Shooting at Chicago hospital leaves four in critical condition

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Shooting at Chicago hospital leaves four in critical condition

 

Police are responding to reports of an active shooting situation near Mercy Hospital in Chicago's South Side with multiple people wounded. Witnesses inside the hospital said they were told to shelter in place. 

 

CHICAGO (Reuters) - At least four people, including a police officer, were shot near a Chicago hospital and in critical condition on Monday afternoon and at least one "possible offender" has been shot, police and fire officials said.

 

It was not clear whether anyone was killed in the incident near Mercy Hospital on Chicago's South Side.

 

Three of the four people in critical condition were taken to other hospitals, Larry Langford, Chicago Fire Department spokesman, said in a phone interview.

 

Police were searching the hospital, said Anthony Guglielmi, a Chicago Police Department spokesman. The hospital said on Twitter that the shooting was over and patients were safe.

 

Eyewitnesses told reporters that the shooting began in the parking lot before moving into a clinic area inside the hospital.

 

Sue Jimenez, the manager of Kozy's Cyclery bike shop near the hospital, said she heard multiple gunshots separated by pauses. At one point, she heard five shots in quick succession, she said, but the shooting stopped after police arrived.

 

"I'm telling everybody, 'Let's stay in,'" the shop, Jimenez said in a telephone interview.

 

A large number of police cars and fire engines with flashing lights could be seen outside the hospital.

 

(Reporting by Suzannah Gonzales in Chicago; Additional reporting by Jonathan Allen in New York and Alex Dobuzinskis in Los Angeles; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-11-20

[spidermike007]

The NRA is the largest terrorist organization in the US. They make it easier for maniacs to carry out their terror and continue to oppose even the simplest background checks. Down with the NRA, the Murder Corp. And who supports them and the murdering of innocent Americans? Trump and the entire GOP.

 

The blue wave will continue while nonsensical policy rules the GOP. 

Edited November 20, 2018 by spidermike007

[JAG]

And the slaughter continues...

 

"Cold dead hands" is starting to look like not so bad an option...

[Lingba]

I would imagine that if all the patients, nurses and doctors were armed, this wouldn't have happened????

[TopDeadSenter]

RIP to the victims. This is an odd case. I thought hospitals were gun free zones? 

[JAG]

47 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

RIP to the victims. This is an odd case. I thought hospitals were gun free zones? 

I doubt whether someone sufficiently bonkers to even contemplate wandering around a hospital shooting at people would be over concerned as to whether it was a gun free zone!

 

There again the system in the US seems sufficiently bonkers to let them have guns in the first place...

[Just1Voice]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

The NRA is the largest terrorist organization in the US. They make it easier for maniacs to carry out their terror and continue to oppose even the simplest background checks. Down with the NRA, the Murder Corp. And who supports them and the murdering of innocent Americans? Trump and the entire GOP.

 

The blue wave will continue while nonsensical policy rules the GOP. 

Have you considered professional help for your delusional bouts?  The NRA is one of the STRONGEST proponents for THROUGH background checks on people who wish to buy a gun.  That's #1.  As for #2, this happened in CHICAGO, which is a "gun free zone" city, but still has one of the highest rates of gun related crimes in the country.   

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UPDATE
 

Four killed, including gunman and police officer, in shooting at Chicago hospital

By Suzannah Gonzales

 

 

CHICAGO (Reuters) - A gunman at a Chicago hospital killed a police officer and two others before dying in the shooting, which sent doctors and patients streaming out of the facility, officials said.

 

The gunman opened fire in the parking lot outside the hospital before bursting into a lobby at the facility and opening fire there as well, witnesses told local television stations.

 

A police officer, Samuel Jimenez, died in the attack, a police spokesman said on Twitter. The gunman also died, the Chicago Fire Department said on Twitter.

 

Officials had said two other people were also struck by gunfire, and an investigator at the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office later said those two people also died.

 

Police cars and ambulances swarmed the hospital after the shooting as officers searched the medical facility.

 

Police have not commented on a possible motive.

 

Sue Jimenez, the manager of Kozy's Cyclery bike shop near the hospital, said she heard multiple gunshots separated by pauses. At one point, she heard five shots in quick succession, she said, but the shooting stopped after police arrived.

 

(Reporting by Suzannah Gonzales in Chicago; Additional reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis in Los Angeles and Jonathan Allen in New York; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-11-20

[spidermike007]

7 minutes ago, Just1Voice said:

Have you considered professional help for your delusional bouts?  The NRA is one of the STRONGEST proponents for THROUGH background checks on people who wish to buy a gun.  That's #1.  As for #2, this happened in CHICAGO, which is a "gun free zone" city, but still has one of the highest rates of gun related crimes in the country.   

 

Far from strengthening the background check system, the Trump administration has taken several actions that could be described as weakening it.

Trump’s proposed budget for fiscal 2019 would cut $12 million for a program that awards grants to states to improve their NICS reporting, a reduction from $73 million to $61 million.

 

In LaPierre’s case, the statistics are outdated and portray the NICS database as spottier than it really is. LaPierre also claims the NRA helped institute the NICS, even though the gun group initially opposed the Brady Act, agreed to the NICS provision as a compromise and then tried to strike down the entire law in the courts.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/23/fact-checking-trump-nra-claims-on-gun-background-checks/

[mtls2005]

A shooting in Denver as well..

 

1 dead, 3 injured in Denver shooting

 

DENVER – One person is dead and three others have sustained non-life threatening injuries in a shooting Monday afternoon in downtown Denver.

Denver Police spokesman Doug Schepman told reporters that no arrests have been made and police don’t know if there was more than one shooter. Authorities did not immediately release any information on potential suspects.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/11/19/multiple-people-shot-denver-hospital/2062184002/

 

[roo860]

Have you considered professional help for your delusional bouts?  The NRA is one of the STRONGEST proponents for THROUGH background checks on people who wish to buy a gun.  That's #1.  As for #2, this happened in CHICAGO, which is a "gun free zone" city, but still has one of the highest rates of gun related crimes in the country.   

Ah, that's ok then, carry on shooting.

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[sungod]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The NRA is the largest terrorist organization in the US. They make it easier for maniacs to carry out their terror and continue to oppose even the simplest background checks. Down with the NRA, the Murder Corp. And who supports them and the murdering of innocent Americans? Trump and the entire GOP.

 

The blue wave will continue while nonsensical policy rules the GOP. 

Politics aside now, Obama achieved nothing here either.

[Becker]

2 hours ago, sungod said:

Politics aside now, Obama achieved nothing here either.

Of course he didn't but it wasn't for a lack of trying. Every time he brought it up the rednecks ran for the hills, the NRA was literally up in arms and the GOP led Congress wouldn't even listen.

The whole thing is pitiful sad and tragic considering most Americans favor stricter gun laws. The whole country is being held ransom by special interests and people are dying in droves.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243797/six-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws.aspx

[Berkshire]

5 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

Have you considered professional help for your delusional bouts?  The NRA is one of the STRONGEST proponents for THROUGH background checks on people who wish to buy a gun.  That's #1. 

NRA supporting background checks?  You're sure about that?

 

[Last year, the National Rifle Association spent more money fighting a push for a universal background check for gun purchases in Nevada than it did on any Senate or House race.]

 

https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/nra-spending-nevada-universal-background-checks-las-vegas/

 

 

[Jonnapat]

So here we  are again in this never ending cycle of shootings

There will never be change because the forces are too powerful.

[joecoolfrog]

In a just world , every victim of gun violence in the USA would be a fanatical NRA supporter.

[Basil B]

18 hours ago, Lingba said:

I would imagine that if all the patients, nurses and doctors were armed, this wouldn't have happened????

Was that one of Donald's tweets???

[simple1]

Claimed the shooter was arguing with his emergency room doctor girlfriend in the carpark, shot her and when on the ground shot her three more times. Then ran into hospital shooting at police, killed one and a pharmacist who was in the line of fire.

 

https://abc7chicago.com/mercy-hospital-shooter-shot-himself-but-killed-by-police-bullet/4727938/

 

 

[TopDeadSenter]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Claimed the shooter was arguing with his emergency room doctor girlfriend in the carpark, shot her and when on the ground shot her three more times. Then ran into hospital shooting at police, killed one and a pharmacist who was in the line of fire.

 

https://abc7chicago.com/mercy-hospital-shooter-shot-himself-but-killed-by-police-bullet/4727938/

 

 

In case anybody was wondering why this disappeared from intl news feeds so quickly. The shooter was called Juan Lopez, a Hispanic. Incredible how the coverage differs from when a white male does the shooting. Can anybody explain the difference? I would have thought all mass shootings were very much in the public interest and worthy of detailed updates and coverage, not only those done by white males.

 

 In this case, it would appear the shooter is merely a murderer with a bad temper, rather than an idealist/religious terrorist. I suppose in that respect it makes the story slightly less newsworthy.

[mtls2005]

23 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

The shooter was called Juan Lopez, a Hispanic.

 

Pretty sure he was an American?

 

24 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I would have thought all mass shootings were very much in the public interest and worthy of detailed updates and coverage, not only those done by white males.

 

Not sure where you're going with this line? Into the depths of xenophobia and racism perhaps?

 

There were four (4) separate shootings on Monday, so maybe hard for the "coverage" to keep up? Sure the NRA Channel News, Breitbart or Infowars should soothe your needs?

 

Attacks in a Chicago hospital, on a Denver street, at a suburban St. Louis business and in a Philadelphia basement left 10 people dead -- including one of the gunmen -- and at least four people wounded.

 

 

[Berkshire]

53 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

In case anybody was wondering why this disappeared from intl news feeds so quickly. The shooter was called Juan Lopez, a Hispanic. Incredible how the coverage differs from when a white male does the shooting. Can anybody explain the difference? I would have thought all mass shootings were very much in the public interest and worthy of detailed updates and coverage, not only those done by white males.

 

 In this case, it would appear the shooter is merely a murderer with a bad temper, rather than an idealist/religious terrorist. I suppose in that respect it makes the story slightly less newsworthy.

Wow, how in God's name do you come up with this?  There are so many shootings in America anymore that one will not get wall-to-wall coverage unless the number of murdered is in the double digits or there's some other unusual storyline.  As for ethnicity, if the shooter had been an illegal or Muslim, Trump would be all over it and it might get a tad more coverage.  But I don't see how there's any sort of double standard in this case...except maybe in your imagination.

[jvs]

On 11/20/2018 at 9:04 AM, Just1Voice said:

Have you considered professional help for your delusional bouts?  The NRA is one of the STRONGEST proponents for THROUGH background checks on people who wish to buy a gun.  That's #1.  As for #2, this happened in CHICAGO, which is a "gun free zone" city, but still has one of the highest rates of gun related crimes in the country.   

So you are saying the NRA is doing a really good job?Not much of an argument,one that is getting repeated often but yo will have to come up with something better.

[Stargeezr]

Wow! 4 shootings in one day In the USA, Chicago, Denver, St. Louis, and Philadelphia, all cold Wintery states. Could this be weather related? NRA, that is the Dark side. Wild West country is what the USA is, after all the 2nd Amendment was written when the white settlers were still having issues with the natives, and thieving robbers. This is now the 21st century and not the 19th.

Geezer

[jvs]

On 11/20/2018 at 7:30 AM, JAG said:

And the slaughter continues...

 

"Cold dead hands" is starting to look like not so bad an option...

Yes if ever there is going to be a government with a different mindset,someday soon i hope.

If that happens it will not be" cold dead hands"it will be some soldier kicking a gun away from a charred body after a drone does a double tap. 

[mtls2005]

7 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Could this be weather related?

 

Yes.

 

We're nearly averaging one mass shooting per day, so if there's weather then there's a mass shooting.

 

Pretty soon there will be Doppler Radar displaying shootings on the nightly news.

 

 

[JimmyJ]

On 11/19/2018 at 4:32 PM, Lingba said:

I would imagine that if all the patients, nurses and doctors were armed, this wouldn't have happened????

 

To say nothing of any children inside...

 

If nothing else, watch the 1st 20 seconds of this one (Sasha Baron Cohen and a "real person"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvMTBg8jx-c

 

These are not actors. These are USA elected officials:

Who Is America - Guns for Toddlers scene.

 

 

Edited November 21, 2018 by JimmyJ

[joecoolfrog]

13 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

In case anybody was wondering why this disappeared from intl news feeds so quickly. The shooter was called Juan Lopez, a Hispanic. Incredible how the coverage differs from when a white male does the shooting. Can anybody explain the difference? I would have thought all mass shootings were very much in the public interest and worthy of detailed updates and coverage, not only those done by white males.

 

 In this case, it would appear the shooter is merely a murderer with a bad temper, rather than an idealist/religious terrorist. I suppose in that respect it makes the story slightly less newsworthy.

The tragic reason that this event was quickly forgotten is that it was just one of three similar shootings on the same day ( the other 2 were similarly quickly dismissed ).

The fact is that the US public are so immune now to the havoc caused by firearms that its not now particularly newsworthy.