After near-collision at Heathrow, MAS says pilots followed SOP

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After near-collision at Heathrow, MAS says pilots followed SOP

 

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PETALING JAYA: Malaysia Airlines has clarified that its pilots followed standard operating procedures (SOP) after one of its aircrafts narrowly avoided a mid-air collision with a Virgin Atlantic plane as both were approaching London's Heathrow Airport on Oct 23.

Malaysia Airlines said flight MH4, from Kuala Lumpur to London Heathrow, was preparing to land when instructions was given by the air traffic controller (ATC) to commence a go-around as the runway was occupied by another aircraft.

"ATC gave an assigned heading towards the north of the airfield, which would place the aircraft at the base position for Runway 27R.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/10/26/after-near-collision-at-heathrow-mas-says-pilots-followed-sop/#3Wk6uuCo2rESJEgY.99 

 

-- The Star 2018-10-26

[Bluespunk]

“To reiterate: safety is of the utmost importance to Malaysia Airlines, and all our pilots go through a very strict and comprehensive training and are required to complete 4,500 hours before being accorded captain status, well above the industry norms," it said.”

 

Like the pilot of flight 370...

[stevenl]

53 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

“To reiterate: safety is of the utmost importance to Malaysia Airlines, and all our pilots go through a very strict and comprehensive training and are required to complete 4,500 hours before being accorded captain status, well above the industry norms," it said.”

 

Like the pilot of flight 370...

Cheap points scoring.

 

Looks like a no news item.

[wgdanson]

How can there be a mid-air collision if one of the planes is on the ground? At first the planes were 'approaching' LHR, then the Virgin was on the runway. Ah well, that's The Star for you.

[Jip99]

14 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

How can there be a mid-air collision if one of the planes is on the ground? At first the planes were 'approaching' LHR, then the Virgin was on the runway. Ah well, that's The Star for you.

 

 

You may need to read the report again..................... the Virgin plane was not on the ground...

 

 

 

The point about the Star is valid nonetheless.

[Basil B]

Seem funny there has not been anything reported in the British press or on Aviation Herald...

 

found this though..

Quote

The Virgin flight (VS 251) was forced to take immediate action by turning south after the Malaysian jet failed to respond to a change of heading from the air traffic controllers. The Virgin B787 then executed a 360-degree turn before rejoining the approach behind the Malaysian jet.

https://simpleflying.com/virgin-atlantic-and-malaysia-airlines-planes-were-seconds-from-colliding-over-west-london-yesterday/

  according to that the Malaysian crew were at fault.

 

Edit.

seems to me that MAS4 turned base far too early...

[wgdanson]

15 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

You may need to read the report again..................... the Virgin plane was not on the ground...

 

 

 

The point about the Star is valid nonetheless.

Malaysia Airlines said flight MH4, from Kuala Lumpur to London Heathrow, was preparing to land when instructions was given by the air traffic controller (ATC) to commence a go-around as the runway was occupied by another aircraft.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/10/26/after-near-collision-at-heathrow-mas-says-pilots-followed-sop/#xmSgYgiVAXMjQeLp.99

[Sir Swagman]

Heathrow controllers are amongst, if not the best in the world. Delayed responses from pilots are not unknown, but compromise the plans ATC have in mind. Unfortunately, from my experience and comments I have heard from very experienced ATC staff, there is one section of the world responsible for the vast majority of instructions being confused or not followed by pilots. MAS is based in that section of the world.

[Grouse]

Non story

 

https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/614683-mas-vs-vir-lhr.html

 

handled correctly.

 

probably the best ATC in the world

[connda]

If he's following ATC orders, than the tower got it wrong.
If he wasn't following ATC orders, than the pilot got it wrong.

[Krataiboy]

The report also quoted NATS, UK's air traffic control services, where its spokesperson confirmed that there was a loss of separation between two aircraft on approach to Heathrow Airport.

 

Sounds like they barely avoided generalised "loss of separation" between the the passengers' colons and their underwear.

[Chomper Higgot]

ATC asking a Malaysian Airlines flight to do a ‘go-around’ might be a bit of an ask!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/may/11/vikramdodd

 

Wild horses couldn’t drag me on a Malaysian Airways flight,

[Jonmarleesco]

Well, evidently there is SOP, and there is MA's SOP. And never the twain shall meet.

[SunsetT]

4 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Malaysia Airlines said flight MH4, from Kuala Lumpur to London Heathrow, was preparing to land when instructions was given by the air traffic controller (ATC) to commence a go-around as the runway was occupied by another aircraft.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/10/26/after-near-collision-at-heathrow-mas-says-pilots-followed-sop/#xmSgYgiVAXMjQeLp.99

Just give up Jip99! 555

[nauseus]

On 10/26/2018 at 3:12 PM, Bluespunk said:

“To reiterate: safety is of the utmost importance to Malaysia Airlines, and all our pilots go through a very strict and comprehensive training and are required to complete 4,500 hours before being accorded captain status, well above the industry norms," it said.”

 

Like the pilot of flight 370...

Unnecessary and below the belt comment. 

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

ATC asking a Malaysian Airlines flight to do a ‘go-around’ might be a bit of an ask!

But as quoted there was traffic on the runway, what should they do?

[wgdanson]

13 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

Just give up Jip99! 555

No, I apologise after reading the story in https://simpleflying.com/virgin-atlantic-and-malaysia-airlines-planes-were-seconds-from-colliding-over-west-london-yesterday

 

The Virgin was NOT on the runway.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Unnecessary and below the belt comment. 

Considering the bombastic statement from mas, I disagree

[Jip99]

7 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Malaysia Airlines said flight MH4, from Kuala Lumpur to London Heathrow, was preparing to land when instructions was given by the air traffic controller (ATC) to commence a go-around as the runway was occupied by another aircraft.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/10/26/after-near-collision-at-heathrow-mas-says-pilots-followed-sop/#xmSgYgiVAXMjQeLp.99

 

Comprehension is obviously an issue for you.

 

The MH4 plane was diverted because of an aircraft on the ground. It almost collided with an incoming Virgin flight..... that was also in the article.

 

Try again.

[wgdanson]

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Comprehension is obviously an issue for you.

 

The MH4 plane was diverted because of an aircraft on the ground. It almost collided with an incoming Virgin flight..... that was also in the article.

 

Try again.

OK mr Jipp, sorry I got it wrong.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Considering the bombastic statement from mas, I disagree

Your unnecessary comment immediately pointed to an actual tragedy, the cause of which you do not know. Any airline statements do not give you an excuse to do this.  

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Your unnecessary comment immediately pointed to an actual tragedy, the cause of which you do not know. Any airline statements do not give you an excuse to do this.  

As I said: I disagree