Popular Post rooster59 Posted December 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2018 Australia strips citizenship from alleged Islamic State recruiter By Alison Bevege SYDNEY (Reuters) - The Australian government has stripped citizenship from a man it believes is a top recruiter for Islamic State, Australia's home affairs minister said on Saturday. Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Melbourne-born Neil Prakash had been central to Islamic State's efforts in the Middle East, was "a very dangerous individual" and had his citizenship stripped. "If given the opportunity Mr Prakash would harm or kill Australians and our country is a safer place for him having lost his Australian citizenship," Dutton said in a televised news conference. Prakash has been in Turkey on trial for terrorism-related activities since being caught there in October 2016 after leaving Islamic State-controlled territory. He is wanted in Australia over terrorism-related activities including an alleged plot to behead a police officer. Under Australia's citizenship laws, a dual national can lose their Australian citizenship if they act contrary to their allegiance to Australia by choosing to be involved in terrorism. Islamic State was declared a terrorist organisation in May 2016 for this purpose, the Home Affairs Office said in a statement, and Prakash is the 12th person to be stripped of citizenship so far. Dutton said the law prevents the government from rendering somebody stateless so they must have Australian citizenship and citizenship of another country. Prakash, whose mother was Cambodian and father was Fijian, held both Australian and Fijian citizenship through his father. Dutton said Australia's internal spy agency the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) had thwarted 14 attempted attacks including a plan to smuggle explosives onto an A380 flight to the Middle East. "The threat is very real," he said. "The priority for us is to make sure that people like Neil Prakash don’t come back to Australia. We don’t want them here." Prakash has been notified of the decision by letter, and the Fijian government has also been notified, according to a source close to the Australian government. Prakash has been linked to several Australia-based attack plans and has appeared in Islamic State videos and magazines. Australia says he actively recruited Australian men, women and children and encouraged acts of militancy. Australia has been pressing Turkey to extradite Prakash since he was first detained, but the request was rejected in July. It will remain in place until the conclusion of his case and any custodial sentence, The Australian newspaper reported. Canberra cancelled Prakash's passport in 2014 and announced financial sanctions in 2015, which cover anyone giving him financial assistance, with punishment of up to 10 years in jail. -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-12-29 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted December 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2018 He's no "alleged" here, vey safe to say that he's a murderer, a killer and an abomination of a human being that walk the earth and should be shot on sight.. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phantomfiddler Posted December 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2018 Good for Australia, other civilized countries should act similarly ! 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FitnessHealthTravel Posted December 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2018 Oi, Oi, Oi. Australia now has to abolish the insanity that it 'political correctness', good start here! 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 hours ago, ezzra said: He's no "alleged" here, vey safe to say that he's a murderer, a killer and an abomination of a human being that walk the earth and should be shot on sight.. Id rather see him set on fire 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racket Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Australia for the win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Sounds like Mr Prakash did his crimes about 200 years too late. Well done Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 The more I read the stuff here, the more I like Australia. I guess thats why the Brits take the piss on them...jealousy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Nyezhov said: The more I read the stuff here, the more I like Australia. Particularly the fact that the state can punish someone without benefit of a trial. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Particularly the fact that the state can punish someone without benefit of a trial. Why waste money on a trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, Ks45672 said: Why waste money on a trial? An argument in favor of lynching? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, bristolboy said: An argument in favor of lynching? In his case, why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronrat Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 He won't like Fiji either. Most of the inmates in Suva prison are Fijians and they hate the Indians. If he ever ends up in there they punch <deleted> out of him I guess he is stuck in the Middle East until someone blows him up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 The more I read the stuff here, the more I like Australia. I guess thats why the Brits take the piss on them...jealousy!In the UK,the pathetic Gov let’s terrorists back in and spends £100’s millions monitoring them! All to do with “rights “ bull****Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ks45672 said: In his case, why not? That I have to point out to you the obvious reason why not makes it pointless to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, bristolboy said: Particularly the fact that the state can punish someone without benefit of a trial. They're not punishing him, it's not as if he was caught speeding or parking illegally or throwing rubbish on the ground...all of which are punished without a trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat ji Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 There are quite a few ISIS supporters in Australia. Musa Cerantonio...Melbourne, Australia. Explicit, and prolific propagandist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 5 hours ago, bristolboy said: Particularly the fact that the state can punish someone without benefit of a trial. I’m sure they will happily put him on trial.... but unfortunately, they can’t get their hands on him to actually do it. in the meantime, Australia should not have to suffer him as a citizen, or more especially, have him represent the nation, as a citizen, when they have a choice, by revoking his duel citizenry. if, however, this action is contrary to the laws of the land, (which I doubt), then it should be reversed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Nyezhov said: The more I read the stuff here, the more I like Australia. I guess thats why the Brits take the piss on them...jealousy! Which one? I want his name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad mick Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 8 hours ago, markaoffy said: In the UK,the pathetic Gov let’s terrorists back in and spends £100’s millions monitoring them! All to do with “rights “ bull**** Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Australia does the same lets them back in after they say sorry , we are flooded with these low lifes , hes juz 1 of 1000s who should be kicked out there religoius clerics preach dayly hatred against countries that accepted them fn low lifes ! at least 1 its a start..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mad mick said: Australia does the same lets them back in after they say sorry Examples? Five Australians already stripped of dual citizenship due to involvement with ISIS, so the OP story is not first person to be stripped of citizenship for terrorism activities. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-09/islamic-state-terrorists-lose-australian-citizenship/10092678 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Peter Dutton Rules ! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Maybe they should be more careful who they grant citizenship to in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, bristolboy said: Particularly the fact that the state can punish someone without benefit of a trial. Indeed, and that is the greater issue. While the keyboard warriors are cheering this one - and to be honest I don’t really blame them in this case -the fact is about 40 to 50% of Australians are now second class citizens under this law. An Australian with no other citizenship could go and shoot up half of Port Arthur in an actual act of terrorism and not have his or her citizenship revoked. About half of all Australians have a parent or grand parent born overseas and that leaves Australia with a whole lot of dual citizens whether they like it or not. Now i know the keyboard warriors and other assorted knuckle draggers are probably thinking that it’s just all the muzzies who are dual citizens, but as the parliamentary dual citizenship debacle showed us most Aussies are probably unwitting Brits, Irish, Kiwis, Italians and Greeks. Again the chest thumpers will say well they have nothing to worry about, but they would be wrong. It was Dutton himself, you know the bloke who tried to be PM but couldn’t even count to 42 (the number of MPs needed to vote for him to become PM), who proposed the first version of the citizenship stripping law which stated that any damage to federal property would constitute grounds for stripping away someone’s Australian citizenship. It wasn’t until people smarter than him (it’s not hard) told him that accidentally backing into and knocking over an Australia Post mail box would constitute ‘damage to federal property’ that he made the rules tighter. But it gives you an insight into his disregard for due process and rule of law - something that most people I would have thought is important. i mean, isn’t that what seperate ‘us’ from ‘them’? Edited December 30, 2018 by samran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, seahorse said: Maybe they should be more careful who they grant citizenship to in the first place. The guy was born and raised n Australia as a buddhist. Fijian father, Cambodian mother. Converted to Islam after a visit to Cambodia and observed what he thought was a corruption of Buddhism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 illegible post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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