All In One Computer.

[NoshowJones]

I am now thinking about a new All In One Computer. Can you get them on SSD? Have read a report that they are slower, not as reliable, and don't last as long as Desktops. Any views on this?

 

What would be the best one to buy, budget from about 16.000 to 26.000 Baht. Mainly for watching downloaded TV shows and movies, so would require good sound and picture quality. Thanks.

[marcusarelus]

Have you considered a giant box computer?  They are difficult to steal.  I have one hooked into my 65 inch TV. 

[lopburi3]

As I stated in other thread have been using my Lenovo B310 for seven years, which is far longer than any desktop has lasted.  It is not fast to boot as just using a normal HD - but as normally only do one time a day it is not that much of a concern.  Grandaughter has the cheapest Lenovo C20-05 AMD 19.5" one piece for last 3 1/2 years and only had one issue (believe update of software) which local shop solved for a couple hundred baht.  She uses for watching all TV and video. 

 

We both use headphones for audio however so no experience with speakers (which would not be that good as have to be small).

[KittenKong]

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

I am now thinking about a new All In One Computer. Can you get them on SSD? Have read a report that they are slower, not as reliable, and don't last as long as Desktops. Any views on this?

The main problems with AIO devices is that they often use non-standard or unusual components or fittings. So if one part breaks it may be hard or expensive to find the correct replacement, which may leave you with an unusable doorstop. With a desktop PC you can much more easily swap and change and reuse parts, if one part goes wrong. And the AIO has the added inconvenience that the monitor is built into it and is basically an internal part rather than a bolt-on part as it is with a desktop.

 

Apart from that they are basically just normal PCs and may suffer exactly the same problems as any other PC, and the lower the build quality the more likely you are to have problems.

 

You should be able to fit an SSD to just about any recent AIO PC just as you can to just about any recent laptop or desktop.

 

But I wonder what actually attracts you to an AIO? Is it lack of space in your house? Neatness?

 

Perhaps a mini-PC and regular monitor would suit you?

[Stocky]

53 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

Perhaps a mini-PC and regular monitor would suit you?

+1 For all the reasons stated above this is a far better solution. Can recommend the Asus VivoMini range.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, KittenKong said:

The main problems with AIO devices is that they often use non-standard or unusual components or fittings. So if one part breaks it may be hard or expensive to find the correct replacement, which may leave you with an unusable doorstop. With a desktop PC you can much more easily swap and change and reuse parts, if one part goes wrong. And the AIO has the added inconvenience that the monitor is built into it and is basically an internal part rather than a bolt-on part as it is with a desktop.

 

Apart from that they are basically just normal PCs and may suffer exactly the same problems as any other PC, and the lower the build quality the more likely you are to have problems.

 

You should be able to fit an SSD to just about any recent AIO PC just as you can to just about any recent laptop or desktop.

 

But I wonder what actually attracts you to an AIO? Is it lack of space in your house? Neatness?

 

Perhaps a mini-PC and regular monitor would suit you?

Good advice, thanks, I was going for a 17ins laptop to replace my desktop. I live in a village about 60Ks from the nearest city, and the only computer shop closed down, and if my desktop need fixed for anything I would have to transport the tower on my motorbike to the city.

I want a decent sized monitor, I already have a 14ins screen on my 2-1 Lenovo laptop, which I use for traveling and on motorbike road trips. I think an All In One is just what I need.

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

Have you considered a giant box computer?  They are difficult to steal.  I have one hooked into my 65 inch TV. 

No, it would take up far too much space in the small room I had built on to my main house. 

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, Stocky said:

+1 For all the reasons stated above this is a far better solution. Can recommend the Asus VivoMini range.

What size of screen, I suspect it would be too small.

[KittenKong]

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

What size of screen, I suspect it would be too small.

Mini PCs use separate monitors. So you could connect one to any sort of HDMI screen, including a big flat-screen TV or any size PC monitor.

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

As I stated in other thread have been using my Lenovo B310 for seven years, which is far longer than any desktop has lasted.  It is not fast to boot as just using a normal HD - but as normally only do one time a day it is not that much of a concern.  Grandaughter has the cheapest Lenovo C20-05 AMD 19.5" one piece for last 3 1/2 years and only had one issue (believe update of software) which local shop solved for a couple hundred baht.  She uses for watching all TV and video. 

 

We both use headphones for audio however so no experience with speakers (which would not be that good as have to be small).

"Grandaughter has the cheapest Lenovo C20-05 AMD 19.5". That sounds very interesting, I already have a Lenovo 2-1 which I use for traveling, has great picture and sound quality. I will look for that one.

[wgdanson]

15 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

What size of screen, I suspect it would be too small.

As I advised when you posted this subject a week or so back, as Stocky says, a mini PC like an Intel NUC would be perfect, with HDMI into a BIG telly. You can put whatever SSD and RAM you want (can afford) into it. A wireless mouse/keyboard and some good speakers. You could even run it on Linux which costs NOWT. And as for a tower taking up too much space in your small room, the NUC would be one solution or MOVE ROOMS would be the other. Ssorry about the bog roll on the photo, it's not normally there!

Edited December 5, 2018 by wgdanson

[NoshowJones]

14 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

Mini PCs use separate monitors. So you could connect one to any sort of HDMI screen, including a big flat-screen TV or any size PC monitor.

Worth keeping that in mind. Thanks. Though I am still looking for opinions on the best AIOs.

[Stocky]

26 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

What size of screen, I suspect it would be too small.

Mine plugs into my 48" Samsung TV.

 

 

 

[KhunBENQ]

My previous desktop PC lasted almost 10 years with the original hard disk.

In 2017 it started to fail with graphics card, CPU, power supply ... repaired.

This year I gave up and bought a new one at JIB.

Edited December 5, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[NoshowJones]

49 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Mine plugs into my 48" Samsung TV.

 

 

 

That's really good, but I do not have  tv although there is one in the house which Mrs Possum watches. That size of screen will not fit into my place, I just rely on my computers for inhouse entertainment, apart from in the bedroom of course.

[wgdanson]

14 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

That's really good, but I do not have  tv although there is one in the house which Mrs Possum watches. That size of screen will not fit into my place, I just rely on my computers for inhouse entertainment, apart from in the bedroom of course.

Just how small is this room you have. Why not hold your smart phone 6 inches from your eyes, it's the same as a 50 inch at 4 foot away.

[Crossy]

A mini PC or NUC will bolt onto the VESA mounting point (the bolt holes used for wall mounting) on the back of most monitors giving you an all in one with a monitor that you can customise to suit your space and budget.

 

 

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

My previous desktop PC lasted almost 10 years with the original hard disk.

In 2017 it started to fail with graphics card, CPU, power supply ... repaired.

This year I gave up and bought a new one at JIB.

I bought my desktop from JIB about five years ago and it is still going strong, I bought it on the advice of posters on this forum. When I decide what AIO I want, I will give the desktop to the wife.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, KittenKong said:

The main problems with AIO devices is that they often use non-standard or unusual components or fittings. So if one part breaks it may be hard or expensive to find the correct replacement, which may leave you with an unusable doorstop. With a desktop PC you can much more easily swap and change and reuse parts, if one part goes wrong. And the AIO has the added inconvenience that the monitor is built into it and is basically an internal part rather than a bolt-on part as it is with a desktop.

 

Apart from that they are basically just normal PCs and may suffer exactly the same problems as any other PC, and the lower the build quality the more likely you are to have problems.

 

You should be able to fit an SSD to just about any recent AIO PC just as you can to just about any recent laptop or desktop.

 

But I wonder what actually attracts you to an AIO? Is it lack of space in your house? Neatness?

 

Perhaps a mini-PC and regular monitor would suit you?

I am going to Fortune Town not this Monday but next, If I buy one there, do you think I could get SSD fitted at the same time?

[KittenKong]

5 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I am going to Fortune Town not this Monday but next, If I buy one there, do you think I could get SSD fitted at the same time?

Any competent technician should be able to fit an SSD to pretty much any type of recent PC in just a few minutes. Not sure whether AIO devices come with Windows here. If it does you would need to clone the old disk first before fitting the new one, and that may take half an hour or so. If it doesnt then probably simplest to change the disk before installing Windows.

 

Keep the old disk for warranty return purposes.

 

An AOI would not be my choice for the reasons I gave.

[wgdanson]

23 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I bought my desktop from JIB about five years ago and it is still going strong, I bought it on the advice of posters on this forum. When I decide what AIO I want, I will give the desktop to the wife.

So the wife's room has enough room for the big PC, but yours has not? Change rooms. Buy the wife a tablet.

 

Tried to message you offering my help, but you cannot receive them. IM me please.

Edited December 5, 2018 by wgdanson