andux Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, stud858 said: And, so the government who was fairly elected got to fire some people. So what. What happened in subsequent elections? Were further elections kept open to the public. Is the list of voting still available to the public? Can I view them? I think you'll find it was not as I stated it should be, but I'm open to accept it that open elections happened if I'm shown the proof. In this case, the easily accessible election voting list, or as I like to refer to it, the EAEVL It was not an election, but a referendum. There was a corrupt government already in place, rigging all elections, censoring the media and changing the constitution constantly in order to remain in power (sounds familiar?). That's why someone suggested a referendum asking the government to go away using ID cards, in order to prove that most people wanted the people in power out. But the corrupt government didn't go away, they just got a huge list of those against them. That party is still in power by the way, up to this day. They've been in power since 1999. You may read more about that list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tascón_List. I don't believe in representative democracy anyways, but if you want a representative democracy, voting needs to be anonymous, and monitored by neutral international agencies, in order to protect the people. Also, if you make a website where people vote, keep in mind that someone has to control that website. How will you, a simple citizen, know that all people voting are actually people and not fake logins? Surely the government in place can generate fake ids and create people to vote for them, they do that when they create identities for spies, for example. It's even easier to do when all you need is a number and a name. Those managing the system can also alter the votes of the people. Maybe you vote for someone but the system shows it as if you had voted for someone else. Well what do you know, maybe you clicked the wrong button? What about those going to polling stations to vote because they can't even use a computer? Let's make a list of them, since they won't even be able to check what they voted. A website is not the way to go, but this could work by using a decentralized, trustlessness system, similar to how cryptocurrency works, with people logging in with a fingerprint and retina scan instead of an id number. That way you may be able to keep it both transparent and anonymous at the same time, and avoid votes from fake or dead people. Edited December 12, 2018 by andux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I'm confused, only a few days ago it was announced results wouldn't be available until the end of April.Yes and all the idiot bashers had a field day. Now egg on face April will be when it's made official. The break is for checks and balances. It's always been that way in every election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andux Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 hours ago, stud858 said: And, so the government who was fairly elected got to fire some people. So what. What happened in subsequent elections? Were further elections kept open to the public. Is the list of voting still available to the public? Can I view them? I think you'll find it was not as I stated it should be, but I'm open to accept it that open elections happened if I'm shown the proof. In this case, the easily accessible election voting list, or as I like to refer to it, the EAEVL stud, just an update to my previous post. I found more information about that list. You may read about that here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tascón_List It seems that at some point the list was online, so you may be able to find it if you Google enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 21 hours ago, billd766 said: Is she using both hands? yes all 12 fingers???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 It's a foregone conclusion then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Easy to do when you already know the results before the polls open. The real question is how much lipstick will they put on the pig and how many Thais won't recognize the pig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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