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Hi

my girlfriend has a auntie in Germany who is wishing us to visit there. Considering to go and visit some friends in Spain during same trip. 

But I have no idea about what kind of financial requirements there are for Thai citizens, thus posting here prior to doing anything for the application. We are not married, her income low so based on her own income I doubt she would get visa i.e some level of support

required from someone. Wondering if can get visa for her by simply writing a statement that I support her trip (I am EU citizen but not german), or transfer X amount of baht to her account prior to application - or how? 

 

Any practical advice appreciated

Posted

These are details of what's required, but from a commercial organisation. schengenvisainfo.com/germany-visa/

 

Also from the German Embassy, in Thai bangkok.diplo.de/th

 

She will have to provide details of her trip, including flights, accomodation and insurance and ensure that she has sufficient funds to last for her stay, I think Germany requires €45 a day, on top of her accomodation and flight costs. 

 

Most Consulates will require details of her income and her life in Thailand, padding an account isn't always acceptable.

 

A Schengen Visa will also allow her to visit Spain, she should include the full details of her trip with her application.

 

You might also like to read the pinned topic at the top of the forum.

 

 

 

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thanks - I was trying to search info specifcally to the financial requirement, but did not find anything clear cut. Seems somewhere (at least UK it seems), topping the account just shortly prior to visa application would not be acceptable, but wonder is this so in German situation as well. If drafting some kind of letter that I will cover everything (which I will do anyway) without topping up her account would do it, would be straightforward. 

 

Just dont want to waste time going back and forth to the embassy because of unclear requirements. And if situation is such that they would not issue her visa based on my support, just forget the whole thing.

 

Kind of annoying that the financial requirements are not clearly stated in the embassy site, why just not make it clear to people

Posted

Topping up an account is always risky, not only with a Schengen visa to any member state but also the UK and such. Such a thing can be a sign that the money is not actually owned by the applicant (but simply borrowed), or can even be a sign of human trafficking. If you do top up an account I would also include the withdrawl from your account, a passport copy from you and explaining this in an accompanying letter, explaining your relation to her and that the money in her account is 100% here to spent as she sees fit. 

Posted

...yes that's what I am reading too...actual experiences with German embassy in comparable situation anyone?

Posted

Forget about transferring money into your GF's account before the application.

Padding an account is a big no-no and will almost guarantee rejection, EU visa officials are not stupid.

 

Don't be a sucker and just stay out of this.

Your GF's auntie wants her to visit, let the auntie take care of everything and provide all the necessary documents.

 

This would have been a completely different situation if it was your wife, instead of GF.

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1 hour ago, varun said:

Forget about transferring money into your GF's account before the application.

Padding an account is a big no-no and will almost guarantee rejection, EU visa officials are not stupid.

 

Don't be a sucker and just stay out of this.

Your GF's auntie wants her to visit, let the auntie take care of everything and provide all the necessary documents.

 

This would have been a completely different situation if it was your wife, instead of GF.

Self and wife are thinking about Europe next year for a holiday, two or three weeks touring, and can't decide which country to apply to for her visa. Are they all as straightforward/difficult?  Is any particular one suggested as being the best one to apply through? 

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3 hours ago, overherebc said:

Self and wife are thinking about Europe next year for a holiday, two or three weeks touring, and can't decide which country to apply to for her visa. Are they all as straightforward/difficult?  Is any particular one suggested as being the best one to apply through? 

It is not really a question of difficult or easy.

 

The member state where you lodge the application is determined by either:

 

a) The member state where you will have the first point of entry into EU

b) The member state in which you will spend the most time


Most of the time, it is b),

but if your itinerary is spread out equally across multiple member states, 

then just applying at the first member state is fine.

Posted
3 hours ago, overherebc said:

Self and wife are thinking about Europe next year for a holiday, two or three weeks touring, and can't decide which country to apply to for her visa. Are they all as straightforward/difficult?  Is any particular one suggested as being the best one to apply through? 

You're probably aware that she should apply at the Consulate with jurisdiction for the Member State where she is going to spend the most time, if you are going to spend an equal amount of time in more than one country then she should apply at the Consulate with jurisdiction for the country where she enters the Schengen Area.

Some years ago my, then, girlfriend and I were also touring Europe, entering and leaving through Paris so we applied via the French Consulate. As our itinerary showed we were spending a few hours longer in Italy than France, they refused her application, after reminding them of the rules they refunded the fee as well as the supporting documents, though they did so without good grace.

My, now, wife has applied for her visas from the French, Italian, Dutch and Danish Consulates over the years, we have found that the Dutch are far easier to deal with, that's our experience of course. 
I can't remember your nationality, but if you're British, your wife would probably need to apply as a third country national next year,  without the benefits that Free Movement brings. 

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2 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

You're probably aware that she should apply at the Consulate with jurisdiction for the Member State where she is going to spend the most time, if you are going to spend an equal amount of time in more than one country then she should apply at the Consulate with jurisdiction for the country where she enters the Schengen Area.

Some years ago my, then, girlfriend and I were also touring Europe, entering and leaving through Paris so we applied via the French Consulate. As our itinerary showed we were spending a few hours longer in Italy than France, they refused her application, after reminding them of the rules they refunded the fee as well as the supporting documents, though they did so without good grace.

My, now, wife has applied for her visas from the French, Italian, Dutch and Danish Consulates over the years, we have found that the Dutch are far easier to deal with, that's our experience of course. 
I can't remember your nationality, but if you're British, your wife would probably need to apply as a third country national next year,  without the benefits that Free Movement brings. 

Thanks. British.

Thinking on flying to either France or Germany, makes Italy an easy drive, as you say will have to work out which country based on time there.

Posted
9 hours ago, varun said:

Forget about transferring money into your GF's account before the application.

Padding an account is a big no-no and will almost guarantee rejection, EU visa officials are not stupid.

 

Don't be a sucker and just stay out of this.

Your GF's auntie wants her to visit, let the auntie take care of everything and provide all the necessary documents.

 

This would have been a completely different situation if it was your wife, instead of GF.

If that's how it is then better just forget the whole thing

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From my experience it is quite easy to obtain a Schengen visa if you abide by the rules and have your paperwork in order.

 

There are two options for private visits either you apply for the visa yourself or you get the visa based on an invitation by an EU citizen

 

If you apply for the visa yourself you need to fill out the application form including the proper pictures the photo shops know just tell them for Schengen visa application, prove that you have enough funds to support yourself during the trip, reservation for a return airline ticket, (do not purchase a ticket until your visa is approved) travel health and accident insurance, accommodation can be a hotel or a family members or friends home with address, travel itinerary if you plan to travel around Europe while you are there.

 

Or on invitation which means an EU Citizen invites you and guarantees for you - in which case she / he will visit the local authorities in Their European home country and fill out an invitation form that is legally binding. This form is then forwarded / attached to the application to the embassy.

 

You still need the return flight reservation as well as travel insurance.

You find detailed instructions on every embassies website.

 

Most people have no problems at all obtaining a visa if they a genuine visitors.

 

Most people who are rejected do not have the proper paperwork or are lying in their application form.

 

I heard about people who say they are planning to travel around Europe and when asked about the itinerary / travel plans have no idea where they are going.

 

The only financial prove you need if you apply yourself - not on invitation - is that you can support yourself during the trip as well as travel health and accident insurance in case of sickness or accident.

 

The embassies will usually find out very quickly if you are a genuine visitor or if you try to cheat your way into their country.

 

Genuine visitors usually do not have any problems obtaining a visa

- the EU is not the UK or US where people who are honest in their application / genuine visitors but are rejected without any reason given - just because somebody might have had a bad hair day at the embassy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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