing that Hitler ever loved was his dog. While Eva apparently came a distant second to satisfy a need which his dog couldn't. I have met a few other men over the years who loved their dogs more than their wives; perhaps with good reason. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thedemon Posted October 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2018 I would imagine a Thai might compare the ignorance and disrespect in these cases to the way many foreigners use Buddha images as kitschy art objects. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Well that will ruin the proliferation of comments on some threads. What now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaphod reborn Posted October 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) The Thai education system is to blame. Students are indoctrinated with up to 4 hous a day with Thai and Buddhist culture classes while world history is completely ignored and never taught. Thai students learn that offenses to Buddha, like sexy selfies at temples, are a great offense, but it is cool to celebrate mass murderers like Hitler. Edited October 8, 2018 by zaphod reborn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted October 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, thedemon said: I would imagine a Thai might compare the ignorance and disrespect in these cases to the way many foreigners use Buddha images as kitschy art objects. That would be a huge false equivalence. Also, it seems many locals here use Buddha images as good luck charms. Edited October 8, 2018 by rkidlad 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, zaphod reborn said: The Thai education system is to blame. Students are indoctrinated with up to 4 hous a day with Thai and Buddhist culture classes while world history is completely ignored and never taught. Thai students learn that offenses to Buddha, like sexy selfies at temples, are a great offense, but it is cool to celebrate mass murderers like Hitler. Actually they are not taught to celebrate Hitler or any other mass murderer. That is a slur against the Thai's and you should apologise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The point of the story is not so much that the hotel thought that Nazi etc murals was a good marketing move, but rather that they removed them in response to pressure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darcula Posted October 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2018 Wonder what happens in the pictured communist-themed room. Does the government come in and screw you? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted October 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Darcula said: Wonder what happens in the pictured communist-themed room. Does the government come in and screw you? Indeed...5555 Yet, they kept the image of the old hammer and sickle????- whatever that's suppose to represent when making sweet passionate love!! Would've been much more trendier with a dazzling caricature of Che or even better, Hello Kitty. ???? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Cadbury said: Difficult to understand why they think that Hitler and love have something in common. Just ignorance of history I expect. From what I have read the only thing that Hitler ever loved was his dog. While Eva apparently came a distant second to satisfy a need which his dog couldn't. I have met a few other men over the years who loved their dogs more than their wives; perhaps with good reason. It's even more surprising that they show sympathy and hail a person who was (beside being a brutal, evil man) verifiable absolutely non corrupt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Cadbury said: Difficult to understand why they think that Hitler and love have something in common. They got confused between bunker and bunk up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMarKable Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...A love hotel in greater metropolitan Bangkok removed an Adolf Hitler mural in one of its themed rooms Saturday after news of it went viral the past week and sparked outrage from Jewish groups worldwide..." It sparked outrage from more than Jewish groups world-wide, it sparked outrage from every decent, thinking person who heard about it. It is waaaaay past time that Thailand, who welcomes millions of 'Westerners' a year, teach its citizens that the Nazi-related crap is not acceptable. I have always written these incidents off to simple ignorance, but more is needed now; just deal with it once and for all. You are right. I don't think they even talk or teach about Thailand's occupation by the Japanese. If they did perhaps they would know who Hitler was and which alliances he had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Good!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Now the room is almost suitable for cabinet meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: just deal with it once and for all. Deal with what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, ReMarKable said: You are right. I don't think they even talk or teach about Thailand's occupation by the Japanese. If they did perhaps they would know who Hitler was and which alliances he had. But then again, as an English kid at school in the 1950/60's, nothing was mentioned in history classes about WW1/2...Nothing, my long life taught me stuff.. The UK TV series "World at War" opened my eyes to a lot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Well.. authoritarian chic has certainly had a long run... Edited October 8, 2018 by Odysseus123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT73 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I wonder what the themed room meant with hitler and communism as in role playing? Maybe first I invade you then you invade me and totally destroy me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMarKable Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, transam said: But then again, as an English kid at school in the 1950/60's, nothing was mentioned in history classes about WW1/2...Nothing, my long life taught me stuff.. The UK TV series "World at War" opened my eyes to a lot.. As an American in public school it was drilled into my head. I don't know why you were not taught this. With the night bombings of England and later the implementation of universal health car as a consequence of the war there is much to be informed about. Edited October 8, 2018 by ReMarKable spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, ReMarKable said: As an American in public school it was drilled into my head. I don't know why you were not taught this. With the night bombings of England and later the implementation of universal health car as a consequence of the war there is much to being informed about. Well us kids knew all about the Crusades, Henry VIII etc, but nothing about the crap the UK had to deal with not long before I was born..Crazy stuff..???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Esso49 said: Actually they are not taught to celebrate Hitler or any other mass murderer. That is a slur against the Thai's and you should apologise. I didn't say they were taught to celebrate Hitler, so obviously you are the one who needs to apologize. I wrote that they are not taught world history at all, so it is natural that they think the symbols and logos of nazism are cool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lupatria said: It's even more surprising that they show sympathy and hail a person who was (beside being a brutal, evil man) verifiable absolutely non corrupt. If that is a definition of non-corrupt then Thailand not doing so bad at all. The hotel marketing ploy was with absolutely no reference as to whether Hitler was personally kind to dogs, whatever. Its about historical fame, evil or otherwise. So, one cannot also refer, for example, to Hitler's addiction to drugs as a reference point to Thailand. There's always a point when this type of thread goes silly unfortunately. Edited October 8, 2018 by SheungWan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, Lupatria said: That isn't the deflected point of this thread. However the guy selling dodgy stuff in Soi Buakhaow market is happy to sell both Nazi and Communist bedspreads and stuff. It is doubtful if he subjects himself to historical whatabout Conspiracy Theory nonsense, but I could ask him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, ezzra said: It is not removing these vile references to a dark and tumultuous era that matter, rather removing from minds and hearts once and for all, educating Thai people of its abohrant and sinister meaning that is matter the most... How can you remove those references "from hearts and minds" and still educate people about it? Those abhorant and sinister references surely need to be remembered, not removed from memory? Edited October 8, 2018 by Just Weird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SheungWan Posted October 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, BigT73 said: I wonder what the themed room meant with hitler and communism as in role playing? Maybe first I invade you then you invade me and totally destroy me. Thailand not so much into Cosplaying as Japan, but you could drop a note to Max Mosley. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, transam said: But then again, as an English kid at school in the 1950/60's, nothing was mentioned in history classes about WW1/2...Nothing, my long life taught me stuff.. The UK TV series "World at War" opened my eyes to a lot.. Depends on which syllabus was covered in each school for O Level History. Our school covered the London University syllabus which did go up to 1955 and dealt with both World Wars. Mind you we were aware of WW2 through the school playground trading of war comics and there were, of course, war movies on at the local cinemas. Edited October 8, 2018 by SheungWan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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