snoop1130 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Build it and they will come: Thai developers pour billions into retail By Chayut Setboonsarng FILE PHOTO: Thailand's first flagship Apple store is seen at Iconsiam shopping mall in Bangkok, Thailand November 7, 2018. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's new ultra-luxurious Iconsiam shopping complex opens its doors on Saturday, shrugging off a decline in tourist arrivals and political uncertainty ahead of next year's elections. "I wanted to build something that would tell the million stories of 'Thainess'," says Chadatip Chutrakul, chief executive of Siam Piwat, the firm behind Iconsiam, a half-million-square meter (sqm) complex sits on the banks of Bangkok's Chao Praya River. The retail sector is a rare bright spot in Thailand where the economy lags regional peers, even while growing at 4.6 percent. Developers have $4 billion in retail investments in the pipeline, outstripping new projects in Jakarta, Singapore or Kuala Lumpur. Retail sales growth reached a five-year high in August this year, up 17 percent from a year ago, much of it in malls. This growth may be the dominant factor in Chadatip's rock-solid confidence. Bangkok is expected to add more retail floor space than any city in Southeast Asia this year. Siam Piwat’s malls at the centre of Bangkok's shopping district were closed off at the height of civil unrest that ultimately led to Thailand's 2014 military coup. "There were mobs in front of our shopping centres...we closed for three months - I survived," she said in an interview with Reuters. "We announced [Iconsiam] three weeks after the coup." New retail projects are being planned even as Thailand prepares for elections that senior government officials have said would likely be on Feb. 24. The elections will pit supporters of the military and royalist establishment against populist political forces led by the Puea Thai Party that was ousted by the military in a 2014 coup. Thailand's political turmoil discouraged tourism growth, which also slowed after a boat accident killed dozens of Chinese tourists in July, but these concerns have not deterred developers. https://tmsnrt.rs/2PgR9wd Siam Piwat's Chadatip says she believes there are good opportunities in Thailand and tourism will recover. MORE CLICKS WITH BRICKS Even e-commerce in Thailand is turning to malls. JD.com-backed <JD.O> fashion retailer Pomelo saw an untapped customer segment after experimenting with pop-up stores, said CEO David Jou. "We found that some customers didn't feel comfortable making their first purchase online, but liked our products." The Bangkok-based startup, which has its fifth store in Iconsiam, where e-commerce is growing, says physical stores familiarise customers with products before they place digital orders. Shops create brand recognition and double as a pick-up point for online orders, simplifying logistics, he said. SHOPPING BUT NOT SPENDING But with mammoth retail developments going up and Thai household debt at 77.6 percent of GDP, some are questioning the sustainability of recreational shopping. "People like going to malls...but are they purchasing goods?" asks Adithep Vanabriksha, Chief Investment Officer at Aberdeen Asset Management (Thailand). Bangkok currently has 7.5 million sqm of retail space with another million in planned, nearly double what similar cities have lined up. This breakneck expansion risks creating a supply glut such as seen in Kuala Lumpur and when foot traffic through malls doesn't lead to sales, Thai retailers and developers are already working together to boost spending. Pomelo is looking into partnerships with stores to tap into customer loyalty programs. There must be data-sharing on footfall and spending between landlords and tenants, which will require big investments in data analytics, says James Pitchon, Executive Director of real estate consulting firm CBRE in Bangkok, noting that "retail's not dead, but it's very complicated". CHANGING UP THE MIX Another retail approach is to harness the convenience of the mixed-use project. One Bangkok, a venture of Thai billionaire Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi’s Fraser Property <FRPL.SI> and TCC Asset’s $3.5 billion, will devote half of its 1.83 million sqm development to offices, a quarter for retail, and the remainder for hotels and attractions. "We already have a captive population right there," Su Lin Soon, CEO (Development) of One Bangkok told Reuters in an interview. Infrastructure investments and a government policy that draws in foreign investors will also benefit the project, which is expected to complete its first phase in 2022, Soon adds. LA Staples-owner AEG and the Mall Group also announced $300 million in ventures including a 16,000 seat entertainment and retail complex. The challenge to Thailand's retail success is keeping shopping centre visits engaging and fresh, says CBRE's Pitchon."You need a reason to go...and it has to be a unique experience. Is it instagram-able?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mok199 Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 Wish they had this enthusiasm about their beaches....but brick and mortar is easy , ending thailands plastics and foam addiction is impossible... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post berybert Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 Give it a couple of years and all the people who go to the Em shopping malls will soon have a 3rd one to visit. 3 malls within the space of a bird cage, the powers that be have the I.Q. of a sloth. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 'growing at 4.6 percent' What rate was the household credit growing at again? Bubblydubbly. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 So I assume it will be quiet in T21 Pattaya this weekend 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thian Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, mok199 said: Wish they had this enthusiasm about their beaches....but brick and mortar is easy , ending thailands plastics and foam addiction is impossible... I wished they had used bricks and mortar for this building, it's the ugliest building i have seen for ages, i even thought this picture was of the first shoppingmall thailand ever had. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 All about mindless consumption and promotion thereof. Such a lovely forced upon trait. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 I haven't seen the project in person. But that's a pretty ugly looking exterior shown in the photo accompanying the OP news report. It kinda looks like the design architect was drunk when they did the job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 A mall that tells a million stories of Thainess. No need for that as we have it right here at TV.com. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greeneking Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 Another vanity project? No one can force any one to go to these places......and many of them are really not very busy. So how will the money be made? Is it the franchising, luxury shops paying the rents because they think they must be seen? It helps that the elites support each other to have government pay for infrastructure. transport links and nearby attractions (the coming viewing tower.) The prices will probably not be so attractive to make international tourists come here and the Bangkok hi-sos will find other places easier to get to once they have had their initial interest sated. Many places internationally are facing up to problems with internet shopping as this temple to expensive consumption tries to lever open their customers handbags. I am interested....how will the profits be made? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster59 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Iconsiam: Thailand's largest shopping mall opens in Bangkok By Kupluthai Pungkanon The Nation Weekend The interior has 16-metre gilded pillars in exquisite and graceful Thai patterns designed by celebrated artist Preecha Thaothong, illustrating the story of Suvarnabhumi, the Golden Land./Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich At Iconsiam, magnificent art and architecture evoking the Golden Land of legend temper luxury consumerism BANGKOK, only a small trading post in the 15th century when Ayutthaya ruled the known world, became the capital of Siam 236 years ago, superseding Thon Buri on the opposite bank of the Chao Phraya River. It’s certainly undergone much radical change since then, mainly in the last 50 years, while Thon Buri – the capital for just 14 years – has remained its quiet neighbour. Now, though, Iconsiam – the most expensive mixed-use development in Thai history at a price tag of Bt54 billion – is about to change the face of Thon Buri and the lifestyles of its residents forever. Her Royal Highness Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn officially opened the newest landmark on Charoen Nakhon Road yesterday in what was billed as a “Mega Phenomenon”. The event at dusk was by invitation only, but everyone can join in the rest of the opening festivities today and tomorrow. Drone lights add to the illumination for Iconsiam’s starstudded gala opening in Thon Buri yesterday, some 1,500 drones soaring above the Chao Phraya River./Nation: Ratchanon Intharagsa An impressive line-up of foreign entertainers was on hand for the official opening, among them South Korean superstars Choi Si-won and Kim Dong-jun, Taiwanese boy band F4 and American singer Alicia Keys. Also spotted on the red carpet were Dan Stevens, Kenny G and Naomi Watts. The grand event, which is said to have cost Bt1 billion, shone a spotlight on Thailand’s rich heritage, showcasing both traditional and contemporary art and cultural performances in parallel with shows from overseas. “Iconsiam was created to glorify the proud stories covering every dimension of Thainess by presenting them in exciting ways, blending them with the ultimate gracefulness of the unique Thai identity and putting them together in one venue,” said Chadatip Chutrakul, one of the project’s directors. “The development brings together the best Thailand has to offer and projects Thainess onto the world stage.” The design spaces of the retail complexes /Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich Iconsiam, a joint venture of Siam Piwat, Magnolia Quality Development Corp and Charoen Pokphan Group, has seen experts in various disciplines from many countries collaborating with local communities to build a new symbol representing the vision of an era that will make all Thais proud. In term of architecture, the two modern retail complexes, Iconsiam and Iconluxe, are closely associated with cultural values and beliefs tied to the Chao Phraya River, including inspirations from the krathong and baisri, the way a krathong is folded, translating traditional Thai design signatures into modern interpretations. The Iconluxe complex resembles three glass krathong with the facade stretching 300 metres along the river. A special glass is used to create vertical pleats all over the complex and is inspired by a traditional Thai dress with a pleated wrap shawl. The ceiling is adorned with the light sculpture “Flow”, created by British outfit Haberdashery and Preecha Thaothong. /Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich World-class brands in all categories, including fashion, jewellery and electronics, have been quick to show their confidence in the new location. The first Apple Store in Thailand is one of the highlights and is represented by a specially designed replica of the Thai alphabet symbol “aor”, which links the first letters of “Apple” and of “Iconsiam” in Thai. Super brands such as Gucci, Tiffany & Co, Louis Vuitton, Dior, Bvlgari, and Bottega Veneta are all here, and Hermes takes luxury one step further by opening an elegant duplex store. The British brand Cos also has a duplex, while JD Sport, one of the top retailers in the UK, has chosen Iconsiam for its first flagship store in Thailand. Triplex stores house such big names in street fashion such as H&M and Urban Revivo. The first Apple Store in Thailand boasts a specially designed replica of the Thai alphabet symbol “aor”, which links the first letters of “Apple” and “Iconsiam”. /Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich Patek Philippe is also answering “Present!”, operating its biggest store in Southeast Asia with a floor space of 223 square metres. Narun Thammavaranukup, managing director of PMT the Hour Glass, importer of Patek Philippe, says the location of Iconsiam is the main attraction. “The positioning is unique. We have a great profile of loyal customers on this side of the river too. It’s surrounded by five-star hotels, and is certain to become a major destination in Bangkok. Thais are among the most sophisticated watch collectors.” Opras Lavichant, chief executive of Pacifica Group, distributor of high-end fashion brands Coach, Max Mara, Furla, Etro, Camper, Kenneth Cole and Keds, also has great expectations and sees a very positive future for Iconsiam. “This place is not just a shopping mall but a lifestyle venue. The tenant list is complete and the decor is truly beautiful. All the brands in our group will be represented here. Coach and Nyx will have their own stores with the full range of product lines,” he says. Iconsiam is also home to the first branch of Siam Takashimaya, which is taking up 35,000sqm of floor space. Japan’s most iconic department store, it was founded in 1831 in Kyoto and is today led by Shigeru Kimoto. The first branch of Siam Takashimaya takes up 35,000sqm, combining the best of Thai and Japanese retailing./Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich Siam Takashimaya combines the best of Thai and Japanese retailing, with Kimoto writing in the official press release that products from more than 530 brands, 80 of them newcomers to Thailand, will be on sale. “The staff is ready to give you a warm Japanese welcome – omotenashi. We believe that every customer will be impressed with our hospitality,” he says. Anujtha Jaovisidha, director of Jao Prosperity, which is operating four food outlets at Siam Takashimaya – Kimukatsu Toku restaurant, Ichii Jidoriya, Azabu Zabo and Qpot Caf้ – is very impressed by the development. “At first I was concerned about commuting to the shopping complex, but the shuttle boat is very convenient. I think it will be a great tourist destination. “Siam Takashimaya is very Japanese with an exquisite and detailed-oriented design. Thais are already familiar with Japanese products. I’m sure they’ll like shopping here, and the prices are reasonable too, on a par with Japan,” she says. The interior has 16-metre gilded pillars in exquisite and graceful Thai patterns designed by celebrated artist Preecha Thaothong, illustrating the story of Suvarnabhumi, the Golden Land./Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich And there’s plenty more to do than just shop, including admiring the masterpieces created by more than 100 artists and architects, both local and foreign. Associate Professor Preecha Thaothong has translated his vast knowledge of the aesthetics, philosophy and ethics of Suvarnabhumi – the “golden land”, an ancient name of this region – into the interior design, with exquisite and graceful patterns gilded on four majestic 16-metre pillars. The Thai patterns are chronologically ordered by era, from Ban Chiang, Champasak, Funan, Nanchao, Dvaravati and Chiang Saen to Sukhothai, Ayutthaya and Rattanakosin. The “Pillars of Auspiciousness” by Professor Thavorn Koudomvit symbolise prosperity./Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich In this he has been ably assisted by artist Thavorn Ko-udomvit, who has turned natural elements considered auspicious in traditional Thai culture into a design printed with real leaves on the pillars. These auspicious leaf prints are in gold, symbolising the value and brilliance of each civilisation. Lasvit, a leading chandelier designer and manufacturer from the Czech Republic, has come up with a one-of-the-kind crystal chandelier called “Joy”, while light-sculpture expert Haberdashery from England is behind the “Flow” sculpture. Sook Siam brings together the best of local must-buy items and foods from all 77 provinces./Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich And showcasing the rich heritage of Thai history and culture, Sooksiam brings together the best of Thai brands in all categories, from fashion to handicrafts to must-buy items from all 77 provinces. Artists from every region have come together to preserve precious local wisdom. Visitors can explore the whole of Thailand and fully appreciate the stories and inspirations behind these art pieces simply by scanning the QR Code provided next to them. Outdoor river park /Nation:Tanachai Pramarnpanich Outside, meanwhile, the 10,000sqm River Park boasts the longest multimedia water feature in Southeast Asia, costing Bt400 million, and a huge stage adorned with a sculpture by National Artist Chalermchai Kositpipat. STILL MORE TO COME The River Museum Bangkok, set to open in July, will be Thailand’s first world-class museum complex bringing together the historical and cultural heritage of the country under one roof. Free shuttle buses run from BTS Taksin (Exit 2) and BTS Krung Thonburi (Exit 1) every 10 to 15 minutes from 8am to 11.30pm. Free shuttle boats are provided at four piers – Sathorn, CAT Telecom, Si Praya and Ratchawong – and run every 10 to 15 minutes from 9 to 11. The mass transit Gold line, which will connect with the Green, Red and Purple lines, is currently under construction, as are four more piers to support water travel via private yacht, boats and ferries. Find out more at www.Iconsiam.com. 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talahtnut Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 If I had 4 billion, it would be enough, I could have a good time on that. Why would you want 5 billion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted November 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2018 Most countries open museums, art galleries, monuments, etc to glorify themselves and their cultures. Thailand does shopping malls. Seems appropriate somehow... 11 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lungstib Posted November 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2018 "Build it and they will come". Something the owners of the Promenada in Chiang Mai are probably regretting right now. Almost all the ordinary workers up here in the far north on their 300b a day cant even afford to step into Lotus, so building enormous monuments to stupid spending would be a crazy idea. We already have 100 empty shop houses in the 25 kms between Tha Ton and Fang that refutes this crazy idea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 A post using ALL CAPS has been removed, please turn off your Caps Lock when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted November 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: People like going to malls...but are they purchasing goods?" No. I sometimes blunder into one of these places. Lots of empty designer goods stores with no customers for their overpriced products. Only the food section has customers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted November 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2018 I thought people only go to these shopping malls,to look around and get out of the heat.shopping not so much. regards Worgeordie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwarium Posted November 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2018 Ugly exterior? It’s obviously not finished. Will be fine once they attach the facade panels and cover all the unsightly framing! ???? After reading the glowing propaganda article, I’ll be rushing right down this afternoon to partake of the ‘rich heritage of Thai history and culture’, ‘precious local wisdom’, ‘omotenashi’, etc! A few selfies with the auspicious gold leaf columns will obviously improve my life and lifestyle for years to come! ps- Walking around in malls is not ‘shopping’. Maybe they should check people have 20,000 Baht at the entrances! ???? 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperRik Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 The Chinese will love it, they won’t spend any money in it, just walk around behind the compulsory flag???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 They could just try to sell goods at competitive prices. Have actual sales rather than marking the prices up so the prices appear cheaper. Crazy how things are more expensive in the developing world then they are in the developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyk Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I will have to say, the malls here put the malls in my country to shame. Malls in my home town are dead, a slow agonizing death. Internet sales have taken over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowerboy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 The Malls have to PAY the high end brands (Gucci, Luis Vuitton etc) to be there....in many cases they have to beg and grovel the major brands to let the shopping center pay them to have a shop there (or at the very least offer them free rent for a number of years)....this is a fact I learned during the building and opening of Central Embassy in Bangkok. Here is a prediction; at some point in the future these shopping malls will charge (or at least try to) charge an entrance fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 all the times i have visited shopping malls in Bangkok and Pattaya the only places i have seen with customers are the coffee shops,where thais sit for hours over one coffee playing on their phones, never once have a seen a busy retail shop, one big reason i tjhink must be the high rental costs of running one of these units, and the pass it on mentality of thais, Thais love the old night markets, low rents cheap clothes, to buy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyk Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, bowerboy said: The Malls have to PAY the high end brands (Gucci, Luis Vuitton etc) to be there....in many cases they have to beg and grovel the major brands to let the shopping center pay them to have a shop there (or at the very least offer them free rent for a number of years)....this is a fact I learned during the building and opening of Central Embassy in Bangkok. Here is a prediction; at some point in the future these shopping malls will charge (or at least try to) charge an entrance fee. I did not know that, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, KeeperRik said: The Chinese will love it, they won’t spend any money in it, just walk around behind the compulsory flag???? And look for somewhere to sleep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien365 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) No doubt they'll be hoping for all of the Mandarin Oriental and Shangri-la guests to spend all of their money there. I believe it will be just another mall with an overcrowded food court and very little else going on. There's no point to these malls if luxury items are more expensive than in your home country. Edited November 10, 2018 by alien365 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: when Ayutthaya ruled the known world, love it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThorD72 Posted November 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2018 Anybody else here deeply care about Dolce Gabbana,.and Louis Vuitton,.. just cant get enough buying that stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 re, get out of the sun, we had a student years ago as a guide in CUBA ( money helps with their education) sweltering hot day, we dived into a shoe/trainer shop, when we questioned it, he smiled, AAhh !! air con , ha ha, we had a cofffee outside, he vanished , came back with one ciggy he had bought, so i bought him a packet, friend for life lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichiro Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 One wonders if the financing is in house or banks. If banks, I smell a crisis looming...how the banks can continue to fund these white elephants leads one to suspect shenanigans at the highest levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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