6 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

The slogans on buses were all vote leave propaganda, to call it the will of the people is ridiculous based on the circumstances surrounding the referendum. Much more information has emerged subsequently, and you might just find the number of people who have spoken is significantly less than you thought. A single second vote would make it clear, no best of three required. 

No propaganda from the remain side then.

 

 

2 hours ago, vogie said:

No propaganda from the remain side then.

 

 

I wasn't aware that brexit had already occurred? I feel like a 2nd Rip Van Winkle.

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Very clearly ‘the will of the people’ was manipulated by lies and to no small extent illegal overspending by the ‘Leave campaign’.

And the National Crime Agency is looking into the origins as it seems this money is illegitimate and suspected as Russian.

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

Another one who claims the lies were emitted from one side. 

Please show me, where exactly did I wrote one side? Or do you want to suggest that a referendum that is based on even more lies is more democratic than one based on half the lies? 

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

Another one who claims the lies were emitted from one side. 

Please show me, where exactly did I wrote one side? Or do you want to suggest that a referendum that is based on even more lies is more democratic than one based on half the lies? 

23 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Good to see Brexiteers still don’t have more to offer than conspiracy theories and lies.  

Try this one. You don't mention the other side doing the same thing. Do you?

Edited December 7, 20187 yr by nauseus

20 hours ago, vogie said:

No propaganda from the remain side then.

 

 

Clearly a 3rd rate air-bush job, and you do not have to have much gray matter to work out it was the work of brexiteers.

9 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Clearly a 3rd rate air-bush job, and you do not have to have much gray matter to work out it was the work of brexiteers.

Nothing gets past you eh. ????????????????

On 12/6/2018 at 4:16 PM, oilinki said:

If this goes through, then A50 needs to be rewritten. It's madness that a leaving country can cause 2 years of havoc and then simply say 'Sorry, but not sorry. We were just kidding'. 

 

 

They'll get a billion euro bill anyway if they wanna stay.

19 hours ago, nauseus said:

Try this one. You don't mention the other side doing the same thing. Do you?

The lies and false promises from the Brexit-side were already enough to declare this referendum void. If there was even more manipulations, as you seem to suggest, that would just make it worse. 

19 hours ago, nauseus said:

Try this one. You don't mention the other side doing the same thing. Do you?

The lies and false promises from the Brexit-side were already enough to declare this referendum void. If there was even more manipulations, as you seem to suggest, that would just make it worse. 

32 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

The lies and false promises from the Brexit-side were already enough to declare this referendum void. If there was even more manipulations, as you seem to suggest, that would just make it worse. 

Yes, it was far worse from the remain side.

19 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yes, it was far worse from the remain side.

To be honest, I don’t care which side lied more. It just shows that this referendum is worth nothing and should be declared void. It is as  “democratic” as a Kim Jong Un is democratically elected.

19 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yes, it was far worse from the remain side.

To be honest, I don’t care which side lied more. It just shows that this referendum is worth nothing and should be declared void. It is as  “democratic” as a Kim Jong Un is democratically elected.

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

To be honest, I don’t care which side lied more. It just shows that this referendum is worth nothing and should be declared void. It is as  “democratic” as a Kim Jong Un is democratically elected.

Why do you want the British referendum to be declared void, how will this help your agenda.

On 12/6/2018 at 10:19 PM, StreetCowboy said:

We can't rely on the UK government to enforce the will of the people, so regardless of whether parliament declines to enforce our withdrawal, the EU must force us out, regardless of what parliament says.  It is the will of the people.  It cannot be denied.  T

 

here was a clear majority of leaving, and until we have left, there can be no reconsideration or reflection.

 

Once we have left, then will be the time for reflection and regret, for recounting.  We can apply to rejoin, and I am sure that the EU will happily welcome us back with all the opt-outs that we enjoyed before. 

wishing is good, keep it up..... but EU will not welcome UK back, nobody forced them to leave, as you said ""It is the will of the people"" even if they were mislead on the vote... UK was really never part of the EU, it's an island not land connected to mainland EU that explains the lack of connection to other countries...

14 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

To be honest, I don’t care which side lied more. It just shows that this referendum is worth nothing and should be declared void. It is as  “democratic” as a Kim Jong Un is democratically elected.

I discounted any obviously erroneous information from both sides. But to say now that this referendum was undemocratic and worth nothing is obviously a minority view, typically shared by undemocratic remainers. 

On 12/6/2018 at 11:18 PM, nauseus said:

Well thanks for your kind comments. A couple of points that may or may not surprise you: first, the EU is not a country / second, you are assuming that "lots" of my countrymen have changed their minds / third, people like me don't see the necessity for this EU, that wants to centralize, control and eventually erase and roll European nations into a single European state / fourth, people like me do see the value of a European association of countries that can simply trade together easily (as the common market was sold to be in the 70's) / fifth, after we leave, we will eventually be happier and certainly won't miss miserable ignorant Europhiles like you! 

 

 

There's an old saying... grass looks greener on the other side.... my wife thought the same before the divorce, once she got there the grass was very dark color

On 12/7/2018 at 7:28 AM, lamyai3 said:

The slogans on buses were all vote leave propaganda, to call it the will of the people is ridiculous based on the circumstances surrounding the referendum. Much more information has emerged subsequently, and you might just find the number of people who have spoken is significantly less than you thought. A single second vote would make it clear, no best of three required. 

it was the will of the ""blondie"" guy not the people

On 12/7/2018 at 8:59 AM, leither69 said:

What have you got to offer!!  Democracy voted to leave, end off.  A "u turn" will discredit the British democratic system.  The UK has been savaged by financial speculators and bad governance since the vote was to leave. A federal Europe with its Own armies and unelected officials sealed it for me.  We are losing our sovereignty if we remain.

 

"""""A "u turn" will discredit the British democratic system.""" you still believe the British democracy system has some credit left..... u kidding right????

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

There's an old saying... grass looks greener on the other side.... my wife thought the same before the divorce, once she got there the grass was very dark color

She probably just needed different fertilizer.

On 12/7/2018 at 12:56 PM, StreetCowboy said:

Benefits are for losers. 

 

Real men relish the hardship of going it alone, forging our own unique way into the wilderness with no-one to look over us except Queen Victoria on some old coins that we carry, and no-one to hold us back.  Armed with nothing but austerity and our boundless enthusiasm, over-arching arrogance and limited wits.

 

What could possibly go wrong?

 

SC

What could possibly go wrong? .... wait and see

12 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

What could possibly go wrong? .... wait and see

Streetcowboy is a staunch remainer, but his sarcasm is so good, even he doesn't know if he's kidding or not. ????

Edited December 8, 20187 yr by vogie

31 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I discounted any obviously erroneous information from both sides. But to say now that this referendum was undemocratic and worth nothing is obviously a minority view, typically shared by undemocratic remainers. 

You can call massive lies and manipulation “democratic” if you want to. 

12 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You can call massive lies and manipulation “democratic” if you want to. 

Why not. Not much different than any GE campaign. What can we do about it except ignore all the bull ???? and vote with our own hearts and minds? ???? + ???? = ????

Edited December 8, 20187 yr by nauseus

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

wishing is good, keep it up..... but EU will not welcome UK back, nobody forced them to leave, as you said ""It is the will of the people"" even if they were mislead on the vote... UK was really never part of the EU, it's an island not land connected to mainland EU that explains the lack of connection to other countries...

Right. The main connection was the cash injection.

7 hours ago, Mavideol said:

wishing is good, keep it up..... but EU will not welcome UK back, nobody forced them to leave, as you said ""It is the will of the people"" even if they were mislead on the vote... UK was really never part of the EU, it's an island not land connected to mainland EU that explains the lack of connection to other countries...

So what about the increasing number of Europeans, who are also anti E.u.