No Income affidavit - balance to top up to 65k is from work

[DJ54]

NoIncome Affidavit - Just realized for those whose on Retirement extension......

 

 

Current extension to stay was issued July 3 2018 and will need to renew July 3 2019 Correct?  See picture 

 

What option is best for me based on information given? #1 if appointments are available late December. 

 

1-Go to US Embassy Bangkok an get Income Affidavit and hope there accepted and renew end of June. Income work

outside of a thailand not below 210,000 baht a month but it’s currently deposited in USA bank. 

2-Income is from USA SSN which in my case almost meets the monthly requirement of 65k baht. Money will need to be added to reach requirement. What’s going to happen when you prove it and it’s for work not in Thailand but work?

Fortunateley I won’t be fully retired in mid to late 2019.

3- Currently work on projects outside of Thailand. On Retirement extension. When time comes to renew and you show money deposited into bank monthly is work.. Will you be questioned about working ? On bank statement where it came from. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2018 by DJ54
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[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, DJ54 said:

1-Go to US Embassy Bangkok an get Income Affidavit and hope there accepted and renew end of June. Income work

outside of a thailand not below 210,000 baht a month but it’s currently deposited in USA bank. 

You need to do an appointment now for December 20th to get the affidavit. That is the only day remaining that has appointments available (212 this morning) before the 1st of January when the stop doing them. See: https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/acsappointment/

You can do the extension up to 30 days early so if you got a affidavit on the 20th it would be valid until June 20th.

2. There is no rule that you cannot combine incomes. Nothing wrong with using income earned from working outside the country. Show your total income on the income affidavit.

3. You will not be asked where your income is coming from.

 

 

 

[JackThompson]

For your next extension, your embassy-letter should be accepted for 6-mo after issuance.  If they ask to see more evidence, you could show foreign xfers into your Thai bank account of 65K Baht or greater, your foreign-account statement demonstrating withdrawals which are the source of the deposits on the Thai bank statement, an SS-benefit letter, and bank-statement deposits of SS-payments. 

 

No one can guarantee what will be accepted as "sufficient" proof at a local-office, by a particular IO, or even that a they will still accept embassy-letters at that time - but is what I would try, in your case.  With all that, you would certainly have more than enough to clear the hurdles, if any degree of honesty is in play at your office.

[DJ54]

9 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You need to do an appointment now for December 20th

Ubonjoe as I was posting I got on line a booked an appointment for

Dec. 20...  You may not remember the last extension renewal you gave me a plan and it work right on the day it needed to be

 

Thanks,

Dj

[Lacessit]

I don't understand. If the OP is earning 210,000 baht/month, and spending 70,000 baht per month in Thailand, he should be able to save the 800,000 baht for the alternative route to a retirement visa in six months. Why can't the OP save that much before next July?

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Why can't the OP save that much before next July?

Why should he? He has more than enough provable income.

[Chongalulu]

15 hours ago, DJ54 said:

Ubonjoe as I was posting I got on line a booked an appointment for

Dec. 20...  You may not remember the last extension renewal you gave me a plan and it work right on the day it needed to be

 

Thanks,

Dj

A tip for you and any others in your position (based on my own experience),once you’ve read Ubonjoe's advice you really don’t need to read any further comments....including this one... ???? 

[OJAS]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I don't understand. If the OP is earning 210,000 baht/month, and spending 70,000 baht per month in Thailand, he should be able to save the 800,000 baht for the alternative route to a retirement visa in six months. Why can't the OP save that much before next July?

He would actually need to save 800,000 THB before next April in order to meet the 3-month seasoning requirement. On the basis of 70,000 THB monthly spend he would fall short by 100,000 THB.

 

And were he to apply for his new retirement extension 30 days before his existing permission to stay expires, the 800,000 THB would need to be in his Thai bank account by next March - thus increasing the shortfall to 170,000 THB.

Edited December 16, 2018 by OJAS

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Why should he? He has more than enough provable income.

Because as I see it, the proving process for the income route is becoming fraught with difficulty since embassies and consulates have abandoned statutory declarations and income letters.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, OJAS said:

He would actually need to save 800,000 THB before next April in order to meet the 3-month seasoning requirement. On the basis of 70,000 THB monthly spend he would fall short by 100,000 THB.

 

And were he to apply for his new retirement extension 30 days before his existing permission to stay expires, the 800,000 THB would need to be in his Thai bank account by next March - thus increasing the shortfall to 170,000 THB.

You're right. Maybe he should have started saving earlier. Or reduce his expenditure to to meet the seasoning target.

[onera1961]

33 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

since embassies and consulates have abandoned statutory declarations and income letters.

Not all embassies. Four embassies

[jpinx]

28 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

Not all embassies. Four embassies

I believe we're waiting for the New Year deadline to discover Immigration's next move on what will constitute "proof of income".  Some embassies have elected to stop issuing them, but no alternative proof has yet been recommended as being acceptable to Immigration.

 

[gk10002000]

10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I don't understand. If the OP is earning 210,000 baht/month, and spending 70,000 baht per month in Thailand, he should be able to save the 800,000 baht for the alternative route to a retirement visa in six months. Why can't the OP save that much before next July?

I suspect the money values are incomplete.  The OP has no expenses outside of Thailand back in the USA?  And why should he have to save it?  If one saves money each month, investing it in some decent interest or dividend returning investment is a better thing and a safer thing than locking it up in a Thai account

[Lacessit]

12 hours ago, onera1961 said:

Not all embassies. Four embassies

At a rough guess, 90% of the retirees here.